Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[moXJO]

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Reap what you sow. People were warning what would happen.
How many billions is it costing them to watch all the potentials?
Each one will generally have another 8 kids who hate western society.
Europe is a basket case in this regard.

The horse has already bolted because they were too gutless to have a rational discussion for fear of being branded "bigots".
How much is it costing each nation on such a small % ?

 

[noco]

The truth about Waleed Aly.

 

[dutchie]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ychiatrist-worried-terror-apologists-ABC.html

'Australia needs to stop worrying about Islamophobia': Muslim psychiatrist says 'moderate' activists downplaying Islam's links to terrorism are fuelling extremism in teenagers

• Bangladeshi-born psychiatrist says the ABC is too focused on Islamophobia

• Tanveer Ahmed says too many Muslim voices downplay Islam-terrorism link

• The former SBS journalist says the Muslim victim message is very unhelpful

A Bangladeshi-born psychiatrist says the ABC plays a role in radicalising young Muslim teenagers by over emphasising how they are victims of discrimination.

Tanveer Ahmed, a cultural Muslim who moved to Australia when he was six, says the national broadcaster's obsession with perceived Islamophobia was often counterproductive.

'Often the voices they reach for reinforce that because their first instinct is to quell so-called Islamophobia,'

'It keeps feeding the message that none of it is their fault, that the West is in fact against them.

'It's inaccurate and doesn't get to the source of the problem. It keeps feeding grievance, it keeps feeding this idea of Muslim grievance so in that respect it's part of the problem.

'Terrorism is, at its heart, a conflation of personal resentments with a political ideology of resentment which Islamism is.'

 

[Tisme]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ychiatrist-worried-terror-apologists-ABC.html

'Australia needs to stop worrying about Islamophobia': Muslim psychiatrist says 'moderate' activists downplaying Islam's links to terrorism are fuelling extremism in teenagers

• Bangladeshi-born psychiatrist says the ABC is too focused on Islamophobia

• Tanveer Ahmed says too many Muslim voices downplay Islam-terrorism link

• The former SBS journalist says the Muslim victim message is very unhelpful

A Bangladeshi-born psychiatrist says the ABC plays a role in radicalising young Muslim teenagers by over emphasising how they are victims of discrimination.

Tanveer Ahmed, a cultural Muslim who moved to Australia when he was six, says the national broadcaster's obsession with perceived Islamophobia was often counterproductive.

'Often the voices they reach for reinforce that because their first instinct is to quell so-called Islamophobia,'

'It keeps feeding the message that none of it is their fault, that the West is in fact against them.

'It's inaccurate and doesn't get to the source of the problem. It keeps feeding grievance, it keeps feeding this idea of Muslim grievance so in that respect it's part of the problem.

'Terrorism is, at its heart, a conflation of personal resentments with a political ideology of resentment which Islamism is.'

I think we all know that Islam is a flavour of the month totem for people who have no ambition to cultivate themselves and enrich society...it's much easier to use the law of the jungle as excuse to commit atrocious acts than the discomfort of having to abide by the rule of (civilised) law.

 

[dutchie]

Finally a politician, other than Trump, sees the light.

PM vows to rip up human rights laws in war on terror as she vows to extend sentences, kick foreign suspects out of UK and crack down on extremists even if they can't be brought before the courts

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...does-face-questions-London-Bridge-killer.html

Hope she is not just talk.

Hope other politicians follow her lead.

Stop all immigration of muslims!!!

 

[Tisme]

Stop all immigration of muslims!!!

I don't really agree with that, but taking in the strain of people who have only ever known savagery and barbarism, which happens to be endorsed by a religion foisted and inculcated on them from birth does imply a stop signal at the border IMO.

Of course we could always use the same methods Muslims did to increase the flock = become secular OR ELSE! (Russia,China)

 

[Tisme]

Here you go:

https://twitter.com/Matt_VanDyke?lang=en

 

[noco]

https://www.votocrat.com/susane.lis...lamic-refugees-australia-needs-to-do-the-same

 

[dutchie]

The chances of integrating muslims into western culture is zero. No matter how nice and accommadating we are.

