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Fake news and its effect on the community

Finland is recognised as having the best education system in the world. This is how they approach the issue of children understanding evidence and logic based news.


How Finland starts its fight against fake news in primary schools
Country on frontline of information war teaches everyone from school pupils to politicians how to spot slippery information

You can start when children are very young, said Kari Kivinen. In fact, you should: “Fairytales work well. Take the wily fox who always cheats the other animals with his sly words. That’s not a bad metaphor for a certain kind of politician, is it?”

...In secondary schools, such as the state-run college in Helsinki where Kivinen is head teacher, multi-platform information literacy and strong critical thinking have become a core, cross-subject component of a national curriculum that was introduced in 2016.

In maths lessons, Kivinen’s pupils learn how easy it is to lie with statistics. In art, they see how an image’s meaning can be manipulated. In history, they analyse notable propaganda campaigns, while Finnish language teachers work with them on the many ways in which words can be used to confuse, mislead and deceive.

“The goal is active, responsible citizens and voters,” Kivinen said. “Thinking critically, factchecking, interpreting and evaluating all the information you receive, wherever it appears, is crucial. We’ve made it a core part of what we teach, across all subjects.”

...Fake news, Kivinen said, is not a great term, especially for children. Far more useful are three distinct categories: misinformation, or “mistakes”; disinformation, or “lies” and “hoaxes”, which are false and spread deliberately to deceive; and malinformation, or “gossip”, which may perhaps be correct but is intended to harm.

“Even quite young children can grasp this,” he said. “They love being detectives. If you also get them questioning real-life journalists and politicians about what matters to them, run mock debates and real school elections, ask them to write accurate and fake reports on them … democracy, and the threats to it, start to mean something.”

He wants his pupils to ask questions such as: who produced this information, and why? Where was it published? What does it really say? Who is it aimed at? What is it based on? Is there evidence for it, or is this just someone’s opinion? Is it verifiable elsewhere?
 
Like most people, there are relatively few things that I know enough about to be certain of the facts based on my own knowledge. Same for everyone - nobody's an actual expert on everything from medicine to engineering to fashion to endangered species.
 
The latest Cult of choice is Q Anon. But who is behind Q Anon and what do they want from the millions of eager believers ?

Turns out one of the key figures in the shadows of Q Anon is a senior VP of Citibank who was running one of the key Q Anon websites. He also has a strong interest in Data mIning.

Citigroup Was Having a Helluva Bad Year – Now a Citi Senior VP Has Been Outed as the Man Behind a QAnon Conspiracy Website
 
Finland is recognised as having the best education system in the world. This is how they approach the issue of children understanding evidence and logic based news.


How Finland starts its fight against fake news in primary schools
Country on frontline of information war teaches everyone from school pupils to politicians how to spot slippery information

You can start when children are very young, said Kari Kivinen. In fact, you should: “Fairytales work well. Take the wily fox who always cheats the other animals with his sly words. That’s not a bad metaphor for a certain kind of politician, is it?”

...In secondary schools, such as the state-run college in Helsinki where Kivinen is head teacher, multi-platform information literacy and strong critical thinking have become a core, cross-subject component of a national curriculum that was introduced in 2016.

In maths lessons, Kivinen’s pupils learn how easy it is to lie with statistics. In art, they see how an image’s meaning can be manipulated. In history, they analyse notable propaganda campaigns, while Finnish language teachers work with them on the many ways in which words can be used to confuse, mislead and deceive.

“The goal is active, responsible citizens and voters,” Kivinen said. “Thinking critically, factchecking, interpreting and evaluating all the information you receive, wherever it appears, is crucial. We’ve made it a core part of what we teach, across all subjects.”

...Fake news, Kivinen said, is not a great term, especially for children. Far more useful are three distinct categories: misinformation, or “mistakes”; disinformation, or “lies” and “hoaxes”, which are false and spread deliberately to deceive; and malinformation, or “gossip”, which may perhaps be correct but is intended to harm.

