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Counter-terrorism police arrested a 16-year-old boy in Auburn, Sydney, on Sunday night, charging him with planning a terrorist act.
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Make sure the grocery buyer in your household reads this.

There should be more leading Australians like Dick, he gets to the bottom of important issues and anything that amounts to selling out Australia is very important.


A WARNING FROM DICK SMITH:
You may be aware that " Dick Smith " chain franchise stores are being pressured by the Islamic Council of Australia to gain 'Halal Certification' otherwise they will be proscribed and banned from Muslim custom.

This is their response:

A MESSAGE FROM DICK SMITH.
"We at Dick Smith 's have received a number of letters from people asking if we will be putting the Muslim Halal logo on our food.

To acquire Halal certification, payment is required to the endorsing body (the Islamic Council) and involves a number of site inspections of both our growers and processors in order to ensure that our practices comply with the conditions of Halal certification.

It is important to note that this does not reflect the quality of the food being processed or sold – it only means that the products are approved as being prepared in accordance with the traditions of the Muslim faith.

We are aware of an increasing number of large companies both in Australia and overseas, such as Kraft and Cadbury, who have obtained accreditation to use the Halal logo. We don’t believe they have done this because of any religious commitment but rather for purely commercial reasons.

Perhaps these large organizations can afford to do this.

While we have a choice however, we would prefer to avoid unnecessarily increasing the cost of our products in order to pay for Halal accreditation when this money would be better spent continuing to support important charitable causes where assistance is greatly needed.

We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organization for the right to do so.
Others would add that money paid to ANY Muslim 'organization' (and you had better believe it: these people ARE 'organized') can easily find its way into the hands of Islamic extremist-fanatics and murderers, irrespective of assurances to the contrary.

What other assurances do we accept from Muslims? Oh, that's right, 'Islam is a religion of PEACE'! How less Australian can companies get, than to place money into the hands of those who seek to exploit us?"

This is an example of how the leaders of Muslims in Aus./NZ. are bullying large commercial organizations (especially in the food industry) into paying what is no more than blatant extortion money. The amazing part is that these weak-kneed organizations (Cadbury/ Schweppes/ Nestles/ Kraft etc.) actually pay the large sums demanded by these self-appointed religious bureaucrats.

Of course, the manufacturers promptly pass this levy on to unwitting consumers as cost increases. Next time you buy a block of Cadbury's chocolate, look for the Halal Certification seal on the wrapper. So, regardless of your own religious faith, you end up subsidizing Islam.
The Council also controls the Muslim voter bloc which, as yet, does not have sufficient critical mass to make a difference - but give them time.

Several state jurisdictions are under pressure to adopt or permit Sharia Law in Marriage, Family and Property matters and some, under the delusion that they are being progressively liberal, are permitting this. This has already happened in some local authorities in the U.K. Google the U.K. Education Department's current investigation into the conduct of Muslim-run schools in the Birmingham area of England.

How many more warnings do people need?
Check the produce on the shelf and don't buy anything Muslim extorted.

THANK YOU FOR READING THIS RIGHT THROUGH TO THE END.


You'll forward, yes?


 
noco said:
Make sure the grocery buyer in your household reads this.

There should be more leading Australians like Dick, he gets to the bottom of important issues and anything that amounts to selling out Australia is very important.


A WARNING FROM DICK SMITH:
You may be aware that " Dick Smith " chain franchise stores are being pressured by the Islamic Council of Australia to gain 'Halal Certification' otherwise they will be proscribed and banned from Muslim custom.

This is their response:

A MESSAGE FROM DICK SMITH.
"We at Dick Smith 's have received a number of letters from people asking if we will be putting the Muslim Halal logo on our food.

To acquire Halal certification, payment is required to the endorsing body (the Islamic Council) and involves a number of site inspections of both our growers and processors in order to ensure that our practices comply with the conditions of Halal certification.

It is important to note that this does not reflect the quality of the food being processed or sold – it only means that the products are approved as being prepared in accordance with the traditions of the Muslim faith.

We are aware of an increasing number of large companies both in Australia and overseas, such as Kraft and Cadbury, who have obtained accreditation to use the Halal logo. We don’t believe they have done this because of any religious commitment but rather for purely commercial reasons.

Perhaps these large organizations can afford to do this.

While we have a choice however, we would prefer to avoid unnecessarily increasing the cost of our products in order to pay for Halal accreditation when this money would be better spent continuing to support important charitable causes where assistance is greatly needed.

