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It would appear that over the next few trading days the Gold stocks are going to crash with the general market.
The POG??? may well fall
The divergence between the stocks (especially the juniors) and the price of the metals makes me think POG may fall as well.
Sounds to me like you are making trouble.
If the market crashes the POG may well fall in sympathy as we have seen previously but by significantly less. Gold may be sold off in a flight-to-cash as investors struggle to meet margin calls. If you want to be 100% safe then go 100% cash and take hit on a low return. I still reckon gold is the best investment in the market at the moment.
Have a look at your own chart around about the 22nd of Jan where DJIA touches the X axsis. See the big hole punched in the POG?This concept has never seemed right to me, and the data does not confirm that people invested in the general market have to sell their gold positions to meet obligations elswhere.
I think that's the excuse the media trott out when they can't think of a good reason for the price going up. Indian's making more jewerly and dipps in production should in theory affect the price but it's investors that are the major force driving the POG at moment.Supply is generally being constrained now eg NEM ann, so maybe it's time to allocate more of the portfolio to the physical as individual gold co's disappoint over production?
I wouldn't do that. If you buy gold jewellery you maybe paying a 200+% mark-up just for the design of the piece and then you have a insurance cost and security issues. If you buy a bar or coins when it comes time sell the question of contamination may come up.Supply is generally being constrained now eg NEM ann, so maybe it's time to allocate more of the portfolio to the physical as individual gold co's disappoint over production?
Yeah, but where is it headed itha? Got a hundred bucks if you tell me....
Hows about $914-$919 short-term..
Chirp
.........Kauri
A drop to $730 US could occur and the uptrend would still be intact.
Chart coutesy The Privateer Newsletter
lol Looking forward to the day when traded goods (including USD) have a default pricing in Oz.
The greenback dropped against gold today, now trading at 1.12 milli Oz. The AUD is up to .975 milli Oz today.
BHP is up .76 milli Oz today on strong copper price which rose to 3.86 milli Oz in london trade overnight.
A schooner thanks ... that'll be 4.50 milli Oz cheers mate. Oh I've only got dollars do you take those?
There's that CRASH word again!
I'm leaning the other way, bean. With the BoE now cutting rates with the US to stave off recession and Europe resisting but probably following suite sooner or later, I see the market holding about it's current levels before pushing on later.
I did think POG had potential to retrace more than it did a month or two ago, but I'm more optermistic that a world wide recession is being avoided and demand will remain strong for gold given now that Silver, Platinium, Palladium and even Rhodium have followed gold to these levels . I'm also not sure that the supply side is positioned to meet demand for gold in that scenario.
Just had to look back a bit. Now have we inflation in gold too, hows that work
I think that's the excuse the media trott out when they can't think of a good reason for the price going up. Indian's making more jewerly and dipps in production should in theory affect the price but it's investors that are the major force driving the POG at moment.
I wouldn't do that. If you buy gold jewellery you maybe paying a 200+% mark-up just for the design of the piece and then you have a insurance cost and security issues. If you buy a bar or coins when it comes time sell the question of contamination may come up.
Yes contamination. There may be a question of how the gold coin/bar has been stored. Has it been altered intentionally or unintentionally when stored privately?Contamination? There are standards for bullion eg purity 4 X 9's
A close at golds current level will be a new all time high on a weekly basis. The solid recovery from corections (from a media frenzy last weekend) indicates the PPT have lost the game and against the fundamantal shambles of the financials gold is about to go bananas.
Even my wife has been speaking to me nicely of late.
Just my humble opinion.
Don't lean to far , you'll end up flat on your face in this climate .
The US is already in a recession , they're just having a hard time admiting it .
No mate, I still have both feet firmly planted... just tracking a little in that dfirection. I have a pretty good side step.
Yeah, maybe but I think the main issue with gold in the next year or two is going to be a shift in the supply curve. Even presuming no real increase in demand it is looking like reduced supply will maintain current price levels in the short term.
Not sure what you are saying here on supply however the price rise of late has been because of high demand not as has been in the past few years the falling dollar.
Market failure seems to becoming endemic to the US in particular and has significantly unbalanced the world economy and the true medium to longer term supply and demand balance for many things.
Not sure of your angle here either, the Dow in fact has fallen much less than Asian and Euro markets. Of all that is collapsing around them the Dow has held up well. For how much longer will be interesting
From a commodity perspective I understand mineral companies already consider China and India bigger markets than the US and Europe combined. I think it was BHP that stated that again on the Sunday program.
I dont' believe the markets are relevant to the gold price anymore, it si all about currency values
So while the US is certainly a constant source of diheria for much of the world I expect a change of government come November, as in Aus to a more green, supply side and Marxian influence by government which I think will create a better societal environment and economic conditions and be more compatable with the emerging growth engines of China and India.
The 10 trillion of US debt will take many years of many governments to correct the problems in that neck of the woods.
In short I would not be too surprised with some volitality in the gold price while all the uncertainty unraveles and more production gears up.
There will be some volatility all right, huge ups and downs at very much higher levels. Well worth lokking at the gold chart action of 1979/80, but that will be chjilds play to whats coming now
But as I have said before I think people are probably suffering a little hypochondria over the US economy and under-estimating the capacity of countries like Aus, China and India to mitigate the impact of any adverse effects.
You call it hypocondria, hickup, gulp, er. yer gotta be jocking, the US is so debt ridden with a GDP that relies on continuing debt to survive that the carcase is all but rotting away.
Anyway, just my 2cents on a Sunday evening. Roulette was great today, amen
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