I am not a scientist, one cannot absorb the huge amount of science information. Like you I am an ordinary human being who has taken an interest in the land and the climate since a child.
I go by what I see and read in the everyday news and as an old tree huger speak to farmers in this Bendigo region.
No one can stop the ise melt, particularly now that the methane from underneath is escaping. One would hope that mankind can some how collectively develop a way to slow it down and one day stop it. But procrastinating on who's right and wrong is not going to get us anywhere.
From memory, unfortunately I lent the book "The Sixth Extinctiion" it was a huge ice sheet that blocked the cold air flow from the polar region that in fact warmed/sheltered Greenland at that time.
NASA director debunks Malcolm Roberts' theory on climate data manipulation in polite letter
Updated Thu at 8:42am
From left to right: Malcolm Roberts and Gavin Schmidt
PHOTO: One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts (L) and NASA's Gavin Schmidt (R). (ABC/Twitter)
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In a politely worded letter, the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) has addressed One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts' concerns that the organisation's data on climate change has been manipulated.
In a rare occurrence, director Gavin Schmidt personally wrote a letter in response to Senator Roberts' request for information about the NASA GISTEMP analysis of global surface temperature history.
The GISS Surface Temperature Analysis (GISTEMP) is an estimate of global surface temperature change.
In the letter obtained by Fairfax Media and circulated widely on social media, the NASA scientist directed Senator Roberts to a number of links on the NASA website that published the entirety of NASA's raw data and the code they use to analyse that data.
"However, you appear to hold a number of misconceptions which I am happy to clarify at this time," the letter went on.
The first "misconception" noted by Mr Schmidt related to a graph that Senator Roberts had included in his request.
The graph, as Mr Schmidt pointed out, originated from the Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN), a project run by the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
"Perhaps you might not be aware, but NOAA is a different US Govt. agency than NASA, and questions relating to their activities or products might be more usefully addressed to them," Mr Schmidt said.
'Nowhere on earth safe' from climate change as survival challenge grows
Peter Hannam
As if humans weren't making it hard enough for the world's creatures great and small.
Evidence continues to mount that global warming is having an impact on ecosystems across the planet in a myriad of ways, altering both individual species and ecological communities.
Thirty years of Arctic ice decay
Incredible animated video released by NASA shows the drastic change of the Arctic ice shelves over thirty years.
"There's really nowhere on earth where the natural systems are not being affected by climate change," Lesley Hughes, a professor of biology at Macquarie University, said.
"Climate change is simply an additional stress on already stressed ecosystems," Professor Hughes said, listing habitat loss, pollution and over-exploitation among the existing challenges.
A recent paper in Science surveyed research on 94 core ecological processes and found 82 per cent were already revealing climate change impacts as temperatures warmed.
James Watson, a conservation biologist at the University of Queensland and one of the paper's authors, said people often fixated on polar bears, penguins or another emblematic species.
"They think, 'that's miles away from me; it's a pity but it doesn't affect me'," Professor Watson said. "It's everything that's affected."
Here are six key areas of change:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/env...survival-challenge-grows-20161123-gsvgcj.html
So what is happening to the natural world as a result of global warming to date ?
Unless one is in complete and total denial of reality we accept the fact that the world is now an average of 1 degree C warmer than say 50 years ago. What are the consequences on the ecosystem we all depend on to survive ?
Actually Noco if you follow the graph you will see that it represents the last 40 years of measurements of minimum and maximum sea ice expanses in the Arctic. The overall trend for the last 40 years shows a substantial reduction in sea ice levels. The red line for 2016 is just an horrific off the chart indication of how the loss of sea ice is accelerating as a result of runaway global warming.
How much warmer was it 1000 years ago?
One Nation accuses NASA of manipulating climate science data, while literally choosing to view part of the Great Barrier Reef which is more than 1000km from where the most severe coral bleaching crisis on record has had its greatest impact.
There were areas warmer 1000 years ago and up to 3c warmer 10,000 years ago.
But as once a fireball the earth is supposed to be cooling down but abruptly it is not and the sudden rate of increase is quite alarming.
Anyway, "some people you just caaaant reach"
Perhaps you could go back just 600 years ago.....Some interesting facts for all to read.
https://www.nersc.no/sites/www.nersc.no/files/The role of the Barents_ROG.pdf
Typically another site one cannot reach. How about posting the main bit of it up.
Arctic ice melt could trigger uncontrollable climate change at global level
Scientists warn increasingly rapid melting could trigger polar ‘tipping points’ with catastrophic consequences felt as far away as the Indian Ocean
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Fiona Harvey
Friday 25 November 2016 05.01 GMT
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Arctic scientists have warned that the increasingly rapid melting of the ice cap risks triggering 19 “tipping points” in the region that could have catastrophic consequences around the globe.
The Arctic Resilience Report found that the effects of Arctic warming could be felt as far away as the Indian Ocean, in a stark warning that changes in the region could cause uncontrollable climate change at a global level.
Temperatures in the Arctic are currently about 20C above what would be expected for the time of year, which scientists describe as “off the charts”. Sea ice is at the lowest extent ever recorded for the time of year.
“The warning signals are getting louder,” said Marcus Carson of the Stockholm Environment Institute and one of the lead authors of the report. “[These developments] also make the potential for triggering [tipping points] and feedback loops much larger.”
Excellent paper you noted Noco. Makes it totally clear just how global warming is affecting the climate in the Arctic and the surrounding areas. Thanks.
And just to highlight what is happening now check out the following analysis. Essentially runaway climate change as a result of numerous feedback loops is the next step. The video is a great summary.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...er-uncontrollable-climate-change-global-level
Ah yes....the good old commo paper the Guardian.....A natural pro alarmist....
There are other links on google that may give you a different version.
I live 400 feet above sea level but I am still going to build a Noah's Ark just in case the Guardian is right.
Ah yes....the good old commo paper the Guardian.....A natural pro alarmist....
There are other links on google that may give you a different version.
I live 400 feet above sea level but I am still going to build a Noah's Ark just in case the Guardian is right.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/arctic-sea-ice-what-why-and-what-next/Arctic Sea Ice: What, Why, and What Next
By Ramez Naam on September 21, 2012
On September 19th, NSIDC, the National Snow and Ice Data Center, announced that Arctic sea ice has shrunk as far as it will shrink this summer, and that the ice is beginning to reform, expanding the floating ice cap that covers the North Pole and the seas around it. The Arctic Sea Ice extent this September was far smaller than the previous record set in 2007. At 3.4 million square kilometers of ice coverage, this year’s Arctic minimum was 800,000 square kilometers smaller than the 2007 record. That difference between the previous record and this year’s is larger than the entire state of Texas. An ice-free summer in the Arctic, once projected to be more than a century away, now looks possible decades from now. Some say that it looks likely in just the next few years.
What’s happening in the Arctic? Why is it happening? And does it matter for the bulk of us who live thousands of miles away from it?
Ah yes....the good old commo paper the Guardian.....A natural pro alarmist....
There are other links on google that may give you a different version.
I live 400 feet above sea level but I am still going to build a Noah's Ark just in case the Guardian is right.
Noco's Ark. No greens and reds allowed.
btw, what if the "climate alarmists" are right and no ark's around? Opps?
So we can only follow your right wing fascist news hey.
The Guardian prints facts with proper notation. Maybe Zero Hedge is a bit out of it but it does help balance the overall scales.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion including you and I and we should both respect that.without getting personal. Noco
Luu, I am so old in the tooth, I don't think I need to worry and don't reckon Prince George will either.
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