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Details sketchy came over a wire, but sounds like ground bases.
US bases in *Syria* is a bit of a "wut?"
US bases in *Syria* is a bit of a "wut?"
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Forward Operating Bases in the SDF Kurdish areas of Syria and also in Iraq ... in the desert and against rump ISIS .
U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours ... but the President of the United States just made absolutely zero mention of the attacks or a response in his Address to the Nation.
...including two Iranian-backed Iraqi militias conducted separate attacks on US forces stationed at the al Harir airbase and Ain al Asad airbase in Iraq
U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours ... but the President of the United States just made absolutely zero mention of the attacks or a response in his Address to the Nation.
...including two Iranian-backed Iraqi militias conducted separate attacks on US forces stationed at the al Harir airbase and Ain al Asad airbase in Iraq
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The US has bases in the most surprising places.
Depending on which sources you quote, there is anything from 45 to 50 countries that house US military bases,
Some countries have more than one.
Guantanamo Bay Base , aka Gitmo, is on the island of Cuba.Been there since about 1900.
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This is shocking.
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Anyone surprised?
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there's definitely a shift, as the demographic changes in liberal democracies.
the conflation of Hamas and Palestinian, and then Arab, goals does not give much hope for the future. Black is white.
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Where did Hamas come from ? What is the history of Hamas-Israeli relations ? Check out this background to the current murderous situtaion.
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Ahmed Yassin went from refugee to founder and spiritual leader of the Islamic militant movement Hamas.(Reuters: Eric Gaillard)
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In 1952, a teenage boy named Ahmed Yassin was playing with friends at a beach in the Gaza Strip.
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But on this day, there was a terrible accident.
There are conflicting reports about whether Yassin was swimming, doing somersaults, playing soccer or wrestling a friend, but somehow he broke his neck.
He became a quadriplegic — confined to a wheelchair and dependent on others for the rest of his life.
But Yassin was smart, charismatic and determined, and managed to accomplish a great many things.
He studied English, became a teacher, married and had 11 children. But as time went on, the trajectory of Ahmed Yassin's life took a turn.
He went from a spiritual leader running a charity to co-founder of the ferocious political and paramilitary group Hamas, fighting for absolute freedom from Israel in a bloody and relentless war.
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Ahmed Yassin was a quadriplegic refugee who ran a charity. How did he end up founding Hamas?
By Matt Bevan and Yasmin Parry for If You're ListeningPosted 7h ago7 hours ago, updated 4h ago4 hours ago
Ahmed Yassin went from refugee to founder and spiritual leader of the Islamic militant movement Hamas.(Reuters: Eric Gaillard)
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In 1952, a teenage boy named Ahmed Yassin was playing with friends at a beach in the Gaza Strip.
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How Ahmed Yassin became the founder of Hamas
How did a disabled refugee from Gaza become one of the most influential men in Palestine?But on this day, there was a terrible accident.
There are conflicting reports about whether Yassin was swimming, doing somersaults, playing soccer or wrestling a friend, but somehow he broke his neck.
He became a quadriplegic — confined to a wheelchair and dependent on others for the rest of his life.
But Yassin was smart, charismatic and determined, and managed to accomplish a great many things.
He studied English, became a teacher, married and had 11 children. But as time went on, the trajectory of Ahmed Yassin's life took a turn.
He went from a spiritual leader running a charity to co-founder of the ferocious political and paramilitary group Hamas, fighting for absolute freedom from Israel in a bloody and relentless war.
Ahmed Yassin was a quadriplegic refugee who ran a charity. How did he end up founding Hamas?
How did Ahmed Yassin go from a spiritual leader running a charity, to the co-founder of the ferocious political and paramilitary group Hamas?
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Actually, their stated goal is the obliteration of Israel and every Jew in it.
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Great Wayne, Clearly you read the whole story already. What did you think ?
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I thought this take on the current Middle East disaster was on the money. Well worth reading the full story.
They crave a rage-filled reaction from Israel’s prime minister. Wise heads should temper his response – and then be rid of him
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You cannot think straight when you’re in pain. That’s truer still when the pain is combined with fury at those who caused it. There’s a reason we speak of “blind rage”: when anger descends, we cannot see what’s in front of us. And if that’s true of individuals, it’s truer still of nations.
That was the message Joe Biden brought when he travelled to Israel this week. Drawing on his own experience of multiple bereavements, he consoled Israelis grieving for the more than 1,400 civilians killed by Hamas in the 7 October massacre and those waiting for word on the 203 hostages, including young children and the elderly, still held in Gaza. In what has become his signature style, Biden shared in their pain.
But he also drew on his memory of how US leaders reacted to America’s collective trauma in September 2001, and here he offered something closer to a warning. “I caution you, while you feel that rage, don’t be consumed by it. After 9/11 we were enraged in the United States. While we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes.”
He did need to spell out that, in its fury at al-Qaida, the US did not simply hunt down that one network, but invaded the country that harboured it, Afghanistan, and one that had nothing to do with it, Iraq – both with devastating, lasting consequences. After 9/11, the US declared a global “war on terror” that cost hundreds of thousands of lives, brought al-Qaida into places where it did not previously exist – Iraq among them – and birthed a new and even darker terror, in the form of Islamic State.
