Freedom of speech and protest

[luutzu]

Paris riots

There are calls for a state of emergency and the army to be deployed in France after landmarks were attacked during intense riots.

French President Emmanuel Macron has asked for an evaluation of possible protest security measures, a day after a Paris protest against increased taxes and living costs devolved into France’s worst urban riot in a decade.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/eco...s/news-story/81b7ce233135813099177e306799d988

The riots might just be in Paris, but the protests all over France though.

Beggaring the plebs might not work out too well. You'd think the French should know that better than most.

 

[wayneL]

The riots might just be in Paris, but the protests all over France though.

Beggaring the plebs might not work out too well. You'd think the French should know that better than most.

I gather sales of sharpening stones and large wicker baskets have spiked all over France.

 

[luutzu]

I gather sales of sharpening stones and large wicker baskets have spiked all over France.

The mainstream media, and I'm guessing the gov't itself, is blaming this on that hippie Macron going "green" by taxing diesel. No doubt he also approve subsidies to electric vehicles every average Frenchie can easily afford too.

From some of the interviews, seems the peasants are fed up with not having enough left over after a month's work. Taxes and bills rising, cannot make ends meet... and now a tax on their fuel to get to work.

Maybe a section of the protestors went violent... but I wouldn't put it pass the Interior Ministry getting a few agents in, setting a few cars on fire.. then send in the troops to bring peace and order. If so, dangerous game, no? The crackdown might set off the entire place. There's enough dead wood for that to happen.

Also read on Reuters on Chinese tourist not being happy about her shopping tour of Paris being ruined by the riots. She and her partner just landed and was thinking of whether to shop in Paree or jet straight to Milan

 

[basilio]

The quality of education in 2018. A more creative range of protest posters

"I've seen smarter cabinets at Ikea"
"We'd be less activist if you be less xhit"
"We only have ONE world - Don't xuck it up"
"Clean up our Planet.It's not Uranus"

Students strike for climate change protests, defying calls to stay in school

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11...limate-change-protest-scott-morrison/10571168

 

[wayneL]

Nineteeneightyfour... the replacement religion.

Orwell was surely a prophet, abeit politically misguided himself.

 

[basilio]

This story on Polarization in Poland is worth reading. It documents haw a country can be divided when authoritarian leaders come to power and demonise all opposition.

A Warning From Europe: The Worst Is Yet to Come
Polarization. Conspiracy theories. Attacks on the free press. An obsession with loyalty. Recent events in the United States follow a pattern Europeans know all too well.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/poland-polarization/568324/

 

[Logique]

Nineteeneightyfour... the replacement religion.
Orwell was surely a prophet, abeit politically misguided himself.

That he was. We are well along the pathway he foresaw.
The Gilets Jaune is a response to this.
Pres Bolsonaro just elected in Brazil.
I doubt the UK is the only Euro Union nation looking to the exits.
The climate change catastrophist claims have risen to near hysteria.

 

[basilio]

The climate change catastrophist claims have risen to near hysteria.

And the head in the sand, fingers in the ears, " La, La La" denialists just swallow another Trump tweet and ignore a world that is cooking in front of their (closed) eyes.

 

[wayneL]

It's an interesting ideological war right now logique.

The front line seems to center around tech (silicon valley behemoths); no more so than the Patreon/Mastercard/Paypal debacle, Patreon having scored a massive own goal and perhaps commiting financial suicide.

 

[Logique]

The courage of this young Canadian woman, standing up for free speech, nearly sacked by her university because of it. She speaks well

The lessons Lindsay Shepherd learned
Posted on 12:10 pm, January 12, 2019 by Steve Kates: http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/01/12/the-lessons-lindsay-shepherd-learned/
..She became famous for showing a sixty second video of Jordan Peterson to a university class, for which she was almost sacked and would have been except she had taped the inquisition with the three-person tribunal who had tried to do her over. She has learned a very great deal since that time.

 

[Logique]

Don't laugh, they're working on it! The author forgot meat, and Y chromosomes

Top 10 Things Liberals Will Try To Ban Within The Next Decade
Kurt Schlichter Kurt Schlichter - Jan 10, 2019 https://townhall.com/columnists/kur...ll-try-to-ban-within-the-next-decade-n2538737
10. Pets
9. All-Male Sports
8. Accurate Pronouns
7. Fossil Fuel Cars
6. Hunting
5. Private Doctors
4. Guns
3. Religion
2. Free Speech
1. Conservatives

 

[wayneL]

Don't laugh, they're working on it! The author forgot meat, and Y chromosomes

Laying the foundations for a takover from true toxic masculinity... You know, the ones who get a free pass from the left.

