Punish the poor, reward the rich!

[sptrawler]

I wish to clarify that the dud manager I am referring to is not, and to my knowledge has never been, employed by an electricity generation business either government owned or private.

Or to be more specific and for the avoidance of doubt I am *not* referring to the Hydro-Electric Corporation also known as Hydro Tasmania / Entura / Momentum Energy.

The incidents I have referred to occurred quite some time ago in a workplace which involves electrical work but not power generation.

My appologies, if my comments ever suggested that, You have done nothing but commended Tassie Hydro.

I was more making reference to the fact you have moved, I would assume it is because it furthers your career, I did the same many times.
I was using it as a comparison, to someone who choses not to move, but would rather the company changed to facilitate the employees needs.
My appologies if it came over badly.
Having said that, I still think you step up into politics.
Australia really does need people like you, and I'm not taking the pi$$.

 

[luutzu]

Everyone was born naked and penniless

So everyone controls their destiny.
It’s not until they look back at the
Decisions they made that they realise
How good or bad those decisions were.

Controlling your own destiny isn’t a luxury.
Certainly not in this country.

I heard somewhere that social mobility in the West has slowed and been in decline for quite a few decades now.

I have never heard of anyone saying that when they were young, they want to grow up and work in some lowly, insecure job, living paycheck to paycheck.

Maybe wrong and bad decisions were made along the way; maybe some are luckier than others... But reality is that for certain economic class, tax bracket... mistakes after mistakes can be made and it's no biggie.

For some, one wrong step or one seriously unfortunate event happen and life's downhill from there.

 

[luutzu]

He is seen very little in the media, I had to google his name to find anything, so that isn't the case.
He was just a hard working, level headed get on with it sort of person.
I haven't talked to him in 40years, but when this topic came up, I thought I would google his name. As I thought he has done extremely well for himself.
From my perspective, I came from England as an 8 year old, went to one primary school to grade 7.
After that we moved a lot, I did year 8 by correspondence in the NW of W.A, year 9 in Bunbury and year 10 in Kalgoorlie.
I have found Australia to be the land of opportunity and contradiction.
I was told poms were just whingers, but I have found Aussie's to be the worst whingers in the World, with the least to whinge about.

Are you whinging about whining poms' descendants whinging and whining?

The world does change a lot since you were knee high Homer.

Higher education were free. Jobs were aplenty. Only a few people around the place. No foreign workers. No Chinese and Asian slave labour to compete with. Stuff like that.

 

[sptrawler]

Are you whinging about whining poms' descendants whinging and whining?

The world does change a lot since you were knee high Homer.

Higher education were free. Jobs were aplenty. Only a few people around the place. No foreign workers. No Chinese and Asian slave labour to compete with. Stuff like that.

Jeez your just like that Vietnamese meal that wont stay down.

 

[Smurf1976]

My appologies, if my comments ever suggested that, You have done nothing but commended Tassie Hydro.

I was more making reference to the fact you have moved, I would assume it is because it furthers your career, I did the same many times.
I was using it as a comparison, to someone who choses not to move, but would rather the company changed to facilitate the employees needs.
My appologies if it came over badly.

No worries.

I just wanted to make it clear to avoid any doubt.

The incidents took place a long time ago and nothing to do with the power industry.

As for what I’m doing now, that’s a subject for another thread someday but the reasons amount to “been there, done that, know it all inside and out, here’s an opportunity.....”

 

[luutzu]

Jeez your just like that Vietnamese meal that wont stay down.

Never eat Asian food outside of Asian areas Homer. You never know how long it's been there.

Also, don't eat pork rolls on a hot summer day either.

And oh, if you eat Asian and your tongue tingles, that's MSG.

Where were we?

 

[sptrawler]

No worries.

I just wanted to make it clear to avoid any doubt.

The incidents took place a long time ago and nothing to do with the power industry.

As for what I’m doing now, that’s a subject for another thread someday but the reasons amount to “been there, done that, know it all inside and out, here’s an opportunity.....”

Like I said, my appologies, if it came over badly.
But I do re iterate my comments on a political future, and maybe just having a quiet cup of tea with your local member, now you are away from your history.
I think, these politicians need to have a general chat with people from a power background, I doubt any of them have any idea what they are facing.
Again my appologies, sorry, but it all did become out of context.

 

[sptrawler]

Never eat Asian food outside of Asian areas Homer. You never know how long it's been there.

Also, don't eat pork rolls on a hot summer day either.

And oh, if you eat Asian and your tongue tingles, that's MSG.

Where were we?

Love Asian food, I will post a picture of Malaysia Lego land this weekend, taking the daughter and grandsons there. lol

 

[Smurf1976]

No worries, all good. Just wanted to ensure nobody’s jumping to any conclusions that aren’t right.

Getting the thread back on topic, I see a common theme in a lot of things.

Failing to reward hard work.

The various issues with taxation and welfare.