The ultimate disgrace: Saudi Arabian player TIES HIS SHOELACE as team mates ignore minute's silence for the Australian victims of the London terror attacks (but they still kneel to pray after a goal)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-player-ties-shoelace-minute-s-silence.html

Disgusting.

 

[Tisme]

Hacker spams ISIS twitter account with gay pron

http://www.anonews.co/anon-hacks-twitter/

 

[basilio]

Nice to know that following the religious practice of Ramadan and caring for your neighbours is a big deal with Muslims.

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London tower block fire: Awake for Ramadan meal, young Muslims save residents

• James Lemon

1,102 reading now
Footage shows people inside London building inferno
"It's like something from the f**king Second World War": Videos obtained by Fairfax Media show residents inside the 24-storey Grenfell Tower as it was engulfed by flames.

Muslim residents of London's Grenfell Tower, who were awake during the night because they were observing Ramadan, helped save lives after a deadly fire tore through the block early on Wednesday, witnesses said.

A local woman told a gathering outside the block that more people would have died if not for the actions of a number of Muslim boys.



She said the boys knocked on doors, yelling in an attempt to alert residents in the absence of fire alarms.

"If it wasn't for all these young Muslims, young boys round here - coming from mosques ... people would have [died]. A lot more people would have [died]," she said.

"People want to talk about them when they do wrong, and all this sort of thing, when they're doing bad - but when they're doing good ...

"They were the first people with bags of water, giving to people and helping people - running and telling people."

During the fasting month of Ramadan, Muslims do not eat during daylight, instead staying up late and getting up early to do so.

Another resident told HuffPost UK that young Muslims made the difference for a number of sleeping families, with the blaze breaking out at the west London tower block just after 1.15am.

"Muslim boys saved people's lives. They ran around knocking on people's doors," she said. "Thank God for Ramadan."

HuffPost UK spoke to Khalid Suleman Ahmed, 20, who moved to the eighth floor of Grenfell Tower not long ago.

He said he had stayed up to eat before daylight fasting began about 4.45am.

"No fire alarms went off and there were no warning. I was playing PlayStation waiting to eat suhur [the meal that begins the fast] then smelt smoke.

"I got up and looked out of my window and saw the seventh floor smoking," he said.

"I woke my auntie up, then got clothes on and started knocking on neighbours' doors. Every house opened except two - I saw the other guy later on so only one family unaccounted for. My next door neighbour was fast asleep.

"I would be up this late on a Friday night possibly but never a random midweek night unless it was Ramadan.

"There are a lot of Muslims living there and people choose up to stay up and wait so it was certainly a factor for me and others. It probably did save lives.

"The whole corridor went black with thick smoke. I didn't think it was serious at all. Me and my auntie thought it was an isolated incident but we'd just evacuate just to be safe.

"When we went out and were taken by the firemen to a safer place then we saw that it still hadn't reached our house - 20 minutes or so later our house was gone.

"The firefighters were very quick. They immediately started work."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...aming-london-tower-block-20170614-gwrelg.html

 

[luutzu]

Nice to know that following the religious practice of Ramadan and caring for your neighbours is a big deal with Muslims.

__________________________________________________________________

London tower block fire: Awake for Ramadan meal, young Muslims save residents

• James Lemon

1,102 reading now
Footage shows people inside London building inferno
"It's like something from the f**king Second World War": Videos obtained by Fairfax Media show residents inside the 24-storey Grenfell Tower as it was engulfed by flames.

Muslim residents of London's Grenfell Tower, who were awake during the night because they were observing Ramadan, helped save lives after a deadly fire tore through the block early on Wednesday, witnesses said.

A local woman told a gathering outside the block that more people would have died if not for the actions of a number of Muslim boys.



She said the boys knocked on doors, yelling in an attempt to alert residents in the absence of fire alarms.

