Garpal Gumnut
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The less nations who have nuclear capability the better.
Couldn't the Western Allies just bomb the crap out of the nuclear sites on a regular basis without actually invading the country. With satellites and star war technology this shouldn't be too difficult.
Ahmadinejad and his cronies are quite mad enough as they are without having nuclear arms to get their jollies off and threaten us and all around them.
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Thanks for getting this thread back on Topic....however ill have to disagree with your assumptions.
Israel will be the country doing the bombing...as Israel is the only country that could do it with any
legitimacy...The Iranian Govt will know its coming, as will the US...the US will have 2 carrier Groups
near by to lend assistance to Israel.
When the inevitable retaliation happens, most of the Iranian Air force and missile sites and military
infrastructure etc will be destroyed in a couple of days....thus leaving Iran unable to do pretty
much anything of significance.
It will all be over in a week or less...the Syrians wont do anything as theres just no upside for them.
"so cynical" has been out-cynic'ed I thinkPerhaps it might be more appropriate to send four 747s with our Dear Leader Lu Kewen and the mob from the 2020 summit to subject the Iranian leadership to two days of boring elitist waffle.
I love a good cynic but you have to be an American Millitary General with a comment like thatIt will all be over in a week or less....
Its usually pretty easy to see whats gona happen...i successfully predicted the out come of Gulf war 1I love a good cynic but you have to be an American Millitary General with a comment like thatWhat are you doing moonlighting on an Aussie share site?
iran is not making bombs.
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Well it comes down to who is madder than who?...Iran or the US?
No, bombing the crap out of them not an option, not even remotely:
1.) US bombs the crap out of Iranian suspected nuclear sites.
2.) Iran retaliates by firing missiles into Israel.
3.) Israel retaliates by bombing Iranian military installations.
4.) Syria attacks the Golan heights, and Hezbollah attack Israel from Lebanon.
5.) Turkey sends army units to its border with Syria.
You get the idea. WWIII in an instant.
And factor in a world oil supply with the Straight of Hormuz closed. Say goodbye to your oil-dependent economy.
jman
cynic. iran is not making bombs. just like there were no wmd's in iraq.
cynic. iran is not making bombs. just like there were no wmd's in iraq.
if you want to bomb a country that has illegal nukes, bad human rights record, attacks other countries at random, murders its neighbours civillians, and ignores international law, bomb israel into submittion.
metric said:think!!!! why would iran build 1 or 2 or 10 nukes, when the use of even one of them would see them wiped off the face of the earth???? and why would you believe the us intel agencies?
there is no negotiation with radical islam.
This is what the loud minority forget... or choose to ignore...
Its usually pretty easy to see whats gona happen...i successfully predicted the out come of Gulf war 1
with the statement that.....It will be all over with thin 40 days, and the allies will kill more of there own troops than the Iraqis do.
I think it took 45 days...give or take.
cynic. iran is not making bombs. just like there were no wmd's in iraq.
How about...
1 - Israel's crack air force bomb Iranian sites along with US submission bombing to dull any Iranian response.
2 - Iraq settles down as insurgents stop getting arm shipments from Iran.
3 - Iran is now in internal turmoil as the moderates have had enough of the mullahs taking them to the brink of destruction and the government falls.
....
. you seem to have the impression that you are dealing with rational, reasonable people who can be negotiated with. there is no negotiation with radical islam.
Hans Blix former head of UN inspection team in Iraq
Current Chairman of the WDM Commission
no I don't think US has any evidence ... of a will on the part of Iran to want nuclear weapons
the US don't want evidence that would prevent sanctions
Iran wants enriched Uranium for fuel
and non proliferation treaty does not prevent states from enriching Uranium for purpose of making fuel
true, IF they have an industrial scale capability to enrich
they COULD change their mind some day
hence dissuade them in proper negotiation / discussion
I think the UN etc should talk with Iran now, and without conditions
Q. you were denied time in Iraq,
A. the risk is there that Iran can go the same way
I am sceptical of US accusations without evidence
Talk of WWIII is hyping the issue
Bush was talking of "9/11" being the "Pearl Harbour of WWIII"
I don;t think Europe is talking that way
Let's talk about negotiation now
and let's stop waving sticks in the air like this
Iranians are first to say they don;t want nuclear weapons
They CAN HAVE the nuclear fuel they need for nuclear reactors
and they should have the guarantees that they will be left alone. ..
A preemptive strike would be disastrous....
we've seen what has happened in Iraq
We'd like to see the US take the initiative - with an exit strategy from the nuclear era.
Quite obviously from this sample not a minority, Superfly.
Funny, I could have sworn you were talking about the good ol' US of A here. Some people might argue there is no negotiation with radical nationalistic, defense-obsessed, global bulllies either.
Iran has resumed its programme of enrichment, that is stated...which also produces weapon grade material...A recent assessment by U.S. intelligence agencies concludes Iran shelved its nuclear weapons program over four years ago.
"We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program," reads a declassified version of the National Intelligence Estimate key findings.
Superfly, with any aggressive action, there will always be a reaction, sooner or later. The Iranian response wouldn't necessarily have to come from Iran either, as Hezbollah have basically created a "state within a state" in Southern Lebanon, so right on Israel's doorstep.
For all their technological wizadry and weapons, the Israelis aren't as good as they think they are. In the recent conflict Hezbollah managed to listen in on their communications as the IDF were using unsecured frequencies, so they basically new what they were going to do, and gave them a bloody nose.
Can't see the Iranian Govt falling if they come under attack just yet, if anything it may play into their hands as the Iraq invasion did during the Iran-Iraq War....which is called the "Holy Defense" in Iran. Even if they are distinctly unpopular among the middle class, they still have the military firmly in their corner, and to be seen as a victim of an unjustified attack can have the effect of gelling a country together.
classic
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