..... Prime minister for most of the last 15 years, Netanyahu has been an enabler of Hamas, building up the organisation, letting it rule Gaza unhindered – save for brief, periodic military operations against it – and allowing funds from its Gulf patrons to keep it flush. Netanyahu liked the idea of the Palestinians as a house divided – Fatah in the West Bank, Hamas in Gaza – because it allowed him to insist that there was no Palestinian partner he could do business with. That meant no peace process, no prospect of a Palestinian state, and no demand for Israeli territorial concessions.
None of this was a secret. In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
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Warning: Benjamin Netanyahu is walking right into Hamas’s trap
Jonathan FreedlandThey crave a rage-filled reaction from Israel’s prime minister. Wise heads should temper his response – and then be rid of him
Sat 21 Oct 2023 03.05 AEDTLast modified on Sat 21 Oct 2023 05.05 AEDT
You cannot think straight when you’re in pain. That’s truer still when the pain is combined with fury at those who caused it. There’s a reason we speak of “blind rage”: when anger descends, we cannot see what’s in front of us. And if that’s true of individuals, it’s truer still of nations.
That was the message Joe Biden brought when he travelled to Israel this week. Drawing on his own experience of multiple bereavements, he consoled Israelis grieving for the more than 1,400 civilians killed by Hamas in the 7 October massacre and those waiting for word on the 203 hostages, including young children and the elderly, still held in Gaza. In what has become his signature style, Biden shared in their pain.
But he also drew on his memory of how US leaders reacted to America’s collective trauma in September 2001, and here he offered something closer to a warning. “I caution you, while you feel that rage, don’t be consumed by it. After 9/11 we were enraged in the United States. While we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes.”
He did need to spell out that, in its fury at al-Qaida, the US did not simply hunt down that one network, but invaded the country that harboured it, Afghanistan, and one that had nothing to do with it, Iraq – both with devastating, lasting consequences. After 9/11, the US declared a global “war on terror” that cost hundreds of thousands of lives, brought al-Qaida into places where it did not previously exist – Iraq among them – and birthed a new and even darker terror, in the form of Islamic State.
..... Prime minister for most of the last 15 years, Netanyahu has been an enabler of Hamas, building up the organisation, letting it rule Gaza unhindered – save for brief, periodic military operations against it – and allowing funds from its Gulf patrons to keep it flush. Netanyahu liked the idea of the Palestinians as a house divided – Fatah in the West Bank, Hamas in Gaza – because it allowed him to insist that there was no Palestinian partner he could do business with. That meant no peace process, no prospect of a Palestinian state, and no demand for Israeli territorial concessions.
None of this was a secret. In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
Warning: Benjamin Netanyahu is walking right into Hamas’s trap | Jonathan Freedland
They crave a rage-filled reaction from Israel’s PM. Wise heads should temper his response – and then be rid of him, says Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland
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Some glaring ommisions, but whatevah.
Couple of questions for you.
Why do you think Egypt has also has also sealed their border with Gaza?
What do you think would happen if they completely open the border between Gaza and Israel?
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Potted history of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict.
www.bloomberg.com
Your Guide to Understanding the Roots of the Israel-Hamas War
The struggle between Arabs and Jews over ownership of the Holy Land dates back more than a century and has given rise to seven major wars. The latest broke out Oct. 7 when the Islamist Palestinian group Hamas, which is dedicated to Israel’s destruction and which the US and European Union have...
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Fair questions. This probably offers the most thoughtful analysis.
Why Egypt Won’t Open Its Border With Gaza
Concerns about a refugee crisis, financial strains, permanent displacement, and possible militancy in Sinai worry leaders in Cairo.
Why Egypt Won’t Open Its Border With Gaza
Concerns about a refugee crisis, financial strains, permanent displacement, and possible militancy in Sinai worry leaders in Cairo.
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has Egypt declared Hamas a terrorist organisation?
I'm also shocked.
Am I dreaming this reality?
Have a look at the video below.
Internationally, posters are being put up in public places of the hostages taken by Hamas.
The video shows someone in New York is taking these posters down & is captured by someone that sounds like they have a Hebrew accent.
I'm not Jewish, but if it was me, I don't think I would have shown the same restraint.
With all the **** that we see in this world, the self control of Western governments is to be admired.
Here's a middle east solution-Fair questions. This probably offers the most thoughtful analysis.
Why Egypt Won’t Open Its Border With Gaza
Concerns about a refugee crisis, financial strains, permanent displacement, and possible militancy in Sinai worry leaders in Cairo.
Why Egypt Won’t Open Its Border With Gaza
Concerns about a refugee crisis, financial strains, permanent displacement, and possible militancy in Sinai worry leaders in Cairo.
Considering how much the countries listed below love the plight of the Palestinians, let's open their borders so they can welcome them with open arms. I'm sure the US could supply C 130's to help transfer these refugees.
Lebanon
Iran
Iraq
Syria
Saudia Arabia
Yemen
Or maybe not.
Egypt's border is closed.
Saudi Arabia recently committed an atrocity to border crossers
Saudi Arabia: Mass Killings of Migrants at Yemen Border
Saudi border guards have killed at least hundreds of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers who tried to cross the Yemen-Saudi border between March 2022 and June 2023, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. If committed as part of a Saudi government policy to murder migrants, these...
Meanwhile, Europe is taking thousand of refugees from all of these countries plus thousands from Africa.
Basilio, there is zero point in you posting this information. It's irrelevant in the context.
Yes thank you.
I'm pretty sure we're capable of reading the news.
Do you have anything to add?
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I'm surprised Australia hasn't put their hand up for the refugees, we usually do, we have a few quarantine facilities around the place that aren't being used.
Well then.. keep reading more
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