Embedded high costs with things like utilities and parts of the public service.

Risk aversion from investors who just want to buy existing houses or shares of established major companies.

Etc.

All in my opinion are what happens when as a society we become fat and lazy, having not had a recession in over a quarter of a century.

 

[lindsayf]

No worries, all good. Just wanted to ensure nobody’s jumping to any conclusions that aren’t right.

Getting the thread back on topic, I see a common theme in a lot of things.

Failing to reward hard work.

The various issues with taxation and welfare.

Embedded high costs with things like utilities and parts of the public service.

Risk aversion from investors who just want to buy existing houses or shares of established major companies.

Etc.

All in my opinion are what happens when as a society we become fat and lazy, having not had a recession in over a quarter of a century.

In my workplace of about 10 years there is a particular psychopath bully manager who does as little as possible other than undermine productivity and morale in particular ways. That person has had a good crack at me at times and I have survived by making myself a hard target, going above..to the top. I am now off the radar but others are on it and that person enjoys good tenure and money and power despite everything. Yes it is a problem that such people survive let alone get to position so of power.

 

[SirRumpole]

All in my opinion are what happens when as a society we become fat and lazy, having not had a recession in over a quarter of a century.

I doubt if you are advocating we should have a recession to solve those problems.

So then, what else ?

FWIW I think changes are already taking place that are reminding us that life wasn't meant to be easy, like reduced full time work, more job redundancies by automation, the rise of the gig economy, loss of industries like automotive, tcf etc, stubborn unemployment rate and stagnant wages.

So I'm not sure we all that fat and lazy.

 

[Wysiwyg]

In my workplace of about 10 years there is a particular psychopath bully manager who does as little as possible other than undermine productivity and morale in particular ways. That person has had a good crack at me at times and I have survived by making myself a hard target, going above..to the top. I am now off the radar but others are on it and that person enjoys good tenure and money and power despite everything. Yes it is a problem that such people survive let alone get to position so of power.

Good that you went above that turd to keep it real. I don't know your workplace culture but if everyone does a fair days work then he is on a power trip that will see his eventual demise. Managing people is a skill that can be learned.

 

[sptrawler]

FWIW I think changes are already taking place that are reminding us that life wasn't meant to be easy, like reduced full time work, more job redundancies by automation, the rise of the gig economy, loss of industries like automotive, tcf etc, stubborn unemployment rate and stagnant wages.

Re read your post, it doesn't sound like a first World economy to me.

So I'm not sure we all that fat and lazy.

Well that is what Greece says.

 

[lindsayf]

Good that you went above that turd to keep it real. I don't know your workplace culture but if everyone does a fair days work then he is on a power trip that will see his eventual demise. Managing people is a skill that can be learned.

It is a she - she has plenty of guile and charm to hypnotise the unwary and the naive..it is amazing how she can ge away with extreme incompetence and bullying. Amazed that another CEO has chosen to leave her in despite what must be a myriad of complaints by now. Something wrong with the culture when that happens - but that is what we are talking about.

 

[sptrawler]

It is a she - she has plenty of guile and charm to hypnotise the unwary and the naive..it is amazing how she can ge away with extreme incompetence and bullying. Amazed that another CEO has chosen to leave her in despite what must be a myriad of complaints by now. Something wrong with the culture when that happens - but that is what we are talking about.

It's called affirmative action, it over rides all common sense and attempts to change the outcome.
Usually everything returns to the long term norm, so just slip on the mushroom hat and the Graucho Marx glasses and moustache, keep your head down and wait for the storm to pass.

 

[luutzu]

It's called affirmative action, it over rides all common sense and attempts to change the outcome.
Usually everything returns to the long term norm, so just slip on the mushroom hat and the Graucho Marx glasses and moustache, keep your head down and wait for the storm to pass.

Got your NewsCorp subscription renewed did ya?

 

[sptrawler]

Got your NewsCorp subscription renewed did ya?

I subscribe to nothing, I'm a pensioner and I can't even get a free read of the 'Australian'.

But I don't have to read anything, to see where all the propaganda, is going.
Sooner or later people will wake up.

 

[luutzu]

I subscribe to nothing, I'm a pensioner and I can't even get a free read of the 'Australian'.

But I don't have to read anything, to see where all the propaganda, is going.
Sooner or later people will wake up.

Gut feel is quite dangerous Homer. Especially for White, senior Aussies living in Western Australia.

How many group did I just insult?

 

[sptrawler]

Gut feel is quite dangerous Homer. Especially for White, senior Aussies living in Western Australia.

How many group did I just insult?

Not enough, going by your likes score.

I still reckon you are sitting in a call centre in Beijing, and posting through a ghost ISP.

 

[luutzu]

Not enough, going by your likes score.

I still reckon you are sitting in a call centre in Beijing, and posting through a ghost ISP.

Heaven's net is wide, reaching the four corners of the world.