Okay have we had our little panic attack now ladies?
"Interesting" extrapolation of data here, but could be a blow off top too.
"Interesting" extrapolation of data here, but could be a blow off top too. Wayne
If all else fails attack the opposers with dung "ladies", weak a..ho.e
And if it IS NOT a blow off top.?
And recordings this northern winter of zero degrees in the arctic when it should be 40 to 50 below. I know where the blow off is.
You have missed your calling Plod. You could have been a politician and been offended by trifles and demanding apologies for a living, Wayne
I think you make a far better pollie Wayne. Lovely work just dismissing the whole issue and pretending any problem is the fantasy of some overwrought nanny who just isn't part of the real world...
Keep up the self delusion Wayne. Seriously; I don't think you could handle the reality.
Oh the tedium of yet another straw man argument.
Come on ladies lets try a little sobriety, lets not scare the kiddies.
James Lovelock: 'enjoy life while you can: in 20 years global warming will hit the fan'
The climate science maverick believes catastrophe is inevitable, carbon offsetting is a joke and ethical living a scam. So what would he do? By Decca Aitkenhead
James Lovelock
Saturday 1 March 2008 21.35 AEDT
In 1965 executives at Shell wanted to know what the world would look like in the year 2000. They consulted a range of experts, who speculated about fusion-powered hovercrafts and "all sorts of fanciful technological stuff". When the oil company asked the scientist James Lovelock, he predicted that the main problem in 2000 would be the environment. "It will be worsening then to such an extent that it will seriously affect their business," he said.
"And of course," Lovelock says, with a smile 43 years later, "that's almost exactly what's happened."
Lovelock has been dispensing predictions from his one-man laboratory in an old mill in Cornwall since the mid-1960s, the consistent accuracy of which have earned him a reputation as one of Britain's most respected - if maverick - independent scientists. Working alone since the age of 40, he invented a device that detected CFCs, which helped detect the growing hole in the ozone layer, and introduced the Gaia hypothesis, a revolutionary theory that the Earth is a self-regulating super-organism. Initially ridiculed by many scientists as new age nonsense, today that theory forms the basis of almost all climate science.
Welcome to the climate emergency: you’re about 20 years late
February 2016 saw global warming records tumble with new data suggesting more Australians think humans are the cause
Graham Readfearn
Friday 18 March 2016 07.00 AEDT
Last modified on Friday 18 March 2016 09.14 AEDT
Everywhere you look right now, the Earth’s climate system seems to be breaking records.
To choose the most inappropriate metaphor possible, February 2016 would have been enough to bring a lot of climate watchers out in a cold sweat.
Figures from Nasa using thermometers and ocean temperature readings showed February was the hottest month on record, by quite a margin.
According to satellite data, the amount of Arctic sea ice also hit an all-time low for this time of year since measurements began in 1979.
Scientists also use satellite data to calculate air temperatures. Climate science contrarians and denialists like these readings because they have not shown as much warming as the more reliable readings on the surface.
But February also set a new record for global temperatures from satellites. As Joe Romm at Climate Progress noted, “climate science deniers need a new meme”.
These heat records have been variously described as “terrifying”, “jawdropping” and “shocking”.
One climate scientist in particular, Professor Stefan Rahmstorf, appeared to capture the mood with a quote repeated in stories around the world, including here on the Guardian.
“We are in a kind of climate emergency now,” said Rahmstorf, of Germany’s Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.
But here’s the rub.
Global warming is proceeding pretty much exactly as predicted
Professor Stefan Rahmstorf
To climate scientists like Rahmstorf, the temperature records being broken right now are not a surprise and, at least according to Rahmstorf, they shouldn’t be seen as an entry point to some terrifying new era (at least not as terrifying as things already are).
“The media’s view is too short-term,” he told me. “As scientists we want to keep an overview of all the data and the knowledge of how the whole system works.”
What we are seeing is a continuous process of global warming that is superimposed on to the natural variability.
Just like a few cooler years were no reason to talk about a ‘slowdown’ in global warming, it would be wrong to conclude now that a few very hot years are acceleration. Global warming is proceeding pretty much exactly as predicted.
The fact that temperatures have now shot up again shows that those people who said global warming had stopped were wrong – we said all along that was nonsense.
It is becoming more and more urgent. Time has almost run out to get emissions down. That’s the real emergency.
Rahmstorf does think there is a climate emergency, but he would have made the same assessment at any point in time stretching back many years. The record-breaking February doesn’t change that.
When will cities be abandoned ? When will new safer areas be developed for populations?
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Frankly I just can't see how we avoid very extreme consequences of global warming. Droughts, extreme wildfires, loss of huge areas of productive land, sharp increases in storms and sea levels.
In that context I wonder what the priorities of governments around the world will be. For example when will areas be written off as uninhabitable When will cities be abandoned ? When will new safer areas be developed for populations?
Who is actually thinking about these questions ? Are they even on an agenda ?
Yet, you're still driving that Prado around.
Yet, you're still driving that Prado around.
what message would that be Mr Plod? If you check back... Years on this forum if you like, you will see I have always advocated living frugally.Onya bike as usual.
Message getting through slightly
Who ever said anything about your particular lifestyle Wayne ? Who ever doubted that you diligently cultivate the smallest practical carbon footprint you possibly can ? You have certainly let us know it.
It's just "Not The Point" isn't it ? The conversation is about the big picture, the big problems and the variety of solutions or responses that will be required.
To date you have simply denied any big problems in any big picture. Instead you decide that making up silly, imaginary comments about peoples personal lives is the way to go.
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