Is Global Warming becoming unstoppable?

[sptrawler]

I'm with plod in that its too late to do anything in Australia (or the world for that matter) for any meaningful effect, except for preparation and sandbagging.

Well eventually it will be shown one way or another, whether the World can do enough the the time time available, to ensure the continuation of the human race.
The reality is that once humans have gone, nature will re find its balance.
IMO eventually either due to warming or overpopulation, humans will either go or their numbers greatly reduced by one way or another.

 

[Humid]

I just find it sad, that there it has to be so black or white, a person is either an absolute believer and treats it as a religion, otherwise they are classed as a denier.
I guess perception management companies, find that works best?
The church has been using the same ploy for centuries, you are a believer, or you go to hell.

https://images.app.goo.gl/jR2Hwiq6WNdYAa1p8

 

[rederob]

Rob I know you are passionate about it and your self belief is unshakable, but it doesn't make you 100% correct in everything you quote.
Just re read your posts in the Folau thread, to show that an absolute belief in an outcome, doesn't mean it will be so.

Again, focus on this topic which you continue to attach "religion" to rather than science.
You understand how a power plant generates electricity and would have no difficulty telling someone who was clueless. There will be a lot that goes on that you do not need to know because the simplicity of a power plant is that a source of energy is converted to a flow of electrons that can be externally distributed.
In climate there is a source of energy - namely the sun - that heats the planet and keeps it warm because an amount of that energy is retained through the blanket effect of the atmosphere. If the blanket effect retains more energy then the planet warms over time.
People can throw as many curve balls as they like but this is a matter of physics ruling the outcome, just as the energy equation for your power plant can be calculated.
When you work out that the maths or physics is wrong let us all know because you are confusing this with ideas about being passionate over something.

 

[sptrawler]

Again, focus on this topic which you continue to attach "religion" to rather than science.
You understand how a power plant generates electricity and would have no difficulty telling someone who was clueless. There will be a lot that goes on that you do not need to know because the simplicity of a power plant is that a source of energy is converted to a flow of electrons that can be externally distributed.
In climate there is a source of energy - namely the sun - that heats the planet and keeps it warm because an amount of that energy is retained through the blanket effect of the atmosphere. If the blanket effect retains more energy then the planet warms over time.
People can throw as many curve balls as they like but this is a matter of physics ruling the outcome, just as the energy equation for your power plant can be calculated.
When you work out that the maths or physics is wrong let us all know because you are confusing this with ideas about being passionate over something.

I actually don't give a rats ar$e one way or the other and don't go bashing people around the ears.
I only mentioned that it is a shame that the debate has to be so black versus white, well since then my point has been well and truly proven IMO.

 

[wayneL]

The assumption that the assumptions are incontrovertible, is a matter of religious observance, @rederob.

Vis a vis, a religion.

Religions feign objectivity, it is no different in your religion.

This is not to say that your religion does not have some pertinent points as do all religions, but what we want in objective debate is... absolute objectivity.

As humans we all suffer from cognitive bias, but probably the most egregious cognitive bias is the so-called bias blind spot, this is where I see you and your friends as destroying your own credibility.

I will readily admit to the same, but you of the new revelation cult will never do so.

 

[Logique]

https://babylonbee.com/news/poll-fi...ue-to-be-lectured-by-climate-change-activists
"...Over 87% of respondents selected, "Bring on the tidal wave." A few people said they'd rather take the lectures, but after hearing a few minutes of the lectures, quickly changed their minds..."

 

[Knobby22]

Don't worry Rederob.
When you see one side playing the man not the ball, it's obvious they know they only have paper tigers.

 

[rederob]

I actually don't give a rats ar$e one way or the other and don't go bashing people around the ears.
I only mentioned that it is a shame that the debate has to be so black versus white, well since then my point has been well and truly proven IMO.

If you don't care then don't post your ideas that science is equal to a religion unless you understand what you are talking about and can make a credible case.
Your idea that you point is proven has no merit whatsoever as you continue to confuse concepts.
To prove your case, use science.
If you don't want to do that, then expect your replies to be treated with the respect they deserve.

 

[Humid]

Isn’t there a thread on conceited boomers?

 

[wayneL]

Don't worry Rederob.
When you see one side playing the man not the ball, it's obvious they know they only have paper tigers.

You're feckin joking Knobby, @rederob is the king of ad hom!

 

[Knobby22]

You're feckin joking Knobby, @rederob is the king of ad hom!

He is overtly aggressive, but that's not what I said.

Instead of arguing science it's all religion, Greta, hypocrites' ….paper tigers.

In other works the "not happening" argument has been lost and most people know it, at least subconsciously. It's happening.

Even in Antarctica, which should be years away from warming effects, looks crap.
The models have been too conservative.

 

[wayneL]

He is overtly aggressive, but that's not what I said.

Instead of arguing science it's all religion, Greta, hypocrites' ….paper tigers.

In other works the "not happening" argument has been lost and most people know it, at least subconsciously. It's happening.

Even in Antarctica, which should be years away from warming effects, looks crap.
The models have been too conservative.

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Again, nobody denies warming, it has been warming since the little Ice age.

The debate is over attribution and correct treatment of data

 

[sptrawler]

https://babylonbee.com/news/poll-fi...ue-to-be-lectured-by-climate-change-activists
"...Over 87% of respondents selected, "Bring on the tidal wave." A few people said they'd rather take the lectures, but after hearing a few minutes of the lectures, quickly changed their minds..."

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Nailed it.

 

[rederob]

Nailed it.

Some people recognise fake news when they see it - you have responded to a post in the wrong thread!

 

[basilio]

Some people recognise fake news when they see it - you have responded to a post in the wrong thread!

No Way !!! Are you saying that was fake news !!
What absolute rubbish..

I could point to half a dozen world Presidents and prime Ministers, a score of media owners, a thousand billionaires and many of our most prolific and erudite posters on ASF who would back the sentiments of that story to the hilt.

In fact they would twist the knife and stick it in again for good measure. There is reality for you.

 

[rederob]

No Way !!! Are you saying that was fake news !!
What absolute rubbish..

I could point to half a dozen world Presidents and prime Ministers, a score of media owners, a thousand billionaires and many of our most prolific and erudite posters on ASF who would back the sentiments of that story to the hilt.

In fact they would twist the knife and stick it in again for good measure. There is reality for you.

Nailed it.

 

[sptrawler]

Some people recognise fake news when they see it - you have responded to a post in the wrong thread!

The message is still pertinent, though obviously wasted.

 

[sptrawler]

Nailed it.

That also is self explanatory, you and Bas slapping each others back.

 

[sptrawler]

Isn’t there a thread on conceited boomers?

Yep, you just posted in it.

 

[rederob]

The message is still pertinent, though obviously wasted.

Exactly where was the science?
Your idea that I might "go bashing people around the ears" is actually a call for you and anyone else to use what is between your ears... read my very many posts which point people in the direction of the science.
We who follow the science have to contend with comments like this:

"Well eventually it will be shown one way or another, whether the World can do enough in the time available, to ensure the continuation of the human race."​

There is zero science suggesting this is a likelihood for eons to come, and is symptomatic of the rubbish ideas propagated by those who continue to shitcan climate change.
While these ideas are allowed circulate widely there will be people who think - actually don't think much at all - there is legitimacy to them. And time and time again we call out those making the comments to show there is substance to their comments, to no avail.
Throw mud and hope it sticks.