Fake news and its effect on the community

[wayneL]

Rederob, as per usual, seeks to misrepresent the nuance of his opponent's position.

This is typical of the disingenuity(sic) and mendacity of the leftist position.

And just so that we are clear, yes I am calling you a f****** liar.

 

[wayneL]

Anyway, on to less tiresome topics:

I did miss the leaders debate tonight, media seems to be calling it a bit of a draw really.

Any opinions from those who actually watch it?

 

[moXJO]

Anyway, on to less tiresome topics:

I did miss the leaders debate tonight, media seems to be calling it a bit of a draw really.

Any opinions from those who actually watch it?

Really?
Damn I must be living in a bubble at the moment. Didn't even know. Or care.

 

[rederob]

Rederob, as per usual, seeks to misrepresent the nuance of his opponent's position.

Striking a police horse at an unlawful protest where the moron refused to move on has no "nuance".

This is typical of the disingenuity(sic) and mendacity of the leftist position.

You should look at your earlier post

I think it's high time that everybody stops categorising those on the absolute extremes, as representative of everybody on that side of the spectrum.

as your hypocrisy is nothing short of disingenuous. Nicely followed by another example of yours below:

And just so that we are clear, yes I am calling you a f****** liar.

Need I say more!

So let's recap:
On 24 July you posted one of your many tweets suggesting this incident was fake news.
A follow-up comment of yours stated "Fake news (eg the horse punch) is du rigeur."
You eventually offered an MSM video clearly showing "Tobruk" was struck, but saying "it was the whimpiest punch ever recorded in the last 500 years."
I was implored to watch the video evidence, which is interesting as I had referenced it and showed the evidence police and State Prosecutors relied on to make the case. As I am simply mirroring the claim of the State, based on the evidence we all have, my position is in fact the same as that of the officer riding Tobruk, who we can reasonably assume @wayneL would also call "f****** liar"

Yes, there were the typical unintelligible comments from @cynic, and suggestions it was not really a "punch." But the earlier suggestion that it was a push preventing Mr Free Speech from being trampled is as bogus as fake news gets. I showed an instance of a push in a similar circumstance and it clearly shows an open palm against the horse, which is the natural, instinctive defence against a horse you would fear trampling you. Everything Mr Free Speech did was wrong and aggressive rather than defensive.

@wayneL would have us believe he knows more about the law than the State, yet offers no evidence to suggest this is credible. And rather than argue the State's case against Mr Free Speech @wayneL reverts to type and plays the man, as they say in the vernacular.

 

[moXJO]

Striking a police horse at an unlawful protest where the moron refused to move on has no "nuance".

You should look at your earlier post

as your hypocrisy is nothing short of disingenuous. Nicely followed by another example of yours below:

Need I say more!

So let's recap:
On 24 July you posted one of your many tweets suggesting this incident was fake news.
A follow-up comment of yours stated "Fake news (eg the horse punch) is du rigeur."
You eventually offered an MSM video clearly showing "Tobruk" was struck, but saying "it was the whimpiest punch ever recorded in the last 500 years."
I was implored to watch the video evidence, which is interesting as I had referenced it and showed the evidence police and State Prosecutors relied on to make the case. As I am simply mirroring the claim of the State, based on the evidence we all have, my position is in fact the same as that of the officer riding Tobruk, who we can reasonably assume @wayneL would also call "f****** liar"

Yes, there were the typical unintelligible comments from @cynic, and suggestions it was not really a "punch." But the earlier suggestion that it was a push preventing Mr Free Speech from being trampled is as bogus as fake news gets. I showed an instance of a push in a similar circumstance and it clearly shows an open palm against the horse, which is the natural, instinctive defence against a horse you would fear trampling you. Everything Mr Free Speech did was wrong and aggressive rather than defensive.

@wayneL would have us believe he knows more about the law than the State, yet offers no evidence to suggest this is credible. And rather than argue the State's case against Mr Free Speech @wayneL reverts to type and plays the man, as they say in the vernacular.

