Israel - Palestine

[wayneL]

Chris Cuomo grows a brain (and some balls)

 

[colly601]

I would consider myself one of the last people to be asked about this conflict due to my not-so-in-depth knowledge about the history, but personally, I don't think that matters as much anymore, the bloodshed has been going on for so long now that it's inevitable both sides are committing unjustifiable brutalities against individuals as well as groups regardless of who started it initially, extreme islamists have always been a problem and Israel's philosophy only adds fuel to that fire and ends up recruiting more terrorists who usually come from dead families due to war, there's no right or wrong side and peace needs to be enforced, easier said than done but if the selfish experts that rule both sides are selfless then it's as easily done as it is said.

Besides, humans have always been incapable of fitting more than one truth in their skulls and that's why everyone's so keen on picking a side, not realizing neutrality is always best and is infact, an opinion, also, I'm not going to stray away from my neutral position but I just don't think people should call Israel's behavior as self-defense anymore, do people know what self-defense even means? the death toll of the Palestinians is just so damn high compared to that of the Israelis, don't get me wrong, but to kill 30k+ Palestinians because of the Hamas border breach (Which was quickly dealt with) that ended up killing around 1400 Israelis (Thankfully not more than that), It's only "self-defense" if you treat the life of one Israeli citizen as valuable as the lives of a 100 Palestinian kids, but who's to blame for that? It's not like humans are good at anything that involves ration and fairness anyway, may God save us from ourselves, as that's what's wrong with this conflict, ourselves.

 

[wayneL]

due to my not-so-in-depth knowledge

This is the only part you got right.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

...on Wednesday, Education Minister Jason Clare, who has a sizeable Muslim population in his western Sydney seat of Blaxland, used social media to congratulate his constituents on Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of Ramadan. “Wishing all my Muslim friends Eid Mubarak and hoping for an end to the killing and the suffering in Gaza,” he wrote.

****-scared and stupid

 

[orr]

This is the only part you got right.

Says contributor who is clueless as to who Chaim Weismann is in Isreal's foundation story and his contribution to the Zionist project when he starts the 'Zionist' thread...One, just one, of Weismann's achivements was to be come the first Prime Minister of the state Isreal

w-Aynle also has in the past told of the situation of his family line during the 'Blitz' .
w-Anyle's family line were protected by the British Military at that time 1940.... In 1947 a bloke named Menachem Begin was in charge of a terrorist out-fit, 'the Jewish Ingun Fighters' who murdered two British service men, Merryn Paice and Clifford Martin and bobby trapped the bodies. The hanging dead men, when the engineer's cut them down in a eucalyptus grove ???? ... there were body parts found two hundred yards away...
Menachem Begin went on to become another PM of Isreal.

Mr Colly601 if you are getting any push back from the above contributor, you just might be ambling toward 'the right track'.

cheers orr.

 

[wayneL]

Says contributor who is clueless as to who Chaim Weismann is in Isreal's foundation story and his contribution to the Zionist project when he starts the 'Zionist' thread...One, just one, of Weismann's achivements was to be come the first Prime Minister of the state Isreal

w-Aynle also has in the past told of the situation of his family line during the 'Blitz' .
w-Anyle's family line were protected by the British Military at that time 1940.... In 1947 a bloke named Menachem Begin was in charge of a terrorist out-fit, 'the Jewish Ingun Fighters' who murdered two British service men, Merryn Paice and Clifford Martin and bobby trapped the bodies. The hanging dead men, when the engineer's cut them down in a eucalyptus grove ???? ... there were body parts found two hundred yards away...
Menachem Begin went on to become another PM of Isreal.

Mr Colly601 if you are getting any push back from the above contributor, you just might be ambling toward 'the right track'.

cheers orr.

Oh my!

This is a view which can only achieved by erasing 80% of the relevant facts and history, augmented by huge dollop of Jew hatred.

River to the sea, right?

 

[moXJO]

So a while back I mentioned that US will eventually bow to Israel's will and push for war with Iran. US are now sending extra troops and military equipment to no doubt start another war in the middle East.

Australia needs to keep out of this one.

 

[basilio]

A detailed description of how the World Central Kitchen workers ended up dead.

