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Resisting Climate Hysteria


plod, it is a natural Phenomenon and will right it's self in time.......So take a Panadol, sit back and relax.

I may not live long enough to see the change but I am sure you will bare witness to it all in time.
 
The picture is emerging, note the people in the middle east struggling to get a few drops of water on main stream TV news last night.

 
So what is happening to the natural world as a result of global warming to date ?

Unless one is in complete and total denial of reality we accept the fact that the world is now an average of 1 degree C warmer than say 50 years ago. What are the consequences on the ecosystem we all depend on to survive ?

 

How much warmer was it 1000 years ago?
 

The 2016 line on that chart ought to ring some serious alarm bells no matter what the subject or context. Data going back to 1978 shows that for November the range has been 20 - 23 but in 2016 it's 17. That's a very substantial change and would raise some alarm bells for anyone familiar with looking at data on any subject simply due to the magnitude and suddenness of the change.

First question would be is the data accurate? Has this been verified? Sudden changes certainly can be due to inaccurate measurement (in any context).

If the data is confirmed as accurate then it's a real concern certainly simply due to the speed and magnitude of the change unless there's a known explanation which is not likely to recur each year into the future.

On other matters relating to the environment:

http://www.themercury.com.au/news/o...y/news-story/15c347b077a12c23cc5eeccb644da46f
 
How much warmer was it 1000 years ago?

There were areas warmer 1000 years ago and up to 3c warmer 10,000 years ago.

But as once a fireball the earth is supposed to be cooling down but abruptly it is not and the sudden rate of increase is quite alarming.

Anyway, "some people you just caaaant reach"

One Nation accuses NASA of manipulating climate science data, while literally choosing to view part of the Great Barrier Reef which is more than 1000km from where the most severe coral bleaching crisis on record has had its greatest impact.
 
Typically another site one cannot reach. How about posting the main bit of it up.

You should have been able to connect to the link...I had no trouble...I am not a subscriber.

Just go to google and type in " WHAT WAS THE TEMPERATURE IN ARCTIC AND GREENLAND 1000 YEARS AGO"
 
Excellent paper you noted Noco. Makes it totally clear just how global warming is affecting the climate in the Arctic and the surrounding areas. Thanks.

And just to highlight what is happening now check out the following analysis. Essentially runaway climate change as a result of numerous feedback loops is the next step. The video is a great summary.


https://www.theguardian.com/environ...er-uncontrollable-climate-change-global-level
 

Ah yes....the good old commo paper the Guardian.....A natural pro alarmist....

There are other links on google that may give you a different version.

I live 400 feet above sea level but I am still going to build a Noah's Ark just in case the Guardian is right.
 

Noco's Ark. No greens and reds allowed.

btw, what if the "climate alarmists" are right and no ark's around? Opps?
 

Your delusional Noco. There are other links that offer a different version of reality. They also are either delusional or lie through their teeth.

The Guardian simply reports what the scientists are saying and the evidence is demonstrating.

I remember around 2006 many Climate Change scientists voiced their concern about the feedback loops involved with the melting of the Arctic ice caps. They pointed out that as ice was replaced by Tundra, sea ice replaced by open water and the frozen Arctic thawed out the feedback loops would be devastating.

It was simple science Noco. Nothing more extraordinary than recognising that a forest fire starts small and then builds momentum as it gets bigger and bigger until it becomes unstoppable - or just burns everything in it's path

And that's where we now are with the melting of the Arctic ice cap.

https://www.climatecommunication.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/arctic_climate.pdf

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/arctic-sea-ice-what-why-and-what-next/



Figure 12 - Arctic sea ice has receded dramatically faster than the mean of IPCC models projected, reaching levels not expected until 2065. Positive feedback loops such as those that have accelerated sea ice loss might accelerate the loss of permafrost and the release of additional CO2 and methane from the Arctic.

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By the way that Scientific American story was written in 2012. This years is way off their charts.
 

So we can only follow your right wing fascist news hey.

The Guardian prints facts with proper notation. Maybe Zero Hedge is a bit out of it but it does help balance the overall scales.
 
Noco's Ark. No greens and reds allowed.

btw, what if the "climate alarmists" are right and no ark's around? Opps?

Luu, I am so old in the tooth, I don't think I need to worry and don't reckon Prince George will either.
 
So we can only follow your right wing fascist news hey.

The Guardian prints facts with proper notation. Maybe Zero Hedge is a bit out of it but it does help balance the overall scales.

I a line the Guardian with the ABC.....Both are very biased towards the Greens and the left.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion including you and I and we should both respect that.without getting personal.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion including you and I and we should both respect that.without getting personal. Noco

Certainly everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. but not to their own facts. Daniel Moynihan

On the other hand perhaps we could put it another way.

"Your not entitled to your opinion.You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."
 
Luu, I am so old in the tooth, I don't think I need to worry and don't reckon Prince George will either.

I've seen the movie 2012 and you're right that Prince George and his pet dogs wouldn't have much to worry about, ever.

Though people of your advanced age in countries without much socialist medical care or public housing would have a tough time when the temperature goes a few celcius either way. This is happening right now, not in some dystopian future the nerds and greens are trying to scare us about.
 
I have just been chatting to my son in Antarctica in the last hour and there are two groups of scientists at Casey Station....All up there are 75 personal manning the station.

One group is studying the sea ice, while the other is studying the Glaciers.

I don't have a link and probably should not post this without a link so you will have to take my word for it, but they are saying the burning of fossils fuels do have a minor influence but the Sun also plays a major part....Non of them can really say what it will be like in 50 or 100 years from now but they are saying there could be some sea level rises, but once again to what extent no one really knows.

There has been comment down there that Al Gore has exaggerated Global Warming 10 fold just to make money on emissions trading schemes.

I trust the moderators will accept my post without a link.
 
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