Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[luutzu]

so just in case our PC media forget to mention those: this morning:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...rdon-off-central-station-20170620-gwv5pj.html
and yesterday Champ Elysees:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ees-France-police-shopping-palace-latest-news
interesting note in the Paris case: as usual the guy was listed and followed yet had a legal recently renewed guns license which included a kalachnikov (sp?).There was a huge orange smoke cloud so far unexplained when he tried to blow up his car.
But all is good.
Sleep well western world.
In an obviously unrelated news: Roma mayor is begging to end sending sea arrival refugees to her town:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40268210
a quarter a million are expected this year in Italy alone.

The media forgot to mention a lot of things. They're quite convenient that way.

I have an idea, it sound stupid and all, but... how about we do not condone or excuse the killing of anyone, by anyone, from anywhere, on any place?

There might be peace then. Stupid politicians can't then go on stage to dismissively talk about starving people (sanctions), wiping their country off the map (to save civilisation) blah blah blah... we good, they bad.

 

[luutzu]

I think that started in the cradle for those victims.

what?

dam it man, a bit too far.

 

[qldfrog]

You should be free to practice whatever religion you want. When it starts infringing on other people's freedoms, or day to day life is when I have a problem.

Fully agree and this is where you quickly discover that islam is incompatible with the above.
Should apply not only to religion

 

[Tisme]

what?

dam it man, a bit too far.

Why's that? You saying their miserable existence is by choice?

 

[qldfrog]

Why's that? You saying their miserable existence is by choice?

Not much of a choice when born in a muslim country or in a muslim community I have to agree..

 

[SirRumpole]

Not much of a choice when born in a muslim country or in a muslim community I have to agree..

If they come here they have a choice to give up their religion, but by that time they are so brainwashed they believe everything their local mullah tells them, reinforced by threats of intimidation and retribution by "The Family" .

 

[Tisme]

If they come here they have a choice to give up their religion, but by that time they are so brainwashed they believe everything their local mullah tells them, reinforced by threats of intimidation and retribution by "The Family" .

Yes at least the migrant e.g. Roman Catholics who came here and managed to shake off their inculcation only faced a silly excommunication penalty. With Muslims it appears death isn't out of the question.

 

[luutzu]

Why's that? You saying their miserable existence is by choice?

If by miserable existence you're referring to the colonised Muslims, then no, it's not by choice. Does any colony or savages ever have a choice in being butchered and enslaved?

If by miserable existence you mean the backward, superstitious and terror-breeding religion they're born into... yea, maybe they do have a choice to not follow the extremes and literal interpretation. Just like how most followers of other religion can have a choice to not follow their equally barbaric, backward and idiotic religion.

People goes to their place of worship, minding their own business, walked home when some crazy idiot mowed them down. Yet somehow Islam is at fault?

I guess it's a good thing the victors get to write their version of history, and common idiots swallow it like the words of the Bible.

 

[luutzu]

If they come here they have a choice to give up their religion, but by that time they are so brainwashed they believe everything their local mullah tells them, reinforced by threats of intimidation and retribution by "The Family" .

When's the last time any Muslim ever come up to you, or anyone you know, and ask you to convert to Islam?

Know how many times Catholics wanted to convert me to their God?

I don't know where you get that image of Muslims from, but sometime people just want to turn up to their Mosques and socialised, pray for good health and maybe even world peace. You know, a world where parents don't have to worry about their daughter walking back from school and have some idiot on a motobike smash her head in because she wear a Muslim scarf. Or one where not every major powers in the world meet on their native homeland to duke it out and see what's left to grab during and after entire cities are flattened.

 

[SirRumpole]

When's the last time any Muslim ever come up to you, or anyone you know, and ask you to convert to Islam?

Converting others is not the point. Maintaining their flock by intimidation and threats of apostacy , the punishment for which is death is their way of ensuring that the poor unfortunates who get born into Muslim families stay Muslim so that the tribe increases.

 

[luutzu]

Converting others is not the point. Maintaining their flock by intimidation and threats of apostacy , the punishment for which is death is their way of ensuring that the poor unfortunates who get born into Muslim families stay Muslim so that the tribe increases.

Talk about moving the goal post. So preaching to your faithful to go out there, recruit "lost sheep", that's not the point. Point is if it's Muslim doing it.

Honestly, I don't even think these apostasy rubbish is even true. I assume it's true because there are religious nutjobs out there who take any questioning or abandonment of "their" religion as a personal insult, but to say that Islam is especially evil because that's what it preaches and that's what all its 1.5 billion follower would do... just rubbish.

