Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[luutzu]

So Luu, if you were given two choices of where you could live, would you choose the ME or the USA?

I'd like to live where the crazies aren't in power. And if in power, can't take people's live or freedom whenever they feel like it. So I guess if I have to it'd be the US since at least there they'll have to bring people before the court and I might be able to afford a lawyer.

Don't get me wrong, the US, and Western civilisation, has a heck of a lot going for it. But the good and commendable things it has aren't what we're reading in the press.

The West aren't great and noble because of its "Christian values". Heck, compare the times when the Christian religious nuts were all over the political map - it weren't so nice for the coloured folks, not so nice for the women of any colour, nor the homosexuals.. .and forget about the natives.

And it's not prosperous and innovative because of "capitalism". Count how many lives have been destroyed since Reagan and Thatcher and their neocons unleash that freedom for corporations to do whatever it is they wanted. Jobs are gone, the environment is going down the tube, workers are exploited and spit out when they cost a few bucks more than a graduate, wages are squeezed while profit and managerial pay skyrockets and the gov't can't tax much of it... Then there's the economic and financial crashes every few years where taxpayers money have to be use to bail out the "capitalists".

 

[Tisme]

Hard to blame people for desperately hanging onto their religion, praying to their almighty .... for help when they are being colonised and droned at will. Can't really blame them for hating the enemies who's taking their lives and future livelihood. That and if they don't believe it, their own psychos will deal with them.

What's our excuse for being stupid?

I don't know, the UK and USA seemed to get over it pretty quickly and move on to be become dominant world powers.

The Scots even voted to stay with their English bosses

 

[Tisme]

So Luu, if you were given two choices of where you could live, would you choose the ME or the USA?

I'm supposing you haven't stayed in the USA to see how they really live? Very similar to SE Asia where they work 6 or 7 days a week for just enough to feed and clothe themselves. It sure as s4it ain't like on the movies and telly shows.

There just isn't anywhere that has the same endless borders and means as Australia and we should fight any politics that wants to make us like the USA and SE Asia in the name of competition and progress.

 

[luutzu]

I don't know, the UK and USA seemed to get over it pretty quickly and move on to be become dominant world powers.

The Scots even voted to stay with their English bosses

Practise makes perfect, I guess.

Though I'm not sure about the moving on bit. Weren't Nazi Germany white and somewhat Christian? How about the godless Soviets to the East?

You know that if Western planners are any good, they could literally establish a world that are both prosperous, peaceful and where their culture and institutions will remain dominant and unchallenged til the end of time.

How many times in the history of the world could any empire ever seriously be in a position to do that, the world over? None.

But instead, their policies have resulted in rising domestic unrest; instability and military overreach abroad in the provinces; and rising challenge from at least two potential peer competitor.

Then there's the real threat from Mother Nature and her pandemics - all because of how industries and food production are managed.

 

[noco]

I'm supposing you haven't stayed in the USA to see how they really live? Very similar to SE Asia where they work 6 or 7 days a week for just enough to feed and clothe themselves. It sure as s4it ain't like on the movies and telly shows.

There just isn't anywhere that has the same endless borders and means as Australia and we should fight any politics that wants to make us like the USA and SE Asia in the name of competition and progress.

Your supposing is wrong again.

I have been to the USA as well as many other parts of the World including many parts of SE Asia....That is their way of living.

You go to a restaurant in the US and you get a bill.....On that bill you are asked whether you want to pay 15 or 20% tips....That is how many workers receive addition pay for their efforts....It is similar in Canada.

 

[Wysiwyg]

The beauty of using religion as the vehicle for domination and power, is that half the work is already done in winning over the 98% who are short on brains and long on gullibility.

That leaves Pakistan the next Isis style hot bed for extremist activity. Interestingly the Paki. gov. is reluctant to take on the extremist hate mongers who wish to implement sharia law in Pakistan. Letting the cancer fester is not good for the greater free world. They don't go away and defend their cause with a Kalashnikov. Allah said it's okay.

 

[Tisme]

Your supposing is wrong again.

I have been to the USA as well as many other parts of the World including many parts of SE Asia....That is their way of living.

You go to a restaurant in the US and you get a bill.....On that bill you are asked whether you want to pay 15 or 20% tips....That is how many workers receive addition pay for their efforts....It is similar in Canada.