I think it highlights Australias need for a bill of rights.
Leaving the house to protest was never really tested in court against the " reasonable excuse to leave the house" rule at the time.

But personally I think that democracy doesn't stop during a pandemic. Even though our rep democracy is a bit of a cartoonish joke.

Protests in open air didn't seem to spread that much.

Here's the guy with the so called "punch"
Notice that the arm isn't swung.
Knuckles don't connect as a normal punch would.
The slow speed of the arm movement suggests a push.
The horse was aimed at him and was trying to move him back.



Still photos completely change the context. Not to say he is/isn't wrong.

According to untested pandemic laws these people shouldn't have been there. Unless you think your right to protest was a reasonable excuse. I have noticed that the greenies are now getting slammed in nsw with protest laws. A slide in rights effects everyone.

 

[DB008]

The media twists everything to please their puppet masters...

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[moXJO]

The guy that "punched a horse" had that charge dismissed in court.

 

[wayneL]

Striking a police horse at an unlawful protest where the moron refused to move on has no "nuance".

You should look at your earlier post

as your hypocrisy is nothing short of disingenuous. Nicely followed by another example of yours below:

Need I say more!

So let's recap:
On 24 July you posted one of your many tweets suggesting this incident was fake news.
A follow-up comment of yours stated "Fake news (eg the horse punch) is du rigeur."
You eventually offered an MSM video clearly showing "Tobruk" was struck, but saying "it was the whimpiest punch ever recorded in the last 500 years."
I was implored to watch the video evidence, which is interesting as I had referenced it and showed the evidence police and State Prosecutors relied on to make the case. As I am simply mirroring the claim of the State, based on the evidence we all have, my position is in fact the same as that of the officer riding Tobruk, who we can reasonably assume @wayneL would also call "f****** liar"

Yes, there were the typical unintelligible comments from @cynic, and suggestions it was not really a "punch." But the earlier suggestion that it was a push preventing Mr Free Speech from being trampled is as bogus as fake news gets. I showed an instance of a push in a similar circumstance and it clearly shows an open palm against the horse, which is the natural, instinctive defence against a horse you would fear trampling you. Everything Mr Free Speech did was wrong and aggressive rather than defensive.

@wayneL would have us believe he knows more about the law than the State, yet offers no evidence to suggest this is credible. And rather than argue the State's case against Mr Free Speech @wayneL reverts to type and plays the man, as they say in the vernacular.

Time always outs.

 

[rederob]

Time always outs.

The Prosecution dropped the animal cruelty charges as the moron pleaded guilty to breaching public health orders.
So the contentious charges were never tested in court.

 

[wayneL]

The Prosecution dropped the animal cruelty charges as the moron pleaded guilty to breaching public health orders.
So the contentious charges were never tested in court.

And why do ya reckon that might be?

 

[moXJO]

So.
It's very noticeable that propagandists are targeting the right.
The right on social media is turning into the left of 2016. I haven't seen so many dumb, angry takes from what were people with reasonable opinions.

Propagandists are really pushing division at the moment through triggering outrage.
It's multiple lane attacks as well. They are also targeting Africa and Asia to hate westerners.
UK riots are being spread around as " look what the west has become".

Olympics is a hotbed. China running a hearts and minds campaign while also sht canning the west.

It's to cause hatred among westerners and against westerners from their own populations. There are those in the west fuelling it as well.
Those in politics will be the next target of the mobs imo to break down leadership roles.

You could see this coming over a decade ago.
If I were to place bets, it's to incite enough hatred for war.

Western leaders need to take a very good look at some of their policies are doing to countries. At this point they are just adding petrol to the fire.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes if you can sit back and not actually give a $hit, it is amazing to watch the manipulation of reality, I hope I'm here to see it play out.

It will be epic IMO.

The one thing that wont happen, is the havenots wont be targeted, the daughter when she lived on her own was broken into, they didn't take anything.

 

[StockyGuy]

The one thing that wont happen, is the havenots wont be targeted, the daughter when she lived on her own was broken into, they didn't take anything.