We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organization for the right to do so.
Others would add that money paid to ANY Muslim 'organization' (and you had better believe it: these people ARE 'organized') can easily find its way into the hands of Islamic extremist-fanatics and murderers, irrespective of assurances to the contrary.

What other assurances do we accept from Muslims? Oh, that's right, 'Islam is a religion of PEACE'! How less Australian can companies get, than to place money into the hands of those who seek to exploit us?"

This is an example of how the leaders of Muslims in Aus./NZ. are bullying large commercial organizations (especially in the food industry) into paying what is no more than blatant extortion money. The amazing part is that these weak-kneed organizations (Cadbury/ Schweppes/ Nestles/ Kraft etc.) actually pay the large sums demanded by these self-appointed religious bureaucrats.

Of course, the manufacturers promptly pass this levy on to unwitting consumers as cost increases. Next time you buy a block of Cadbury's chocolate, look for the Halal Certification seal on the wrapper. So, regardless of your own religious faith, you end up subsidizing Islam.
The Council also controls the Muslim voter bloc which, as yet, does not have sufficient critical mass to make a difference - but give them time.

Several state jurisdictions are under pressure to adopt or permit Sharia Law in Marriage, Family and Property matters and some, under the delusion that they are being progressively liberal, are permitting this. This has already happened in some local authorities in the U.K. Google the U.K. Education Department's current investigation into the conduct of Muslim-run schools in the Birmingham area of England.

How many more warnings do people need?
Check the produce on the shelf and don't buy anything Muslim extorted.

THANK YOU FOR READING THIS RIGHT THROUGH TO THE END.


You'll forward, yes?
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Noco, I am almost certain you posted that before and were informed at the time that it was a hoax.


http://www.hoax-slayer.com/message-false-quote-dick-smith-halal-certification.shtml
 
bellenuit said:
Noco, I am almost certain you posted that before and were informed at the time that it was a hoax.


http://www.hoax-slayer.com/message-false-quote-dick-smith-halal-certification.shtml
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Whist your contradiction of Dick Smith statement may be true, nobody can deny the fact that this Halal certification imposed upon other large companies is not true....I just don't understand why large companies fall for this BS.

I would like to know how much the Islamic movement is gaining from this and how much is going overseas to aid terrorists?

It makes me angry when I hear of these requests by immigrants who have been befriended by the Australian people and who want special rules, regulations and laws to suit their religious/political beliefs....It never happened with immigrants outside the Islamic movement since WW11....The English, German and Italian migrates accepted our rules, laws and way of life and so should the Muslims.
 
noco said:
Whist your contradiction of Dick Smith statement may be true, nobody can deny the fact that this Halal certification imposed upon other large companies is not true....I just don't understand why large companies fall for this BS.

I would like to know how much the Islamic movement is gaining from this and how much is going overseas to aid terrorists?

It makes me angry when I hear of these requests by immigrants who have been befriended by the Australian people and who want special rules, regulations and laws to suit their religious/political beliefs....It never happened with immigrants outside the Islamic movement since WW11....The English, German and Italian migrates accepted our rules, laws and way of life and so should the Muslims.
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Is Halal certification an imposition? Or is it an invitation to treat?
 
SirRumpole said:
It's a money making superstition.
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Many muslims will likely hold a different opinion to you on this. Have you heard the expression "The customer's always right!" ?

When talking about the making of money, it is possible to view this from a purely business perspective.

It seems likely that market share, within the food industry, may be increased by accommodating this particular muslim custom.
 
cynic said:
Many muslims will likely hold a different opinion to you on this. Have you heard the expression "The customer's always right!" ?

When talking about the making of money, it is possible to view this from a purely business perspective.

It seems likely that market share, within the food industry, may be increased by accommodating this particular muslim custom.
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I'm sure it is a business opportunity for some; ie access to larger markets, but what it comes down to is bribery for some certification that does not affect the quality of food in any way but simply panders to religious superstition.

We are also subsidising the spread of a potentially dangerous theocracy whose rule most of us would not want to live under, and there is no certainty that some of the bribe money won't go to nefarious activities either in this country or elsewhere.

I can see why people would want to boycott this type of extortion.
 
SirRumpole said:
I'm sure it is a business opportunity for some; ie access to larger markets, but what it comes down to is bribery for some certification that does not affect the quality of food in any way but simply panders to religious superstition.

We are also subsidising the spread of a potentially dangerous theocracy whose rule most of us would not want to live under, and there is no certainty that some of the bribe money won't go to nefarious activities either in this country or elsewhere.