"If it wasn't for all these young Muslims, young boys round here - coming from mosques ... people would have [died]. A lot more people would have [died]," she said.

"People want to talk about them when they do wrong, and all this sort of thing, when they're doing bad - but when they're doing good ...

"They were the first people with bags of water, giving to people and helping people - running and telling people."

During the fasting month of Ramadan, Muslims do not eat during daylight, instead staying up late and getting up early to do so.

Another resident told HuffPost UK that young Muslims made the difference for a number of sleeping families, with the blaze breaking out at the west London tower block just after 1.15am.

"Muslim boys saved people's lives. They ran around knocking on people's doors," she said. "Thank God for Ramadan."

HuffPost UK spoke to Khalid Suleman Ahmed, 20, who moved to the eighth floor of Grenfell Tower not long ago.

He said he had stayed up to eat before daylight fasting began about 4.45am.

"No fire alarms went off and there were no warning. I was playing PlayStation waiting to eat suhur [the meal that begins the fast] then smelt smoke.

"I got up and looked out of my window and saw the seventh floor smoking," he said.

"I woke my auntie up, then got clothes on and started knocking on neighbours' doors. Every house opened except two - I saw the other guy later on so only one family unaccounted for. My next door neighbour was fast asleep.

"I would be up this late on a Friday night possibly but never a random midweek night unless it was Ramadan.

"There are a lot of Muslims living there and people choose up to stay up and wait so it was certainly a factor for me and others. It probably did save lives.

"The whole corridor went black with thick smoke. I didn't think it was serious at all. Me and my auntie thought it was an isolated incident but we'd just evacuate just to be safe.

"When we went out and were taken by the firemen to a safer place then we saw that it still hadn't reached our house - 20 minutes or so later our house was gone.

"The firefighters were very quick. They immediately started work."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...aming-london-tower-block-20170614-gwrelg.html

It better not turn out later that some Ramadan activity by some Muslim set off the fire.

Muslims staying up late happen to save life is mehhh... Muslim staying up late and their candle or whatever cause the fire, it's Islam's evil fault.

 

[basilio]

It better not turn out later that some Ramadan activity by some Muslim set off the fire.

Muslims staying up late happen to save life is mehhh... Muslim staying up late and their candle or whatever cause the fire, it's Islam's evil fault.

That would be sad... Doesn't even have to be true of course. I suggest that just merely hinting at the possibility of such a situation is enough at the moment to set off the mob.
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Obviously too early to say how the fire was caused yet but some electrical fault seems the most likely culprit. There's plenty of form in the towers in that direction and with over 100 units and refurbishments that wouldn't have addressed core infrastructure issues like power supplies, the risk of dodgy circuitry and dodgy electrical appliances is the most likely prob.

On that note I remember that the huge fire in Melbourne that destroyed the historic Ivanhoe RSL was started by a faulty ceiling fan.

 

[luutzu]

That would be sad... Doesn't even have to be true of course. I suggest that just merely hinting at the possibility of such a situation is enough at the moment to set off the mob.
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Obviously too early to say how the fire was caused yet but some electrical fault seems the most likely culprit. There's plenty of form in the towers in that direction and with over 100 units and refurbishments that wouldn't have addressed core infrastructure issues like power supplies, the risk of dodgy circuitry and dodgy electrical appliances is the most likely prob.

On that note I remember that the huge fire in Melbourne that destroyed the historic Ivanhoe RSL was started by a faulty ceiling fan.

Just a spark ey.

My in laws had their ceiling lining fixed and a tradie, whom I know and hired, just started joining wires like it doesn't matter what wire goes with what He'd since contract out a proper electrician for all his wiring.

Speaking of spark... some republican supporter in the US went on a shooting rampage at some politicians charity baseball event.

Just heard that the US Student Loan is around $1.7trillion. Obama tried to help "the students" out by using billions of taxpayers money to pay the lenders and debt collectors for those students too poor to ever pay.

