Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[Tisme]

Humanity is for pussies. Nothing like dropping 200 tons of explosive freedom on the problem.

Now that's a reply ...I'm still laughing

 

[luutzu]

Sure, agreed there, but it will make no difference if Muslims get to be such a political force that they vote away our freedoms and replace it with their repression, and the only way I can see to prevent this happening is to limit their numbers here.

More Muslims, more political power?

Is that why the majority of (poor) Americans just "voted" for Trump so he would cut some $3.6Trillions over ten years on Medicaid for the poor and pensioners, cut $600B on food stamps so they can go on a diet every second day?

That and have the budget director literally calling these poor plebs "thieves" because apparently the poor are only supposed to pay taxes and get diddly in return for it. Well, maybe the 4th of July fireworks and being told how awesome the country is.

Same thing in Theresa May's Tory platform... stealing from the poor, kick the elderly who dare to get sick and live off of a welfare system they have been paying towards all their working life. Now they get to be sick, have the equity in their house taken out from under them so that once they kick the bucket, their poor working kid who can't afford a house get to enjoy fresh air and beautiful England winter, in the open.

Then of course there's the poor kids... going to bed hungry and currently getting a couple pound's worth of breakfast at school the next day. Forget that soon kids, it's all the Muslim's fault that your government decided to cut corporate tax down to 17.5%, give more tax breaks to the rich.

Similar thing is happening in Australia... you've read the headlines about the latest budget?

Yah, the plebs are losing their country. And it ain't the poor or the Muslims or the refugees.

 

[Tisme]

We never needed laws reducing the number of catholics, to protect ourselves from becoming a Christian theocracy.

Offcourse there is some noisy christians on the side lines always trying to grab power, but the majority of the population won't have it, its the same with the majority of muslims, especially as they become more westernised.

The thread is about Islam. Catholics took a lickin' and we allowed them to keep tickin'.

Unlike Catholics, the next gen of Islam are the ones who are the current problem .... home grown aresholes

 

[Tisme]

There were no laws reducing the number of catholics allowed in the country.

Yes there was. Immigration was regulated back then, don't think otherwise.

 

[wayneL]

Perhaps we should ask, if the poo really hits the propeller, where folks loyalties will lie.

Because Imo, the poo will most assuredly hit the propeller soonish.

 

[DB008]

Stockholm syndrome....

 

[SirRumpole]

Is that why the majority of (poor) Americans just "voted" for Trump so he would cut some $3.6Trillions over ten years on Medicaid for the poor and pensioners, cut $600B on food stamps so they can go on a diet every second day?

What Trump is doing to the US poor and disadvantaged is objectionable, but there is another thread for that if you would like to post there, and you are resorting to your usual "look over there" tactics to distract attention away from the point of this thread, which is a discussion of Islam.

 

[dutchie]

Stop all immigration of muslims.

There is no upside

There is only downside ......

and heartache, like the parents of Saffie Rose Roussos will suffer for the rest of their lives.

 

[Tink]

Off topic --

Well you all must dislike our own country, if you are putting down our Christian heritage.

I will be standing up for the country I grew up in.
Accountability, achievement etc.

No more Political Correctness rubbish.

This is my view.

 

[DB008]

The media is now self censoring.

British born, to parents who were refugees from Liybia, and Islamic, no doubt. ISIS have also claimed responsibility for the attack. If this is how we get our news, without detail, it's all over folks.

1984 territory...

 

[dutchie]

Why should we put up with having to resort to this sometime in the near future..........

Britain on lockdown: Army deploys 1,000 heavily armed soldiers to guard London


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4536602/Buckingham-Palace-military-armed-guard.html

 

[Tisme]

Off topic --

Well you all must dislike our own country, if you are putting down our Christian heritage.

I will be standing up for the country I grew up in.
Accountability, achievement etc.

No more Political Correctness rubbish.

This is my view.

An old fashioned, yet self evidently correct history. It will, of course, be rewritten out of our consciousness over the next few years; faster once Tanya and Penny becomes bosses of the washes in their respective parliamentary houses.

 

[Tisme]

Why should we put up with having to resort to this sometime in the near future..........

