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Israel in the Gaza Strip

Hamas is Islamic Sunni, Fatah is Baathist, Hezbollah is Shia.

Which makes Fatah the most acceptable to outsiders as their claim is to a nation state, not any typically religious mandate as they are secular.

Generally all the players are funded by out side regional interests and only exist and continue to shoot the place up due to regional players funding, training and directing them. You cannot make war without money and training.

Then you also have the Israelis exploiting the deep divides between the various factions to maintain the chaos.

The Palestinians incredibly continue to be pawns in the whole game happily maintaining the levels of violence.

I think 40% of the Gaza population are 16 years old or younger plenty of canon fodder there.
 
jewish scientists, which you ridicule, are the ones that allow israel to bomb the palestinians at will with no casualties.

What a load of crap.

"Children again fell victim to Israel's bombardment, with two sisters dying when a missile slammed onto a donkey cart in northern Gaza.

Since the massive aerial attack was unleashed on Saturday in a bid to halt persistent rocket fire from Gaza, at least 368 Palestinians, including 39 children, have been killed and 1,720 wounded." - news.ninemsn.com.au 31/12/08.
 
What a load of crap.

"Children again fell victim to Israel's bombardment, with two sisters dying when a missile slammed onto a donkey cart in northern Gaza.

Since the massive aerial attack was unleashed on Saturday in a bid to halt persistent rocket fire from Gaza, at least 368 Palestinians, including 39 children, have been killed and 1,720 wounded." - news.ninemsn.com.au 31/12/08.

Let's hope that Joseph and Mary got their census papers in before it all started.

JC 6 days old today.


gg
 
What a load of crap.

"Children again fell victim to Israel's bombardment, with two sisters dying when a missile slammed onto a donkey cart in northern Gaza.

Since the massive aerial attack was unleashed on Saturday in a bid to halt persistent rocket fire from Gaza, at least 368 Palestinians, including 39 children, have been killed and 1,720 wounded." - news.ninemsn.com.au 31/12/08.

Don't let truth get in the way of a good story/propaganda.
 
Good morning,
Another example of " Don't let truth get in the way of a good story/propaganda."

And then again, it just could be the truth !
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Israeli patrol boat rams aid ship off Gaza
From correspondents in Jerusalem
Agence France-Presse
December 30, 2008 06:52pm
Text size
THE Israeli navy has reportedly rammed a boat that was trying to deliver medical supplies to the Gaza Strip.
No one was injured in the collision between the patrol boat and the 20-metre Dignity, which was trying to take three tonnes of medical supplies into Gaza on day four of Israeli air strikes on the Palestinian territory.

Israeli army radio said the boat ”” operated by the pro-Palestinian Free Gaza Movement ”” ignored both orders to turn around and warning shots across its bow before it was rammed.

The Free Gaza Movement, which has ran the blockade six times since August to take humanitarian supplies into Gaza, said the vessel could still sail after the ramming.

Paul Laurdee, one of the group's founders, said the Dignity had been "surrounded" in international waters about 70km off the Israeli coast and 135km from Gaza.

"It was surrounded by 11 Israeli naval vessels," he said.

"They ordered the boat to stop, and we didn't. They began firing over our boat and into the waters next to the boat. When the boat wouldn't turn back, one of the naval vessels rammed the boat, but not enough to disable the boat."

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NEWS.com.au, 8 Dec 2008 On its website, the Free Gaza Movement said the Dignity was on a "mission of mercy" carrying three tonnes of medical supplies "donated by the people of Cyprus," from where it set off on Monday.

"Our people are communicating with the Israelis as to what's next," Mr Laurdee said.

"We will try to dock in Egypt or in Lebanon, or all the way back to Cyprus. But there is doubt about fuel on board and whether they can make it all the way back to Cyprus as normally we refuel in Gaza."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24856880-23109,00.html

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Attacking another ship in International Waters, (is this the action of the good guys ?)
this must be classed as the action of Pirates and even the United States surely should act and stop this low kind of action.

You may have noticed that the vessel did not fire or threaten the Israel Navy, however the Israel Navey attacked this unarmed vessel.
 
The only ones laughing are the Hamas terrorists. They provoked the Israelis with their random rocket fire until they got the result they wanted. Terrorists don't care about those killed or wounded, whether deliberately or randomly.

They have regained their status as the victims, making it a lot easier for their apologists.
 
Good morning,
Another example of " Don't let truth get in the way of a good story/propaganda."