Then there's Paul Ryan wanting to repeal banking regulations "for small and struggling businesses", American consumers... and no doubt for freedom and democracy.

 

[basilio]

Latest terrorist strike in London
Man hires van and runs down Muslim coming out mosque after prayers.

So what happened next ?


Imam praised for protecting Finsbury Park suspect from crowd
Three men who restrained suspect say Mohammed Mahmoud helped calm angry bystanders after van attack near mosque

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Three men who say they helped to restrain the suspect in the attack near a north London mosque have praised an imam who urged the crowd not to do him any harm.

After a van ploughed into a group of people in Finsbury Park, members of the public wrestled the suspect to the ground. An imam from the Muslim Welfare House then urged the crowd to remain calm.

“The imam came from the mosque and he said, ‘Listen we are fasting, this is Ramadan, we are not supposed to do these kinds of things so please step back,’” said Mohammed, one of three men who held the suspect down.

“For that reason this guy is still alive today,” added Mohammed, a 29-year-old cafe owner. “This is the only reason. If the imam was not there he wouldn’t be there today.”

The imam was named by the Muslim Welfare House as Mohammed Mahmoud. In a statement Toufik Kacimi, the mosque and welfare centre’s chief executive, praised Mahmoud’s bravery which he said “helped calm the immediate situation after the incident and prevented further injuries and potential loss of life”.

Footage from mobile phones at the scene when the man was being held on the ground captures the voice of a man shouting: “No one touch him – no one! No one!”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...r-protecting-finsbury-park-suspect-from-crowd

 

[moXJO]

Idiots killing innocent people. Seems this horrific fad of driving into people is catching on with all the mentally deranged.
This guy should be charged under terrorism.

 

[qldfrog]

Idiots killing innocent people. Seems this horrific fad of driving into people is catching on with all the mentally deranged.
This guy should be charged under terrorism.

Hum what? people fighting back? The only surprise is how long it took, which says a lot of the judeo christian culture vs the muslim one in my opinion
How dare he..using the same weapon? What next? An eye for an eye?..but not savage enough to be able to slice throats after.
For info as it seems some of our media did not even mention it (Brisbane times web has not a single line on this), another islamist tried to ram and bomb a convoy of police this morning in Champ Elysees with a car ladden with gas bottles.Was killed on the spot.I have to acknowledge the ABC did release the information.So surprised kudos

 

[qldfrog]

so just in case our PC media forget to mention those: this morning:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...rdon-off-central-station-20170620-gwv5pj.html
and yesterday Champ Elysees:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ees-France-police-shopping-palace-latest-news
interesting note in the Paris case: as usual the guy was listed and followed yet had a legal recently renewed guns license which included a kalachnikov (sp?).There was a huge orange smoke cloud so far unexplained when he tried to blow up his car.
But all is good.
Sleep well western world.
In an obviously unrelated news: Roma mayor is begging to end sending sea arrival refugees to her town:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40268210
a quarter a million are expected this year in Italy alone.

 

[moXJO]

Hum what? people fighting back? The only surprise is how long it took, which says a lot of the judeo christian culture vs the muslim one in my opinion
How dare he..using the same weapon? What next? An eye for an eye?..but not savage enough to be able to slice throats after.
For info as it seems some of our media did not even mention it (Brisbane times web has not a single line on this), another islamist tried to ram and bomb a convoy of police this morning in Champ Elysees with a car ladden with gas bottles.Was killed on the spot.I have to acknowledge the ABC did release the information.So surprised kudos

Slowing migration is one thing, but I don't condone killing of innocent people. This isn't fighting back. It's idiots targeting innocent people.

Ideology should not dismiss someones life as meaningless. Disliking or hating an ideology is one thing. But hating a person because they practice it is wrong on a lot of levels in my eyes.

You should be free to practice whatever religion you want. When it starts infringing on other people's freedoms, or day to day life is when I have a problem.

I'm not surprised it happened, I just think its a waste of life.

 

[Tisme]

, I just think its a waste of life.

I think that started in the cradle for those victims.