I can see why people would want to boycott this type of extortion.
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Money speaks most languages! If enough consumers boycott Halal certification in favour of non certified products, then business may find itself, once again, compelled to respond to the desires of the customer.

My personal religion neither demands nor precludes the consumption of Halal food. So I don't perceive a need to endorse or boycott sensible businesses doing what sensible businesses do!
 
Maccas pay Halal Certification Fees & Charges!

One of our Members
tells us his experience at Maccas...
”I had to pick something up from Grays Online at Lidcombe yesterday and on the way back we called into Maccas on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Silverwater Rd.
I got a Quarter Pounder and Erica got some Crispy Chicken, BLT Burger (Bacon, Lettuce, Tomato) The crispy was some rectangular things like corn chips but her bacon was cold and sort of pale and watery.
When she questioned it at the counter and said the bacon should be cooked and a bit crispy, she was informed that they now do the bacon in the microwave because if they put it on the grill it would contaminate the other meats and they would lose their HALAL Certification.”

She then said,
"So I can't have it how we have eaten it all our lives because this minority say it offends them?"

The only reply was a shrug of the shoulders and a comment that this was a HALAL Store.
It seems that even the mighty Maccas have bowed to the Muslim Halal Beast.
So next time you get a burger from Maccas and wonder why the bacon doesn't taste right, you'll know that it was thawed out and heated up in the microwave because it offends less that 3% of the population, (according to Google) and they want to keep their Halal Certification.
I Guess that scratches Maccas off my food list. Maybe a good thing and I'll lose some weight.
Feel free to forward this to whoever you want.”
 
noco said:
Maccas pay Halal Certification Fees & Charges!

One of our Members
tells us his experience at Maccas...
”I had to pick something up from Grays Online at Lidcombe yesterday and on the way back we called into Maccas on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Silverwater Rd.
I got a Quarter Pounder and Erica got some Crispy Chicken, BLT Burger (Bacon, Lettuce, Tomato) The crispy was some rectangular things like corn chips but her bacon was cold and sort of pale and watery.
When she questioned it at the counter and said the bacon should be cooked and a bit crispy, she was informed that they now do the bacon in the microwave because if they put it on the grill it would contaminate the other meats and they would lose their HALAL Certification.”

She then said,
"So I can't have it how we have eaten it all our lives because this minority say it offends them?"

The only reply was a shrug of the shoulders and a comment that this was a HALAL Store.
It seems that even the mighty Maccas have bowed to the Muslim Halal Beast.
So next time you get a burger from Maccas and wonder why the bacon doesn't taste right, you'll know that it was thawed out and heated up in the microwave because it offends less that 3% of the population, (according to Google) and they want to keep their Halal Certification.
I Guess that scratches Maccas off my food list. Maybe a good thing and I'll lose some weight.
Feel free to forward this to whoever you want.”
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https://yourquestions.mcdonalds.com.au/questions/5831
 
noco said:
Maccas pay Halal Certification Fees & Charges!

One of our Members
tells us his experience at Maccas...
”I had to pick something up from Grays Online at Lidcombe yesterday and on the way back we called into Maccas on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Silverwater Rd.
I got a Quarter Pounder and Erica got some Crispy Chicken, BLT Burger (Bacon, Lettuce, Tomato) The crispy was some rectangular things like corn chips but her bacon was cold and sort of pale and watery.
When she questioned it at the counter and said the bacon should be cooked and a bit crispy, she was informed that they now do the bacon in the microwave because if they put it on the grill it would contaminate the other meats and they would lose their HALAL Certification.”

She then said,
"So I can't have it how we have eaten it all our lives because this minority say it offends them?"

The only reply was a shrug of the shoulders and a comment that this was a HALAL Store.
It seems that even the mighty Maccas have bowed to the Muslim Halal Beast.
So next time you get a burger from Maccas and wonder why the bacon doesn't taste right, you'll know that it was thawed out and heated up in the microwave because it offends less that 3% of the population, (according to Google) and they want to keep their Halal Certification.
I Guess that scratches Maccas off my food list. Maybe a good thing and I'll lose some weight.
Feel free to forward this to whoever you want.”
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Noco, the simple reason is really this simple, McDonald's wants the revenue associated with a multicultural customer, so they're willing to make the changes that may affect current customers.....they've done the math ;)
 
noco said:
Maccas pay Halal Certification Fees & Charges!