Britain on lockdown: Army deploys 1,000 heavily armed soldiers to guard London


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4536602/Buckingham-Palace-military-armed-guard.html

Our protectors will hide around the corner and have long discussions about what to do. The coroner's report on Lindt : http://www.lindtinquest.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/findings-and-recommendations.pdf

 

[SirRumpole]

Our protectors will hide around the corner and have long discussions about what to do. The coroner's report on Lindt : http://www.lindtinquest.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/findings-and-recommendations.pdf

I doubt if they will get another case like Monis again. It appeared he was a lone nutcase, the MO of the terrorists is to strike first and obviate the need for any negotiations.

 

[luutzu]

What Trump is doing to the US poor and disadvantaged is objectionable, but there is another thread for that if you would like to post there, and you are resorting to your usual "look over there" tactics to distract attention away from the point of this thread, which is a discussion of Islam.

It wasn't off topic.

You were saying that once there's enough Muslims in the country, they'll use their votes and turn Australia all Sharia. Something like that, right?

So I pointed to the fact that democracy doesn't work like that. That's why in any democratic (and Christian, even it's technically secular) country where the vast majority of voters are poor and/or working class (they preferred to be call "middle class" even though that's not technically true)... that in any democracy, what the majority wanted never ever get implemented.

The only time real democracy happen was during revolutionary crisis where the elite and ruling class decided that they better give some more crumbs seeing how the plebs are sharpening their pitchforks.

And no, if you want to discuss how Islam and Muslims are evil, you got to understand the context, the history. And maybe, perhaps, that those cast stones shouldn't live in glass houses... or as Jesus once said to the stone throwers... let those without sin cast the first stone.

I mean, if we just focus on the evil and murders committed by Muslims. Then leave it at that. There's not going to be much debate, is there? Might as well have a list of all crimes and terrorism committed by Muslims, ignore those committed by us and friends of ours... well, I guess we could just watch the mainstream media.

 

[luutzu]

Why should we put up with having to resort to this sometime in the near future..........

Britain on lockdown: Army deploys 1,000 heavily armed soldiers to guard London


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4536602/Buckingham-Palace-military-armed-guard.html

That's a very big and expensive version of keeping the lights on. Mommy and Daddy have checked the closet, looked under the bed, now the light's on so all is safe.

I just heard that back before the liberation of Iraq, Tony Blair order British tanks out in the open around Heathrow Airport. Just in case Saddam launches something.

 

[luutzu]

Off topic --

Well you all must dislike our own country, if you are putting down our Christian heritage.

I will be standing up for the country I grew up in.
Accountability, achievement etc.

No more Political Correctness rubbish.

This is my view.

There are certain heritage property that are nice and exemplary. Those should be preserve.

Then there are those that's just old and rundown. That might have been a good or acceptable idea at the time... but have since become dangerous ruins, scaring kids and all that. Remember, we got to save the children, god's beautiful children as the Yellow Emperor would say.

 

[wayneL]

I reckon we should reduce the number of moonbats and other virtue signallers.

A bigger threat imo

 

[luutzu]

I reckon we should reduce the number of moonbats and other virtue signallers.

A bigger threat imo

Know how violence and murder should never be justified? We should apply that rule to both ourselves and to other people.

I have family and know people living in the UK. So if anything, I take terrorism quite seriously too. All these threat levels, pointing to Muslims and blaming Islam, moving homeless people out of the way, checking their bags... wtf?

We're angry and horrified at the indiscriminate killing of our people... but then for some reason, we think they shouldn't be upset when we flatten their homes, overthrow their government, kill their people by the millions, mock their culture, belittle their religion, take their resources... etc. etc.

That's not to excuse violence and murder, just pointing out a fact that when people do that kind of stuff on other people, they might not like it. Might be pretty pizzed off.. .and now and again, one or more of them will resort to act of terrorism on us.

So we either call up our politicians and ask them to work for us; or take their words that all these wars are necessary and ours and other people's lives are worth the sacrifice the warmongers are too willing to make on our behalf.

 

[wayneL]

Relevance, grasshopper?

apart from repeating yourself ad nauseam