Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[luutzu]

Easy to laugh, but actions are being taken against a lot of the "evils" you mentioned (except bikinis which I don't accept is a danger).

On the other hand, Islamic extremism is being downgraded in the name of PC, and "inclusion" which is naive at best.

All religion is mind control, we have to acknowledge that. When people's perceived duty to their "god" overrides their duty to their fellow man, they should be put away.

Bikinis near roads is a real danger. Come on.

Islamic extremism is not downgraded. It, we're told, is the reason for all our emails and communications being spied on and stored for when it's needed to be use against us. It's also why literally trillions of dollars are being spent liberating Muslims from themselves; then trillions more on securities and body scans and cyber spying and data warehousing all over the world.

See, with the threat of Communism to prop up the military industrial complex and expand wars of liberation all over the world... communism eventually collapse on its own.

With this war on Islam, how are you going to end Islamic extremism when you fund and prop up half of it on the one hand, overthrow secular and democratic forces among the Muslims on the other?

Maybe until oil ran out I guess.

 

[luutzu]

I guess you also still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny.

How did God communicate with these creatures he is supposed to have created in 6 days.

Did God come back to Earth in a space ship...Did he use a telephone.....Please give me some answers Luutzu.

You know that I only added minor creative licences to those claims right? The rest are actually what the good books claims to be true.

 

[SirRumpole]

overthrow secular and democratic forces among the Muslims on the other?

What secular and democratic Muslim forces would they be ?

 

[luutzu]

What secular and democratic Muslim forces would they be ?

Pretty much the entire Middle East and Africa during and after WWII.

Like most of the colonised world, the Arabs began fighting for national independence in the chaos of WWI and WWII. Wars that drastically weakened their European masters.

After WWII, the US dominates and set about re-establishing the old colonial order, with certain valuable colonies control by them outright (like Saudi Arabia and most of the ME, for its oil and strategic stranglehold on the Soviets, trade routes from Asia, South and East Asia, Africa etc. into and out of Europe); others they permit their junior partners (like the UK, France) to take a minority stake in.

Certain African colonies they permit the Europeans to retake control. On conditions. Among them is buying US made manufacturing, "leasing" US military bases all over their country etc.

As to the Arabs and ME, the US pretty much take over where the British left off. Picking this or that king and sheikh and dictators as figureheads, ruling as an "Arab fascade". Those Arab leaders who didn't get the memo and start to demand stuff for their own people get replaced. If they're lucky they get to die off in some distant country.

How else do you think the Saudi get to rule Arabia? Or all those gulf states kings get to be king? Why do you think they build all those crazy towers and drive European cars and buy American arms in the hundreds of billions? Most are build with UK/US consultants and engineers. No weapons are China or Russian made.

It's just old fashion imperialism disguised as what all imperialism have been disguised as. For good and noble ideals.

Just watch China's new Silk Road. For peace, trade, prosperity etc. etc.

They forgot to mention that the old Silk Road was established by the Emperor Wu Han. The dude that annex all minor states around China, making the Han a dominant ethnic majority; turning others into vassal states. It's the same road the Mongolians took as they invade the ME and knocking on Europe's gates.

Good thing we got nukes and not afraid to use it. But then they also got nukes, and money. And aren't bogged down liberating all the Arabs.

I wouldn't be surprise if Russia and China haven't been funding certain groups in the ME to keep the West busy (and broke).

 

[MrBurns]

The title of the thread asks the question is Islam evil.
Letting old men marry little girls, women wearing black from head to toe including full face cover, beating wives, multiple marriages. Religious extremism including cruelty and refusing to adopt the culture of the country you have been invited to live in.
I'd say the answer is yes, you'll soil Australia like you do every place you live.

 

[Tisme]

I guess Jesus did kick the money-changers out of his father's temple to make room for capitalists.

Was that a real commercial or one of those Fast-Forward skits?

I think it's real!!!

 

[Tisme]

The title of the thread asks the question is Islam evil.
Letting old men marry little girls, women wearing black from head to toe including full face cover, beating wives, multiple marriages. Religious extremism including cruelty and refusing to adopt the culture of the country you have been invited to live in.
I'd say the answer is yes, you'll soil Australia like you do every place you live.

It's a vulgar reminder of pre industrial mankind when witches, fairies, werewolves, satin, were substituted to explain the mysterious, scare people into obedience, etc. That Islam and any halfwit religious totems for that matter exists these days is an unconscionable abuse of impressionable minds; a miserable poison from cradle to the grave.

Those muslims who do possess skills and scientific nous will only ever be treated as curiosities, Joseph Merricks of the enlightened world and always viewed with suspicion they are closet barbarians willing to skewer anyone when the call from their Mullah demands obedience. Their offspring will be treated with contempt because of their family's insistent indoctrination into Islamic cult worship.