One of our Members
tells us his experience at Maccas...
”I had to pick something up from Grays Online at Lidcombe yesterday and on the way back we called into Maccas on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Silverwater Rd.
I got a Quarter Pounder and Erica got some Crispy Chicken, BLT Burger (Bacon, Lettuce, Tomato) The crispy was some rectangular things like corn chips but her bacon was cold and sort of pale and watery.
When she questioned it at the counter and said the bacon should be cooked and a bit crispy, she was informed that they now do the bacon in the microwave because if they put it on the grill it would contaminate the other meats and they would lose their HALAL Certification.”

She then said,
"So I can't have it how we have eaten it all our lives because this minority say it offends them?"

The only reply was a shrug of the shoulders and a comment that this was a HALAL Store.
It seems that even the mighty Maccas have bowed to the Muslim Halal Beast.
So next time you get a burger from Maccas and wonder why the bacon doesn't taste right, you'll know that it was thawed out and heated up in the microwave because it offends less that 3% of the population, (according to Google) and they want to keep their Halal Certification.
I Guess that scratches Maccas off my food list. Maybe a good thing and I'll lose some weight.
Feel free to forward this to whoever you want.”
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How is that Halal or Islam's fault again?

They simply say to Big Mac that bacon can't be mixed with other Halal certified food. It was Big Mac's fault to then decide how to make that happen. They could get another grill; cook in other ways than the microwave - heck, get a grilled microwave oven for around $500.

Since maccas decided it's cheaper to go cheap, and going heap here mean they get to sell to Muslims and non-Muslims... whose fault is that?


For Islam or Muslims to be intolerant would be their demanding no bacon being served or premise at all. Or within a five mile radius with Arabic blessing or whatever.

Here they're like a vegan health nut going to maccas for the salad options.
 
luutzu said:
How is that Halal or Islam's fault again?

They simply say to Big Mac that bacon can't be mixed with other Halal certified food. It was Big Mac's fault to then decide how to make that happen. They could get another grill; cook in other ways than the microwave - heck, get a grilled microwave oven for around $500.

Since maccas decided it's cheaper to go cheap, and going heap here mean they get to sell to Muslims and non-Muslims... whose fault is that?


For Islam or Muslims to be intolerant would be their demanding no bacon being served or premise at all. Or within a five mile radius with Arabic blessing or whatever.

Here they're like a vegan health nut going to maccas for the salad options.
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The point is that 3% or thereabouts of the population seem to be dictating what the rest of us can eat.

As I never go to MacDonalds it doesn't bother me but the whole Halal thing seems to be extortion based on superstition afaic.
 
SirRumpole said:
The point is that 3% or thereabouts of the population seem to be dictating what the rest of us can eat.

As I never go to MacDonalds it doesn't bother me but the whole Halal thing seems to be extortion based on superstition afaic.
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McDonalds in Sweden. Halal no doubt


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Sweden has died.
 
SirRumpole said:
The point is that 3% or thereabouts of the population seem to be dictating what the rest of us can eat.

As I never go to MacDonalds it doesn't bother me but the whole Halal thing seems to be extortion based on superstition afaic.
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No they don't.

They simply let it be known what they'd buy and won't buy. It's up to businesses what they'd do about it if they want (or do not want) Muslims money.

To blame this on Muslims is like blaming Maccas other short cuts on other people.

Remember a decade or so ago when Hungry Jacks' flame-grilled beef was the rage? Maccas came out with their own "flame grilled" patties too. It then turn out they only use hot iron and flame the lines in.
 
luutzu said:
No they don't.

They simply let it be known what they'd buy and won't buy. It's up to businesses what they'd do about it if they want (or do not want) Muslims money.

To blame this on Muslims is like blaming Maccas other short cuts on other people.

Remember a decade or so ago when Hungry Jacks' flame-grilled beef was the rage? Maccas came out with their own "flame grilled" patties too. It then turn out they only use hot iron and flame the lines in.
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Maccas should open Halal only stores so the Muslims can eat what they want and the rest of us can eat what we want in their Aussie only stores.

Trying to mix the two only upsets people.
 
DB008 said:
McDonalds in Sweden. Halal no doubt




Sweden has died.
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McDonalds' is American or Aussies? Or Swedish?

It's a multinational burger chain trying to suit the tastes of every people on every country - and Muslims is one of those people they try to make money out off.

So before we get carried away with patriotic fervour for Maccas ruining our national diet... you know, they do offer the Aussie Burger now and then - complete with the option to have it with or without beetroot.
 

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