 

[Logique]

Hard to feel much sympathy for Ms Prior, who lost and had costs awarded against her. Or Ms Triggs.

1 Feb 2019 - Cindy Prior declared bankrupt years after telling QUT students to leave computer lab. Six years after an admin worker accused a group of students of racial discrimination, she’s admitted the legal bill has become too much.
News.com.au: Natalie Wolfe@natwolfe94

 

[Knobby22]

Hard to feel much sympathy for Ms Prior, who lost and had costs awarded against her. Or Ms Triggs.

Gillian Triggs will go down as a failure in her role. Continual poor judgement.
I'll probably get sued for saying that.
Being wealthy and now a commissioner for Aboriginal and Torres Straits maybe she could think of providing help to single mum Ms Prior who presumably received advice from her.

 

[basilio]

Fall out from the Cardinal Pell trial will start soon.
Dozens of journalists and local Media attempted to circumvent the suppression order after Pell was found guilty of child sex abuse in Dec 2018.
They will now have to explain their actions.

Dozens of journalists accused of breaking Pell suppression order face possible jail terms
Prosecutors send letters to up to 50 editors and reporters at News Corp, ABC and others

• Follow live updates on the reaction to Cardinal George Pell’s conviction
• Full report: Pell found guilty of child sexual assault
• Five times guilty: how Pell’s past caught up with him
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...al-suppression-order-face-possible-jail-terms

 

[moXJO]

Fall out from the Cardinal Pell trial will start soon.
Dozens of journalists and local Media attempted to circumvent the suppression order after Pell was found guilty of child sex abuse in Dec 2018.
They will now have to explain their actions.

Dozens of journalists accused of breaking Pell suppression order face possible jail terms
Prosecutors send letters to up to 50 editors and reporters at News Corp, ABC and others

• Follow live updates on the reaction to Cardinal George Pell’s conviction
• Full report: Pell found guilty of child sexual assault
• Five times guilty: how Pell’s past caught up with him
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...al-suppression-order-face-possible-jail-terms

Isn’t this similar to tommy Robinsons case?

 

[basilio]

Isn’t this similar to tommy Robinsons case?

There could be ..

Couple of significant differences
1) "Tommy Robinson" had already talked about people being tried before the end of a case,been found guilty of contempt and warned very specifically that you can't do that.
2) He then did it again in violation of the law and after his first warning. I suggest that is why they threw the book at him

The suppression order on the outcome of the first Cardinal Pell trial was made to ensure that, as far as possible, Pell received a fair trial for another sex abuse case. This case wassupposed to be begin in February this year and the judge wanted to keep the guilty outcome of the December case quiet to not taint a new witness pool.

That principle is well understood and essential for fair treatment of the accused. Local media that attempted to expose Cardinal Pell were indeed in contempt of court. The will need to explain why they tried to expose Cardinal Pell's conviction when he was due to face another trial.

The reason why the suppression order was lifted was because the second trial won't go ahead. The judge has ruled particular evidence by the prosecution inadmissible. The prosecution has decided that without this evidence they can't mount a convincing case. End of story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02...y-cardinal-court-case-held-in-secret/10233118

 

[moXJO]

There could be ..

Couple of significant differences
1) "Tommy Robinson" had already talked about people being tried before the end of a case,been found guilty of contempt and warned very specifically that you can't do that.
2) He then did it again in violation of the law and after his first warning. I suggest that is why they threw the book at him

The suppression order on the outcome of the first Cardinal Pell trial was made to ensure that, as far as possible, Pell received a fair trial for another sex abuse case. This case wassupposed to be begin in February this year and the judge wanted to keep the guilty outcome of the December case quiet to not taint a new witness pool.

That principle is well understood and essential for fair treatment of the accused. Local media that attempted to expose Cardinal Pell were indeed in contempt of court. The will need to explain why they tried to expose Cardinal Pell's conviction when he was due to face another trial.

The reason why the suppression order was lifted was because the second trial won't go ahead. The judge has ruled particular evidence by the prosecution inadmissible. The prosecution has decided that without this evidence they can't mount a convincing case. End of story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02...y-cardinal-court-case-held-in-secret/10233118

Realistically, the legit jornos should know better. In saying that I wouldn’t sentence them.
May the pedos rot in hell.

 

[basilio]

Morrison government bans Milo Yiannopoulos from entering Australia
Bevan ShieldsMarch 6, 2019 — 2.36pm

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The Morrison government has banned right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos from entering Australia in a fresh crackdown likely to infuriate his conservative supporters but please critics who believe he is anti-Semitic.

The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age can reveal the controversial speaker was told this week his visa application had been rejected and he cannot enter Australia.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/po...-from-entering-australia-20190306-p5124z.html

 

[wayneL]

Slowly we inch...