 

[MrBurns]

Christianity has mostly moved with times but Islam is rooted in the past and can't be changed as decreed by Mohammad
So get the hell out of my country and practice your sick religion where it's tolerated. No won't happen as Australia is governed by pathetic weaklings who prefer mindless tolerance over the safety of its citizens

 

[noco]

Christianity has mostly moved with times but Islam is rooted in the past and can't be changed as decreed by Mohammad
So get the hell out of my country and practice your sick religion where it's tolerated. No won't happen as Australia is governed by pathetic weaklings who prefer mindless tolerance over the safety of its citizens

How very true.

 

[luutzu]

Christianity has mostly moved with times but Islam is rooted in the past and can't be changed as decreed by Mohammad
So get the hell out of my country and practice your sick religion where it's tolerated. No won't happen as Australia is governed by pathetic weaklings who prefer mindless tolerance over the safety of its citizens

Religion, Christianity included, has not moved on and progressed. They're the same as they've ever been, just that where they operate are often secular democracies so most of their extremes are pushed aside or ignore by the majority.

That's not to say that Christianity or any religion are all bad. They often do serve the community well... just that being one of the tools of state, from the normal day to day helping of the poor, providing a sense of belonging and a literal almighty father figure... they're used as a weapon for wars whenever the masters got bored.

And no, Australia and Western politicians aren't weak. They're stupid, mostly, but not weak. They created all these hate and fear for Islam and Muslims... all as a pretext for increased military/security spending, as a way to slowly remove our democratic and civil liberties "for the sake of security" if it mean (mostly Muslims) are being targeted.

 

[MrBurns]

Yes they have moved on but Islam hasn't ...everyone seems to see this but you.

 

[luutzu]

Yes they have moved on but Islam hasn't ...everyone seems to see this but you.

Just because there are now less Bible bashers in Western democracies compare to Koran bashers in theocratic Iran or Saudi Arabia, does not mean Christianity are any less Christian than it has always been and will always be.

I mean the UK still have its Royalties, the Royals seems all nice and law-abiding people who love democracy and people power.. .that does not mean English monarchs are more democratic and benevolent than the Sheikhs. They appear so because their power are all taken from them and are living on welfare.

 

[Jorgensen]

About two years ago I received an unsolicited email stating that Ahmed Fahoor,Australia Post CEO,received a four million dollar salary.He gave two million to a Muslim charity and then had two million left after the tax deduction.
I suppose this was meant to pejorative.Now I think about Malcolm Turnbull who minimises his tax by having Cayman island accounts.
Who do you think is the most patriotic Australian?
Remember its only the extremist that you have to be concerned about!

 

[noco]

https://www.votocrat.com/john.smith...e-keep-islam-out-of-australian-public-schools

 

[luutzu]

https://www.votocrat.com/john.smith...e-keep-islam-out-of-australian-public-schools

Why Chelsea was locked up for 7 years. What she revealed to wikileak.

 

[noco]

What do you say about this one Luutzu?

http://theblacksphere.net/2017/05/muslim-rapist-demands-freedom/

https://www.votocrat.com/susane.lis...refugees-who-lied-to-get-visas-agree-disagree

 

[luutzu]

What do you say about this one Luutzu?

http://theblacksphere.net/2017/05/muslim-rapist-demands-freedom/

Noco, seriously...

Did you ever see me say that Islam should be above the law? Any law? So if a Muslim or an atheist or a Greenie or even a commie were to claim that their lord and "religion" said it's fine to rape, they can take that up with them to prison.

There's just way too much racism. Which, I guess, is fine if it's just a personal opinion about how superior our race is against another... but when it's to this extend, it permit warmongers and war profiteers to kill innocent people, blame the victims for it, and get away with murder too.

Seriously, you bash Islam and Muslims because you think it's evil, raping and killing innocent people who doesn't bow to its will. Have you use the same principle when looking at "our" own action?

We're laying waste to the entire Middle East. Some 4 million people have been killed in just Iraq and Afghanistan alone, and that count was a couple of years ago. Some 17 million Yemeni are on the verge of literal death from famine - all at the courtesy of our great protector and a vassal state your great man just drop by to shake hands, make business deals and selling another $100Billion in additional weapons.

Anyway, it's a joke.

 

[noco]

"God" will fix everything........He/she is on the way in a space ship...He is coming to get rid of the Greens, the Muslims and the commies.....Yeah, he is going to clean up all the baddies and make Earth a better place to live.

If God made Earth in 6 days he should be able to fix it 5 days.

What a joke.

 

[noirua]

"God" will fix everything........He/she is on the way in a space ship...He is coming to get rid of the Greens, the Muslims and the commies.....Yeah, he is going to clean up all the baddies and make Earth a better place to live.

If God made Earth in 6 days he should be able to fix it 5 days.

What a joke.

Yes, everyone with any religious views or affiliations should be ejected into outer space. Oops, that includes me as well.
If God made earth in 6 days then Donald Trump can fix it in 1 day, cheered on by Vladimir Putin. It is only the devils who prevent it; the Media, the Judges, Congress and House of Representatives.

 

[SirRumpole]

Some 17 million Yemeni are on the verge of literal death from famine - all at the courtesy of our great protector and a vassal state your great man just drop by to shake hands, make business deals and selling another $100Billion in additional weapons.

You are now blaming the famine in Yemen on the US ?