A mission of mercy, then a fatal strike: How an aid convoy in Gaza became Israel’s target​

An Israeli airstrike has killed seven aid workers in Gaza, threatening to set back efforts to open a maritime corridor for aid from Cyprus to help ease the desperate conditions in northern Gaza.

By JACK JEFFERY, JULIA FRANKEL and WAFAA SHURAFA

Updated 1:14 AM GMT+10, April 12, 2024


DEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — It was hours after sundown when the eight aid trucks drove from the makeshift jetty, cobbled together from tons of wreckage left across Gaza by months of war.

The trucks were escorted by three vehicles carrying aid workers from the World Central Kitchen, the relief organization that had arranged the massive food shipment. All seven aid workers wore body armor. The cars were marked, including on the roof, with the group’s emblem, a multicolored frying pan.

A mission of mercy, then a fatal strike: How an aid convoy in Gaza became Israel’s target

The trucks were escorted by three vehicles carrying aid workers from the World Central Kitchen, the relief organization that had arranged the massive food shipment.

apnews.com

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Aussie aid worker unleashes over Gaza gunfire​

An Aussie aid worker who was in a convoy which was struck by bullets while delivering much-needed aid to Palestinians says she is “frustrated” safety assurances put in place by Israel aren’t being met.

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now, if you were honest, you'd mention who fired the shots.

 

[wayneL]

I can imagine the headlines:

Iran nukes Tel Aviv, International community blame Israel, advises restraint.

Islamist community: It never happened, or, Israel nuked itself so it can go to war with Iran.

Leftists throw parties.

 

[IFocus]

So a while back I mentioned that US will eventually bow to Israel's will and push for war with Iran. US are now sending extra troops and military equipment to no doubt start another war in the middle East.

Australia needs to keep out of this one.

Got to wonder if Netanyahu did the bombing to get the pressure of him and suck the US in.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Got to wonder if Netanyahu did the bombing to get the pressure of him and suck the US in.

which bombing was this?

 

[moXJO]

And surprise surprise we get an attack in Sydney to fan the flames.

Here's hoping it's not a Muslim because it would be running on a very suspicious script.

 

[wayneL]

Iran escalates

ð¨ BREAKING: Iran's Islamist Groups Directly ATTACK Israel

We finally have Gaza Health Ministry exposed as the numbers coming from the conflict donât seem accurate.Support Mahyar via PayPal: http://paypal.me/mahyarto...

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Sh17 is hitting the fan.

 

[Knobby22]

which bombing was this?

The Iranian embassy in Damascus.
and it's illegal to attack embassies under the 1961 convention on diplomatic relations.

Iran: Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, vowed a harsh response to the attack. Khamenei's political advisor Ali Shamkhani, said that the United States "remains directly responsible whether or not it was aware of the intention to carry out this attack".

(which I think is a bit harsh on the USA)

 

[greggles]

Doubts are emerging about the true number of civilian deaths in Gaza.

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical report, the ministry notes that it considers an individual record to be incomplete if it is missing any of the following key data points: identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death. The health ministry also released a report on April 3 that acknowledged the presence of incomplete data but did not define what it meant by “incomplete.” In that earlier report, the ministry acknowledged the incompleteness of 12,263 records. It is unclear why, after just three more days, the number fell to 11,371 — a decrease of more than 900 records.

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

 

[moXJO]

Got to wonder if Netanyahu did the bombing to get the pressure of him and suck the US in.

If you follow the history of Israel you quickly work out they get what they want. Usually at the expense of a large number of people's lives

 

[moXJO]

Doubts are emerging about the true number of civilian deaths in Gaza.

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

You can't believe much of what is coming out of Palestine as their propaganda unit is one of the world's best.

Gaza is just the method to get at the real prize of destabilising Iran.

 

[Knobby22]

Doubts are emerging about the true number of civilian deaths in Gaza.

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

So if you don't have the body, under the rubble, you can't count it, if you don't know about the death, you can't count it, if you don't know the date of birth , you can't count it, if you are not sure who they are, you can't count it, and you would need hundreds of public servants to keep track. yea, the figures are obviously wrong.

They need to do the modern SF wartime thing and have sensors on all their citizens that goes out when they die!

 

[IFocus]

I was surprised at how high the the civilian deaths quoted by Israel were