We have been invaded by boats landing on our shores and Gillard allowed it all to happen.
One day you will learn the hard way when it is all too late.
Islam: Is it inherently Evil?
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We have been invaded by boats landing on our shores and Gillard allowed it all to happen.
One day you will learn the hard way when it is all too late.
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If they're invading, they won't be asking for permission.
Not on a fishing boat that barely float;
Not on bended knees saying they're fleeing war and famine.
Have been reading Dr Seuss
Know how I, like most other Australians newbie, was raised up in a predominantly Christian country? Even then we're still not buying the bs about Christianity and all its miracles. Good luck with Islam and their promise of death and destruction to the infidels - with no alcohol!
Multiple wives are pretty cool. But then you'd have to pay parental care until the kids are eighteen.
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I think you are cherry picking incidentals over the core reasons for wars like those that beset e.g Holy Roman Empire, the Three Kingdoms, etc
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If I read that right, and remember this is an ESL guy reading, no.
Religion are just incidental to war. All wars are for resources and dominance. Everything else are just use to disguise that core underlying reason.
I mean, it's hard to inspire soldiers - the guys who will have to kill and die for you - to tell them that they're doing it for the King or Emperor's; or the rich and their corporation's self-aggrandisement. The plebs just won't do it. They'd say stupid stuff like: you guys got castles and serfs; you jackazzes jets around the world like money doesn't matter... and you want us to die so you can have more of that?
So you wrap in more noble goals. Like freedom, liberty, God, clash of civilisation, good against evil.
That and make life at home so insecure, jobs so hard to come by that the poor will sign up to fight for good and hopefully get out of their poverty cycle or die trying.
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Iran-Iraq weren't really religious.
Saddam was secular. He only put a Koranic phrase on Iraq's flag after Kuwait or something. To show that it's the West fighting Islam rather than just fighting him and his oil.
Iran is a theocracy. It was a democracy until the CIA thought to replace its president with a more enlightened Shah.
Israel-Palestine are somewhat religious, but the people fighting it only uses religion, and a whole lot of racism and abuse of history, to further their ambition. I mean, there weren't such thing as the Arabs/Mulims hating the Jews because their religion says so. Remember that the Palestinians were the more generous of people when Hitler kick out the Jews - they take a lot of Jewish refugees into Palestine when other Christian nations thought naaa.
It was only after WWII when Truman and his Evangelical upbringing thought the Jews ought to have most of Palestine as their homeland - like God intended - that the Palestinians thought wtf? So historic Palestine was carved up, and backed by the UN and US military might, the God kings of Israel slowly expand and today totally subjugate the Palestinians.
So while religion is heavily used, it's just old fashion imperialism and genocide.
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Charming religion........
Mohammad Shakir pleads guilty to marrying girl, 14, in Melbourne mosque
A man who married a 14-year-old girl in Melbourne’s southeast has pleaded guilty to an offence under the marriage act.
Mohammad Shakir this morning entered a plea of guilty to going through with a marriage ceremony with a person not of marriageable age over the incident in September last year at Noble Park.
The Melbourne Magistrates Court heard Mr Shakir was previously charged with sexually penetrating a child under the age of 16 and being a party to a forced marriage.
The charges were withdrawn today and the new charge under the marriage act was entered instead.
It carries a maximum penalty of five years’ imprisonment.
The Iman who is alleged to have carried out the ceremony is due to appear before court next month for a contested hearing.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...e/news-story/737080203e2d8debbffb744e1dc95f1d
Mohammad Shakir pleads guilty to marrying girl, 14, in Melbourne mosque
A man who married a 14-year-old girl in Melbourne’s southeast has pleaded guilty to an offence under the marriage act.
Mohammad Shakir this morning entered a plea of guilty to going through with a marriage ceremony with a person not of marriageable age over the incident in September last year at Noble Park.
The Melbourne Magistrates Court heard Mr Shakir was previously charged with sexually penetrating a child under the age of 16 and being a party to a forced marriage.
The charges were withdrawn today and the new charge under the marriage act was entered instead.
It carries a maximum penalty of five years’ imprisonment.
