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basilio said:
No Way :confused:!!! Are you saying that was fake news :eek::eek:!!
What absolute rubbish..:mad::mad::mad:

I could point to half a dozen world Presidents and prime Ministers, a score of media owners, a thousand billionaires and many of our most prolific and erudite posters on ASF who would back the sentiments of that story to the hilt.

In fact they would twist the knife and stick it in again for good measure. There is reality for you.
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It was funny.

Personally I think there was a hint of truth to it....
God knows bas when you start droning on I look longingly at the ocean.
 
wayneL said:
Again, nobody denies warming, it has been warming since the little Ice age.

The debate is over attribution and correct treatment of data
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Staaarrrooooth, had the accelerated increase of the last 10 or 12 years been at the same rate since the ice age we would never have been born Champ.

The rubbish of the deniers is unbelievable. The earth is cooking and most are turning away and living in pretence land.
 
explod said:
Staaarrrooooth, had the accelerated increase of the last 10 or 12 years been at the same rate since the ice age we would never have been born Champ.

The rubbish of the deniers is unbelievable. The earth is cooking and most are turning away and living in pretence land.
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What is this rubbish of which you speak Komrade Plod?

I posit that you have been walled off in your Di Natale/Bandt bubble of histrionics far too long.

Break free my radical friend and examine data from the honest brokers in science!
 
basilio said:
I thought this historical pictorial on the global temperatures and conditions on earth is a good summary.
https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Great link Bas.
A recent, compromised, post in this thread tempted me to link the Skepicalscience info on Co2 in the atmosphere; They give Basic, Intermediate and Advanced options to suit your level of understanding. Unfortunately Any of those were way beyond the capacities of the poster..
 
wayneL said:
What is this rubbish of which you speak Komrade Plod?

I posit that you have been walled off in your Di Natale/Bandt bubble of histrionics far too long.

Break free my radical friend and examine data from the honest brokers in science!
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Did you bother to think about my first paragraph.
 
moXJO said:
It was funny.

Personally I think there was a hint of truth to it....
God knows bas when you start droning on I look longingly at the ocean.
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I can so appreciate your predicament MoXjo.

I was thinking about the choice being offered of a tidal wave vs being droned to death by wild eyed , rabbiting(rabid) climate activists. Totally unfair of course and it got me thinking about a more humane solution.

So. I'm (more than) happy to invite over all those people being droned out of their minds because they really can't (won't) get their heads around the simple facts of CC and where we are heading.

I'll start a particularly detailed presentation to get you in the mood and when you just-can't-take-it-any-more you can head out to the large warm pool I have out the back. You can help yourself to some gorgeous scotch and a decent handful of gentle downers and then - a lovely swim in our waaarmmmm luxuriant pool.

Before you know it - no more problems ! I think this would be far more humane than a messy, ugly tidal wave.

Bookings now open. Ring early and beat the rush.:D
 
basilio said:
I can so appreciate your predicament MoXjo.

I was thinking about the choice being offered of a tidal wave vs being droned to death by wild eyed , rabbiting(rabid) climate activists. Totally unfair of course and it got me thinking about a more humane solution.

So. I'm (more than) happy to invite over all those people being droned out of their minds because they really can't (won't) get their heads around the simple facts of CC and where we are heading.

I'll start a particularly detailed presentation to get you in the mood and when you just-can't-take-it-any-more you can head out to the large warm pool I have out the back. You can help yourself to some gorgeous scotch and a decent handful of gentle downers and then - a lovely swim in our waaarmmmm luxuriant pool.

Before you know it - no more problems ! I think this would be far more humane than a messy, ugly tidal wave.

Bookings now open. Ring early and beat the rush.:D
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*Stares hopefully at ocean*
 
wayneL said:
No, because it was visceral bs.
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Yep its too hard for the belief system so has to be buried.

We don't like the facts do we. There is the science backed up by a bushman's observations over the last 70 years.

