http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...o-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html
Article on the discrepancies in temp records FYI
We all have to guard against confirmation bias plod, becoming too invested in a particular view.
As I've consistently noted, while Nero fiddles Rome burns. That is to say that while the world is focused on the largely politicised issue of co2 emissions, all sorts of other issues are ignored.
A pox on the Goreists house for that (IMNTBCHO)
Dr Lomborg has been accused of cherrypicking data to understate the threat of climate change, and has questioned whether the benefits of efforts to curb climate change justify the costs. He believes funding would be better spent on adapting to changing conditions, investing in renewable technology and tackling poverty.
Dr Lomborg has been accused of cherrypicking data to understate the threat of climate change, and has questioned whether the benefits of efforts to curb climate change justify the costs. He believes funding would be better spent on adapting to changing conditions, investing in renewable technology and tackling poverty.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/econo...-1227319401918
And the problem with this notion is exactly what again?
Because in the real world we deal with risk management not certainty. Dr Lomborg is taking the view that CC will only pose small to moderate problems. Currently almost everyone else in the field looks at the evidence and believe the risks of severe to catastrophic outcomes are very real.
When does it make sense to ignore the overwhelming views of experts in the field in such a critical issue in favour of one of very small group of outliers who hold a different opinion?
It doesn't help when the outliers chose to cheery pick their data and ignore the wider picture of what is happening.
Catastrophic outcomes?????
Experts like Tim Flannery who said there never be enough rains to fill the dams in Brisbane Sydney and Melbourne.
The Labor states took his "EXPERT" advice and spent billions of dollars on desalinization plants that are now in mothballs....He should have advised them to build more dams.
Flannery's advice certainly did not make any sense.
The same old same old noco, critise the past (like you do about Gvt. debt) and ignore the real issues for solutions for the future.
The scientists did not factor in the earths ability to take in heat causing the current displacement and therefore increased cloud, rain and more intense storms. As said in a post a couple of days back, the scale and complexity of climate change is a very difficult one even for the best of science. But we can from our own skins see and feel the changes now occurring. Days for denial are gone, we have to do something.
NOCO you are cherry picking again and frankly not even understanding how dangerous even your cherry picked "facts" are.
No our dams havn't gone dry. Great. Perhaps you might care look further afield at California or Brazil. Does that information cause you to rethink ?
And yes we do have fantastic floods these days. In fact we have had some of the most damaging floods in Australia in recorded history. CC is about weather extremes as well as a general increase in temperature.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/23/brazil-worst-drought-history
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...on-increase-due-to-climate-change-study-finds
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...er-california-drought-aquifers-hidden-crisis/
And the problem with this notion is exactly what again?
Because in the real world we deal with risk management not certainty. Dr Lomborg is taking the view that CC will only pose small to moderate problems. Currently almost everyone else in the field looks at the evidence and believe the risks of severe to catastrophic outcomes are very real.
When does it make sense to ignore the overwhelming views of experts in the field in such a critical issue in favour of one of very small group of outliers who hold a different opinion?
It doesn't help when the outliers chose to cheery pick their data and ignore the wider picture of what is happening.
NOCO you are cherry picking again and frankly not even understanding how dangerous even your cherry picked "facts" are.
No our dams havn't gone dry. Great. Perhaps you might care look further afield at California or Brazil. Does that information cause you to rethink ?
And yes we do have fantastic floods these days. In fact we have had some of the most damaging floods in Australia in recorded history. CC is about weather extremes as well as a general increase in temperature.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/23/brazil-worst-drought-history
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...on-increase-due-to-climate-change-study-finds
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...er-california-drought-aquifers-hidden-crisis/
Here with some interesting information.....very 'Interesting'
I just love this comment by one poster.
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Luv your posts to noco, you bring all the intellectual rigger of a Building site lunch room. What is it about your fixation with Flannery? There's a couple vastly more Highly educated influential people you could pit your 'wits' against... or is it there's just 'something about Tim' ...
How are you on the laws of Thermodynamics? I think there's one that describes heat and capacity for work. To understand this law may help you with ferocity/or lack of, regarding weather. Come back when you've done your homework.
Thermal expansion is another interesting scientific law, that it seems your yet to associate yourself with. Luckily though the good many of the, schooled in engineering, ruling class of the socialist(though fabian?) Chinese Government are fully aware of this concrete reality and the vulnerability of 100's of millions of the their citizenship and all of their low level infrastructure.
Feel free to send them your 'thoughts'
Luv your posts to noco, you bring all the intellectual rigger of a Building site lunch room. What is it about your fixation with Flannery? There's a couple vastly more Highly educated influential people you could pit your 'wits' against... or is it there's just 'something about Tim' ...
How are you on the laws of Thermodynamics? I think there's one that describes heat and capacity for work. To understand this law may help you with ferocity/or lack of, regarding weather. Come back when you've done your homework.
Thermal expansion is another interesting scientific law, that it seems your yet to associate yourself with. Luckily though the good many of the, schooled in engineering, ruling class of the socialist(though fabian?) Chinese Government are fully aware of this concrete reality and the vulnerability of 100's of millions of the their citizenship and all of their low level infrastructure.
Feel free to send them your 'thoughts'
It is a shame you lefties can't face reality to the fact that 3 stupid Labor states Qld, NSW and Victoria all took Flannery seriously.
It must really hit a NERVE every time I mention his name and how he cost the tax payers in those states billions of wasted money.
But enough said...we all know the Green/Labor left wing socialists just do not know how to handle the economy whether it is state or Federal.
A stupid post which does nothing to address the situation now or contribute to the future.
Mistakes were sure made in the past but drowning and trying to hang your hat on it all is dumb.
Lefties, greenies, so what, we are all, left right and centre part of the overall democratic community. An open exchange between us all and some acceptance that all are only trying to make our world a better place is the path dear noco.
So stop living in the past and try to be constructive ole Pal.
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