“Even quite young children can grasp this,” he said. “They love being detectives. If you also get them questioning real-life journalists and politicians about what matters to them, run mock debates and real school elections, ask them to write accurate and fake reports on them … democracy, and the threats to it, start to mean something.”

He wants his pupils to ask questions such as: who produced this information, and why? Where was it published? What does it really say? Who is it aimed at? What is it based on? Is there evidence for it, or is this just someone’s opinion? Is it verifiable elsewhere?
They should run it past teachers in Australia, it may well teach them something.?
In Australia, everyone is an expert on everything they read in the media, they will even argue black and blue with people who are expert in a subject "because it was said in the media".
 
In Australia, everyone is an expert on everything they read in the media, they will even argue black and blue with people who are experts in a subject "because it was said in the media".

Every now and then, you find a comment on this forum that resonates, THIS IS ONE.

I can extend it a little further, application in any technical field. I have 3 years experience, I am an expert. I hear this time and time again when trying to employee people where I require high technical expertise in a very narrow area of technology.

My response is always the same, f--kme you must be an expert or just f---king brilliant, 3 years, did you learn it on youtube. Hence why I generally only employ those over 35, better chance they have more than google or youtube experience.
 
CNN Pre-Debate Poll Shows Biden Clearly Won Debate
September 29th, 2020
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U.S.—In a highly accurate and scientific CNN poll taken pre-debate, presidential candidate Joe Biden has had a clear win over incumbent President Donald Trump, with 98% saying Biden won the debate tonight and only 2% saying Trump won.

“Biden just dominated Trump with his very non-senile performance,” said pundit Jacob Ingram. “Or at least that’s what everyone knows is going to happen.”
The poll sampled smart people who are also attractive and cool, and it’s very clear that those people all think Biden is great and have already awarded him the win in tonight’s debate against the dumb and abrasive Trump.
“With such a clear and decisive win, there’s really no reason to even have the debate,” said Biden campaign staffer Lucas Mathis. “That would only distract from how great Biden is doing. And ruin his naps.”
The Trump campaign has denounced the poll as “fake news,” even though the poll was made using numbers and a computer which are common instruments of science.
It is unclear if the actual debate tonight could affect the poll results, but most experts expect that it will not.
 
Well done Dutchie.. You quote a satirical site with made up stories but managed to miss the real story of the Trumps media team trumping their great victory over the evil Biden empire ... right now.

Indeed a prime example of Faster than Light events. :laugh:

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So who looked less stupid in the debate? I havent seen it so will take ASF learned members opinion as a guide.
 
So who looked less stupid in the debate? I havent seen it so will take ASF learned members opinion as a guide.


It didn't actually get to that level the whole thing was a mess, total laughing stock.

The leader of the free world couldn't / wouldn't debate an opponent.
 
It didn't actually get to that level the whole thing was a mess, total laughing stock.

The leader of the free world couldn't / wouldn't debate an opponent.
Thats interesting, were any issues covered or was it just a slanging match?
 
More Fake News. How to create your own xhit storm of support.

Facebook removes hundreds of fake profiles tied to pro-Trump group
Social network says accounts tied to Turning Point USA sought to influence conversations by flooding news articles with comments


Facebook has removed hundreds of fake profiles it has linked to the conservative group Turning Point USA for carrying out organized attacks on the site, including attempts to influence public conversations by flooding news articles with pro-Trump comments and misinformation.

The move was prompted by reporting last month in the Washington Post that found Turning Point Action, an affiliated pro-Trump group, was paying teenagers to post coordinated messages on the site, a violation of Facebook’s rules.

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In comments on news articles, paid users cast doubt on mail-in ballots, praised Trump and spread misinformation about coronavirus. Facebook traced these profiles to an Arizona-based communications company called Rally Forge, which it says worked on behalf of Turning Point USA.

In a blogpost, Facebook said it had removed 276 fake accounts, including 200 Facebook accounts and 76 Instagram accounts.

Comments by the accounts addressed topics such as “Covid-19, criticism of the Democratic party and presidential candidate Joe Biden, and praise of President Trump and the Republican party”, Facebook said, adding that the efforts violated the platform’s policy against “coordinated inauthentic behavior”.
 
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