And your point is??? Or are you just trolling again?

 

[noco]

And your point is??? Or are you just trolling again?

My point is your statement of supposition that I had not been in the USA .. I was there in 2012 OK...Are you satisfied now or do you need some proof?

 

[luutzu]

My point is your statement of supposition that I had not been in the USA .. I was there in 2012 OK...Are you satisfied now or do you need some proof?

I think Rumpelstiltskin was referring to you not frequenting there enough to really know the people. Can't really know how people do from mere fine dinning and tourisy places.

I mean I've frequent Sydney often enough but I've always only drive to a carpark near where I want to be - which is often the Aquarium or the Museum and fancy places like that. So I have only ever saw a couple of homeless people here and there.

It wasn't until last week that I have to walk a few blocks from Central to York that it's pretty clear a lot of Aussies are getting kicked to the curbs.

 

[Tisme]

My point is your statement of supposition that I had not been in the USA .. I was there in 2012 OK...Are you satisfied now or do you need some proof?

Well I didn't think visiting the USA was of import,my guess was you were trying to draw comparisons between SE Asia and the USA. It was my mistake to find out you were merely making light of travelling to the American nation, not at all trying to disparage the Asian ways.

 

[noco]

Well I didn't think visiting the USA was of import,my guess was you were trying to draw comparisons between SE Asia and the USA. It was my mistake to find out you were merely making light of travelling to the American nation, not at all trying to disparage the Asian ways.

You just have no idea have you?.....The USA and SE Asia are totally different as I am sure you are aware.

You are just being difficult in your usual manner....Some would say it could be a smart a$$ comment.

 

[Tisme]

You just have no idea have you?.....The USA and SE Asia are totally different as I am sure you are aware.

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But that's not what you said in any post, you insisted it was about you going to the USA and now you are trolling with a different hook.

Does all over the place like a mad woman's underpants sound appropriate?

 

[noco]

But that's not what you said in any post, you insisted it was about you going to the USA and now you are trolling with a different hook.

Does all over the place like a mad woman's underpants sound appropriate?

I don't really know what in the hell you are going on about......It does not make any sense.

Your persistent ridicule will not silence me sport.

 

[qldfrog]

And during that time, we do forget about the knife attack in Ohio by a "role model migrants", are not aware of the 5 arrests last week in France of another bunch of terrorists who already had their automatic assault weapns ready, sleep sleep .....

 

[Tisme]

I don't really know what in the hell you are going on about......It does not make any sense.

Your persistent ridicule will not silence me sport.

Oh come on... really? What next a blue face, tartan skirt and "Freeeeedom"

 

[dutchie]

Charming religion, charming parents.

A last kiss for mama: Jihadi parents bid young daughters goodbye... before one walks into a Damascus police station and is blown up by remote detonator

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-blown-remote-detonator.html#ixzz4TWiN8MqZ

 

[Tisme]

Charming religion, charming parents.

A last kiss for mama: Jihadi parents bid young daughters goodbye... before one walks into a Damascus police station and is blown up by remote detonator

On one video, the mother repeatedly hugs the seven-year-old, named as Islam, and the older girl, named as Fatima.

A man behind the camera asks the woman why she is sending her daughters to jihad when they are so young.

She replies that 'no one is young when it comes to jihad as every Muslim is supposed to participate in jihad.'

And people suggest they are undesirable !!

 

[Tisme]

Lets hope there is some public flogging and humiliation of the 5 dickheads who were caught getting ready to bomb Melbourne's Fed Sq, St Pauls and Flinders St Station on Xmas day. Then lock em up for absolute life.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Lets hope there is some public flogging and humiliation of the 5 dickheads who were caught getting ready to bomb Melbourne's Fed Sq, St Pauls and Flinders St Station on Xmas day. Then lock em up for absolute life.

Thankfully the Feds. are watching these would be killers and snuffed 'em out beforehand. Yes life sentence for planned mass killings.

 

[dutchie]

Treason's Greetings: Seven Islamic terror suspects arrested over evil plan to bomb Melbourne's Federation Square, Flinders Street station and St Paul's Cathedral on Christmas Day

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-concerns-community-safety.html#ixzz4TchcZhL0



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