And then again, it just could be the truth !
----------------------------------------------------------
Israeli patrol boat rams aid ship off Gaza
From correspondents in Jerusalem
Agence France-Presse
December 30, 2008 06:52pm
Text size
THE Israeli navy has reportedly rammed a boat that was trying to deliver medical supplies to the Gaza Strip.
No one was injured in the collision between the patrol boat and the 20-metre Dignity, which was trying to take three tonnes of medical supplies into Gaza on day four of Israeli air strikes on the Palestinian territory.

Israeli army radio said the boat ”” operated by the pro-Palestinian Free Gaza Movement ”” ignored both orders to turn around and warning shots across its bow before it was rammed.

The Free Gaza Movement, which has ran the blockade six times since August to take humanitarian supplies into Gaza, said the vessel could still sail after the ramming.

Paul Laurdee, one of the group's founders, said the Dignity had been "surrounded" in international waters about 70km off the Israeli coast and 135km from Gaza.

"It was surrounded by 11 Israeli naval vessels," he said.

"They ordered the boat to stop, and we didn't. They began firing over our boat and into the waters next to the boat. When the boat wouldn't turn back, one of the naval vessels rammed the boat, but not enough to disable the boat."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24856880-23109,00.html

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Attacking another ship in International Waters, (is this the action of the good guys ?)
this must be classed as the action of Pirates and even the United States surely should act and stop this low kind of action.

You may have noticed that the vessel did not fire or threaten the Israel Navy, however the Israel Navey attacked this unarmed vessel.

If you are driving your car at night and are asked to stop at a RBT do you keep driving Uncle ???

Your posts are getting increasingly pathetic....IMO
 
The only ones laughing are the Hamas terrorists. They provoked the Israelis with their random rocket fire until they got the result they wanted. Terrorists don't care about those killed or wounded, whether deliberately or randomly.

They have regained their status as the victims, making it a lot easier for their apologists.

Bingo!
 
N2F

"If you are driving your car at night and are asked to stop at a RBT do you keep driving Uncle ???

Your posts are getting increasingly pathetic....IMO"

Fish, cannot you read or understand the words, INTERNATIONAL WATERS ?
The action did not happen in the Waters of Israel or anywhere else in another countries waters, the attack happened in INTERNATIONAL WATERS !


Please do us all a favour and read the post, first before you carry on.


What has my driving a car within Australia go to with anything :(

This was an attack on a vessel in International waters where your Israel Navy fired upon an unarmed vessel and THEN rammed it !

The very thing the pirates do, therefore if they, your Israel Navy conducts its self like a bunch of pirates, it surely is the case, they must be pirates.

OK, fire away with the personal insults if it makes you and the actions of Israel feel any better within your soul.
Go for it, as I have had, already I am a racist and more on this thread.
 
Ironic that Israel should behave like the Nazis did with their occupied territories in WW2.
When any captive peoples openly opposed them they delved out collective punishments if they could not catch the perpetrators.
Gaza has been blockaded by the Israelis since Hamas were voted in.Is not a blockade an act of war?
 
Ironic that Israel should behave like the Nazis did with their occupied territories in WW2.
When any captive peoples openly opposed them they delved out collective punishments if they could not catch the perpetrators.
Gaza has been blockaded by the Israelis since Hamas were voted in.Is not a blockade an act of war?


The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter. below. Following are highlights.

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."


See any problems with the above?
 
The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter. below. Following are highlights.

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."


See any problems with the above?

:rolleyes:

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Erubin 21b. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
 
:rolleyes:

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Erubin 21b. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.


You have to provide proper context. Any thing out of context can be really dangerous. Improper translation of the divine scriptures can cause serious controversy.
 
Was looking forward to celebrating the New Year in the UAE but...

Dubai: His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, has ordered the cancellation of all forms of celebrations marking the New Year in Dubai emirate, as an act of solidarity with the Palestinian people. Gulfnews.

Bugger :mad:
 
Very interesting that link, as it correctly points out that the Hamas rocketfire began after their truce with Israel ended. Why did it end? Israel entering Gaza (breaking the truce terms) to destroy a tunnel.
 
Very interesting that link, as it correctly points out that the Hamas rocketfire began after their truce with Israel ended. Why did it end? Israel entering Gaza (breaking the truce terms) to destroy a tunnel.
Did that agreement allow the building of tunnels into Israel?
 
Was looking forward to celebrating the New Year in the UAE but...

Dubai: His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, has ordered the cancellation of all forms of celebrations marking the New Year in Dubai emirate, as an act of solidarity with the Palestinian people. Gulfnews.

Bugger :mad:


Bet he flew out and smoked it up with some of his buddies elsewhere hey ?
 
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