The Iman who is alleged to have carried out the ceremony is due to appear before court next month for a contested hearing.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...e/news-story/737080203e2d8debbffb744e1dc95f1d
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We'll get told the law has sorted it out, but how about the deterrent that should have been in place in the first instance? They won't get pinged because the authorities are too worried about being labelled xenophobes and their personal lives being threatened by barbarians we invited in.
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So he gets off a charge of rape for a softer sentence under the Marriage Act ?
Not much justice there.
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Yes, but only if they're the weaker state that's being invaded. And only if religion is the main differentiation between them and the invaders.
So if a Christian kingdom takes on another Christian kingdom; or another Warring State taking on the other Warring State... religion won't play so prominent a role in the need to fight. It'll be fighting and dying for the fatherland, the motherland, the king, the emperor... and just plain old freedom.
When you're asking the powerful state that's doing the invading... it's either doing so to save the savages; or save the savages from their bad savage strong man; or save and liberate and bring civilisation to the weak and the soon to be dead.
At end of the day, wars are fought for material resources, strategic dominance, or just the smell of napalm and blood in the morning for what Adam Smith called the Masters of Mankind.
The plebs among the powerful states get to feel special about doing great deeds; the plebs among the weaker state get to be call terrorists, rebels and most will die or send into slavery.
End of lesson.
No doubt the Islamic radicals would love to behead this Sheik Mohammad Tawhidi..
But he does make sense and I trust Government heeds his advice and that is an inquiry into radical Islam in Australia....He is fully in favor of deportation if they don't toe the line.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/3508786...mic-leaders-be-deported-from-australia/#page1
But he does make sense and I trust Government heeds his advice and that is an inquiry into radical Islam in Australia....He is fully in favor of deportation if they don't toe the line.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/3508786...mic-leaders-be-deported-from-australia/#page1
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Well we have just witnessed Jakarta's election that was won along religious grounds, so there's 5.8 million people who can't shake a bad habit right there.
And don't forget Noco, it is Muslim's duty to lie to the enemy = non Muslim's. Which is why you can't believe any of them, including this bloke and other "wolves in sheep clothing" talking heads like Susan Carland, Waleed Aly, Yassmin Abdel-Magied, etc
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The first thing a gov't need advise on is how to spy on everyone and what prisons (and other punishments) are for.
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another interesting fact that the fake news we are fed daily by our journos would like us to forget:
you remember the crazy drugged etc guy who mowed people in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago:
make your own mind:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-...gasoulas-tells-court-i-am-the-saviour/8454290
you remember the crazy drugged etc guy who mowed people in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago:
make your own mind:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-...gasoulas-tells-court-i-am-the-saviour/8454290
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and let's not forget http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...n/news-story/0c057cf80c7300e4fb5dc16b0fd66b34
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so there were 2 terror attacks resulting in murders in the last month on own soil, in the name of islam, yet ask someone in the street if they are aware of any..talk about fake news...
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Seriously noco, you really have to stop subscribing to whatever news and opinion outlet you're on.
Using a "moderate", "reformed", "former" Muslim to attack Islam isn't an legitimate form of reasoning. You can't use a Muslim to bash other Muslims with the same old bs, but imply that what is said must be true because a Muslim is saying it.
There's a doco - The Green Prince - about some son of a Hamas leader the Israeli managed to turn. Maybe this is the guy? If so, you know how when you've been a spy and your people/side hates you but you got to feed yourself and your family? Who else can you turn to?
What's been happening in the West Bank and Gaza is disgusting. The kind of war crimes the Palestinians have to put up with. Get educated on the subject before posting stuff man.
Even the South African gov't are saying what the Palestinian is being put through in the occupied territories is worst than Apartheid. And they said that recently when Israel try to bring them in to show how insulting the UN report is to compare Israel to Apartheid S.Africa.
Some people have morality and conscience; others just don't have any shiet to give; then there are most who aren't aware of reality so just repeat propaganda.
You'd be surprise to know that many of Israel's harshest critics are Jewish. Some even live in Israel. And no, they're not self-hating Jews. Just people of conscience.
If you don't like what I post ...stiff sh$t......If you like the Palestinians, then go and live with them but don't I knock Israel....I don't know why you ever migrated to Australia really....On many occasions you come over as anti Australian when you show protection for Muslims.
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