Garpal Gumnut
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Never ever thought of purchasing gold before. I know the Mrs would jump at the chance of buying some gold chain necklaces and rings, but I strongly suspect that is marked up a lot a lot more that the actual gold content is worth. I don't think she will come at a gold bar hanging around her neck. Me thinks I better not try that option. AND what chance of flogging her rings and chains! Can you imagine it, "Err sorry dear remember those rings we bought for investment, we need to sell them". I am not sure at what point while uttering that sentence my head gets removed from my body.It is time to buy Gold bar.
It is the traditional asset when political leadership fails and markets fall precipitously.
Give your ETF's to your dawg.
Miners may be another option but only those with secure operations, even then currency failures may affect them.
My advice is to get physical.
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Never ever thought of purchasing gold before. I know the Mrs would jump at the chance of buying some gold chain necklaces and rings, but I strongly suspect that is marked up a lot a lot more that the actual gold content is worth. I don't think she will come at a gold bar hanging around her neck. Me thinks I better not try that option. AND what chance of flogging her rings and chains! Can you imagine it, "Err sorry dear remember those rings we bought for investment, we need to sell them". I am not sure at what point while uttering that sentence my head gets removed from my body.
Ok more seriously,..
I assume you buy bars at the mint, which is good for me as we have one in Perth. Are the other forms of gold an option, like gold coins or do they suffer a significant marked up price too, like jewellery. There is more interesting appeal to me as coinage or are there some other collectable forms of gold (not jewellery).
I could ask this on the net but fear for a lot of BS advertising, and would rather read from the great minds of the ASF.
https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/mobile/home.aspx
I used them in the past, their website can be interesting for you to see available coins price etc
But this is in Brisbane
https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/mobile/home.aspx
I used them in the past, their website can be interesting for you to see available coins price etc
But this is in Brisbane
About GOLD etf, i do favor the pmgold one as there is supposed to be a one for one gold to paper match and offered by perth mint..a relatively trusted institutionFor assurity of your product I would only buy from Perth Mint Bullion or an authorised distributor.
Some have already been listed on this thread but here is the full list: https://www.perthmint.com/perth-mint-coin-distributors-australia.aspx
I would only buy 9999 gold as well and I would go for gold coins rather than the bars which come in "The Perth Mint Tamper-Evident Case." Usually the coins sell for about $20 more than the bars so you are not paying that much more considering you are looking at $2300 or more per troy ounce.
Buy as close to spot as you can. All brand new 1 oz coins and bars are $50 to $70 above spot. You won't get better than that unless you find yourself buying on the secondary market. But with that comes risk of fakes too so I would stick with the ones listed above.
When it comes to selling you will most likely get 10% less than spot for anything at a bullion shop or coin dealer, be it a bar or coin. That is unless you fluked a collectable bullion coin and that does happen sometimes. There is one Bullion Shop in Melbourne offering spot for all bullion gold and silver (with quantity limitations) but apart from that I don't know of any others that do.
If spot keeps on going up you don't need to do anything but buy and hold and cash in when you are ready. But if the POG goes south you could well be waiting a long time to get your money back. Good Luck!
I haven't gone there yet but I heard the Perth Mint one is very good. As for the GOLD ETF it's been around for a long time. It's definitely a way buy and hold gold to avoid direct storage fees (yes the ETF has fees too) but there are a lot of people out there that are sceptical and always say "if you don't hold it you don't own it".About GOLD etf, i do favor the pmgold one as there is supposed to be a one for one gold to paper match and offered by perth mint..a relatively trusted institution
GOLD and other etf are well known as having only a tenth at most of the paper gold they sell, they are basically fiat currency..
I own PMGOLD and in my view it is as good as it gets but indeed if you do not hold it ..I haven't gone there yet but I heard the Perth Mint one is very good. As for the GOLD ETF it's been around for a long time. It's definitely a way buy and hold gold to avoid direct storage fees (yes the ETF has fees too) but there are a lot of people out there that are sceptical and always say "if you don't hold it you don't own it".
PM me with your year of birth, I might have the french one if still missing or if you have a listThank You @finicky @Bill M @qldfrog wow some fabulous insights and experience. I did look up the Perth Mint site, very interesting. I am a philatelist and collecting sits well with me, but stamp collecting as an investment is very risky. I am currently collecting a set from every country that released a stamp in the year of my birth. (I should start a separate thread for stamp investments and keep this one for GOLD) Thanks @Garpal Gumnut loving this discussion.
You are missing something.Am I missing anything here, about the ETF issued by Perth Mint PMGOLD (which I own). Especially point 2 about being Physically Redeemable:
ASX: PMGOLD
Perth Mint Gold (ASX CODE: PMGOLD) is a right to gold created by The Perth Mint, which gives investors the ability to purchase Government-backed gold via the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX).
PMGOLD suits investors who prefer to manage their gold investment within their stockbroking account along with their ASX-listed equities and other holdings.
About Perth Mint Gold
The ASX price of PMGOLD is intended to track the international spot price of gold in Australian dollars. PMGOLD has a number of features that make it attractive to investors, including:
- Government guaranteed. PMGOLD is issued by Gold Corporation (trading as The Perth Mint), a statutory authority of the Government of Western Australia. The liabilities of Gold Corporation, including its obligations to PMGOLD investors, are guaranteed under section 22 of the Gold Corporation Act 1987, an Act of the Western Australian Parliament.
- Physically redeemable. Unlike many gold exchange traded products, PMGOLD can be physically redeemed for any of The Perth Mint’s bullion coins and bars.
- Fully backed. Holdings secured on behalf of investors in PMGOLD are fully underpinned by government-backed gold, which is safeguarded in The Perth Mint’s central bank grade vaults.
- Low management fee. PMGOLD’s management fee is just 0.15%, one of the lowest fees worldwide for a gold exchange traded product.
- Highly liquid. The Perth Mint, via its market making agents, ensures PMGOLD tracks the international spot price of gold by maintaining bid and offer prices and volume on the ASX at all times, in accordance with ASX rules.
- Convenient. PMGOLD can be purchased and sold through your stockbroker or share trading account with the same ease and convenience as investing in shares.
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