And if that's not good enough, how about getting onboard anyway as it's becoming clear that industries moving into clean alternatives is where the profits will be.
 
Humid said:
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/co2-emissions-are-stupid-the-horse-calculation-1736008830
Ulterior motive
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A lot of kids at school learn about the carbon cycle.
It's the one where animals breathe air and plants photosynthesise what has been breathed out.
In this cycle all the atmospheric components have been accounted for through natural processes.
When cars learn to breathe air as part of their natural cycle rather than rely on fossil fuels extracted from the ground and burnt in an engine, thereby becoming net additions to the atmosphere, we will be on a real winner.
Neigh, we already have cars that don't need fossil fuels so problem solved!
 
Some more dodgy data from the BOM, warm enough for everyone yet?

How is it going to go when we get the extra couple of degrees plus the extremes of volatility that will come with it?


Australia in spring 2019
Temperatures Rainfall Extremes Important notes the top

In Brief
  • Fifth-warmest spring on record for Australia
  • Mean maximum temperature warmer than average for spring over nearly all of Australia; second-warmest spring mean maximum temperature on record nationally
  • Mean minimum temperature warmer than average for spring over most of Western Australia, and scattered areas of the north and east; cooler than average mean minimum temperature for parts of the north and parts of southeastern South Australia, western Victoria to the New South Wales Riverina
  • Rainfall below average for most of Australia; nationally the driest spring on record
  • Spring rainfall amongst the ten lowest on record for the Northern Territory and all States except Victoria and Tasmania
  • Spring mean maximum temperature amongst the ten highest on record for the Northern Territory and all States except Victoria and Tasmania
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/archive/201911.summary.shtml
 
IFocus said:
Some more dodgy data from the BOM, warm enough for everyone yet?

How is it going to go when we get the extra couple of degrees plus the extremes of volatility that will come with it?


Australia in spring 2019
Temperatures Rainfall Extremes Important notes the top

In Brief
  • Fifth-warmest spring on record for Australia
  • Mean maximum temperature warmer than average for spring over nearly all of Australia; second-warmest spring mean maximum temperature on record nationally
  • Mean minimum temperature warmer than average for spring over most of Western Australia, and scattered areas of the north and east; cooler than average mean minimum temperature for parts of the north and parts of southeastern South Australia, western Victoria to the New South Wales Riverina
  • Rainfall below average for most of Australia; nationally the driest spring on record
  • Spring rainfall amongst the ten lowest on record for the Northern Territory and all States except Victoria and Tasmania
  • Spring mean maximum temperature amongst the ten highest on record for the Northern Territory and all States except Victoria and Tasmania
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/archive/201911.summary.shtml
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10 degrees under what they said it was going to hit, here anyway....
Heard it was hell in western Sydney though.
 
moXJO said:
10 degrees under what they said it was going to hit, here anyway....
Heard it was hell in western Sydney though.
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I think in 50 years it will be Armageddon we have been lucky here in WA with fires 4 x 40 although family have been impacted by the fires north of Perth
 
moXJO said:
10 degrees under what they said it was going to hit, here anyway....
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A toasty 48 here yesterday according to my non-calibrated thermometer and 45 today. BOM official data shows 45 both days. So it's fairly warm and toasty here in SA yes.

Keeping the cat cool with these ice blocks as she doesn't seem impressed with the heat. They're made from milk that's supposed to be suitable for cats to drink so all good there. :xyxthumbs

Luna Ice Cream Dec 2019.JPG
 
Smurf1976 said:
A toasty 48 here yesterday according to my non-calibrated thermometer and 45 today. BOM official data shows 45 both days. So it's fairly warm and toasty here in SA yes.

Keeping the cat cool with these ice blocks as she doesn't seem impressed with the heat. They're made from milk that's supposed to be suitable for cats to drink so all good there. :xyxthumbs

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In Adelaide Hills ,when they were saying an overnight minimum of 35 in Adelaide it was an unusually warm 27 here.In Norway they call any overnight temperature over 20 a tropical night.
 

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