Just look at that al Hisi, or whatever her name was... a lying social climber playing on Westerner's stereotypes of Muslims.

Anyway...

 

[SirRumpole]

Honestly, I don't even think these apostasy rubbish is even true.

Open your eyes man...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4350328/Hizb-Ut-Tahrir-leader-Ex-Muslims-death.html

 

[luutzu]

Open your eyes man...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4350328/Hizb-Ut-Tahrir-leader-Ex-Muslims-death.html

Yea, big deal. There are idiot Muslims around, there are Koran bashers. Christians are all saints?

Have you watch any Evangelical preachers on TV in the US? Jerry Falwell etc etc. They make these idiots look like amateurs.

Again, those Muslims was minding their own business, on their way home from prayers when they got mowed down. And here we are... talking about Muslims and Islam being evil.

I even read some comments over the internet where people crack jokes about serving them right for always praying on the street. But I guess those racists aren't White, do not have Western Value, and definitely not Christian. Right?

 

[SirRumpole]

Yea, big deal. There are idiot Muslims around, there are Koran bashers.

Just one idiot ? How many others ? People not so public but who suck on this guys words and think it's their duty to carry out what he says. That's how they eliminate criticism because ordinary Muslims are dead scared of idiots like this.

 

[luutzu]

Just one idiot ? How many others ? People not so public but who suck on this guys words and think it's their duty to carry out what he says. That's how they eliminate criticism because ordinary Muslims are dead scared of idiots like this.

Pretty sure I used plural.

Man, to think that Muslims would all listen to stupid, criminal, warmongering stuff... then actually carry it out, or else! That's nuts. There might be some, there are always some... I mean, Trump does have people who actually admire and love him, so does Clinton, so does Obama... why? How? Who the heck knows.

Does White Americans all follow Trump and his examples? Clinton's? The Pope's? Heck, the majority of Christians don't even pay any attention to Jesus' teaching, unless it's convenient with what they wanted to do anyway.

Feed the poor; Let those without sin cast the first stone; Love thy neighbour as thyself; Don't freaking commit genocide by claiming it's me telling you to convert them savages etc. etc. Meehhhh. He didn't really mean that.

 

[SirRumpole]

Man, to think that Muslims would all...

Of course not all Muslims listen to the loonies, but it only takes a small number to keep people terrified that the harmless guy they meet at the Kebab shop will actually kill them for betraying Islam.

 

[luutzu]

Of course not all Muslims listen to the loonies, but it only takes a small number to keep people terrified that the harmless guy they meet at the Kebab shop will actually kill them for betraying Islam.

I can't imagine any religious nut would ever eat at a Kebab shop. Those stuff might be Halal certified, but they ain't Halal. And don't ever order chicken kebab. They're either too burnt or too raw.

On a more serious note... Islamic terrorists are real, but they're not all the same. There are some real nutjob psychos among them, some get to that state from being bombed all these years, and some just need a job.

Just because to most of us infidels they're all the same does not mean they are. I mean if we believe what's in the news, ISIS is spreading and popping up all over the world, whereever there's some Muslims doing horrible stuff. We've learnt from the Cold War that not all terrorists and third-world guerrilla fighters are Soviet, commie backed right? That not all Eastern Block uprising are funded or started by the CIA either.

Keep believing these ISIS, Islam stuff and pretty soon, if countries like Vietnam will find itself full of ISIS and Muslims fighters threatening both the US and China that they have to step in and liberate the place, again.

 

[Tisme]

Of course not all Muslims listen to the loonies, .

That's a leap of faith right there

 

[Tisme]

. There are some real nutjob psychos among them, some get to that state from being bombed all these years, and some just need a job.

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Which very true (psychos) for most societies and eventually those bogeymen are going to have a crack back with extreme prejudice. The difference is that the most dangerous nutjobs are the natural born ones who aren't responding to e.g. "being bombed", but take pleasure in an excuse to hand out punishment for the sake of it..... you know like Nazis and English soccer fans.

 

[SirRumpole]

Which very true (psychos) for most societies and eventually those bogeymen are going to have a crack back with extreme prejudice. The difference is that the most dangerous nutjobs are the natural born ones who aren't responding to e.g. "being bombed", but take pleasure in an excuse to hand out punishment for the sake of it..... you know like Nazis and English soccer fans.

Yes, and a lot of them seem to be educated and relatively well off, so why they succumb to this pernicious ideology is even more bizarre. They are generally the ones who are smart enough not to want to blow themselves up but build bombs and get delight in others being blown up.