When the burglars saw my place they were so moved they took nothing but left me some instant scratchies and a family-sized pizza on the table, with a note, "good luck, buddy - we'll be praying for you."

 

[basilio]

No mucking around with the UK Government on the rioters and social media terrorists in Britain.
Caught, tried and sentenced in swift time


People who threw stones, hurled racist abuse and pushed a burning wheelie bin at police also sent to prison

Jessica Murray, Rajeev Syal and agencies
Fri 9 Aug 2024 13.35 EDTLast modified on Fri 9 Aug 2024 23.06 EDT

Two men jailed for social media posts that stirred up far-right violence​

Two men have been sent to prison for stirring up hatred and violence online after the Southport attack, in the first cases of their kind linked to the recent riots seen across the country.

Jordan Parlour, 28, was jailed for 20 months after pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred with Facebook posts in which he advocated an attack on a hotel in Leeds as part of the violent public disorder that swept England last week.

In Northampton, Tyler Kay, 26, was given three years and two months in prison for posts on X that called for mass deportation and for people to set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/09/uk-far-right-riots-elon-musk-x
They are the first people to be charged for posting criminal messages online linked to the recent far-right violence.

Parlour’s post said: “Every man and their dog should be smashing [the] **** out [of] Britannia hotel.” More than 200 refugees and asylum seekers lived at the hotel. The initial post received six likes, but could be forwarded more widely owing to Parlour’s privacy settings.

Passing sentence on Friday, the judge, Guy Kearl KC, accepted Parlour took no part in the violence but said: “There can be no doubt you were inciting others to do so.

“You went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who ‘rape our kids and get priority’,” Kearl said. “You were encouraging others to attack a hotel which you knew was occupied by refugees and asylum seekers.”

Two men jailed for social media posts that stirred up far-right violence

People who threw stones, hurled racist abuse and pushed a burning wheelie bin at police also sent to prison

www.theguardian.com

 

[Knobby22]

No mucking around with the UK Government on the rioters and social media terrorists in Britain.
Caught, tried and sentenced in swift time


People who threw stones, hurled racist abuse and pushed a burning wheelie bin at police also sent to prison

Jessica Murray, Rajeev Syal and agencies
Fri 9 Aug 2024 13.35 EDTLast modified on Fri 9 Aug 2024 23.06 EDT

Two men jailed for social media posts that stirred up far-right violence​

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Two men have been sent to prison for stirring up hatred and violence online after the Southport attack, in the first cases of their kind linked to the recent riots seen across the country.

Jordan Parlour, 28, was jailed for 20 months after pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred with Facebook posts in which he advocated an attack on a hotel in Leeds as part of the violent public disorder that swept England last week.

In Northampton, Tyler Kay, 26, was given three years and two months in prison for posts on X that called for mass deportation and for people to set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/09/uk-far-right-riots-elon-musk-x
They are the first people to be charged for posting criminal messages online linked to the recent far-right violence.

Parlour’s post said: “Every man and their dog should be smashing [the] **** out [of] Britannia hotel.” More than 200 refugees and asylum seekers lived at the hotel. The initial post received six likes, but could be forwarded more widely owing to Parlour’s privacy settings.

Passing sentence on Friday, the judge, Guy Kearl KC, accepted Parlour took no part in the violence but said: “There can be no doubt you were inciting others to do so.

“You went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who ‘rape our kids and get priority’,” Kearl said. “You were encouraging others to attack a hotel which you knew was occupied by refugees and asylum seekers.”

Two men jailed for social media posts that stirred up far-right violence

People who threw stones, hurled racist abuse and pushed a burning wheelie bin at police also sent to prison

www.theguardian.com

Consequences. They exist.
At least in the UK.

 

[sptrawler]

Police shouldn't have to put up with that, it at least sets a precedent, for when future riots happen.

As this isn't the only riots that have happened, I think sending message out, that violence in the name of outrage isn't acceptable.
It is amazing how many times outrage, is used as an excuse to behave badly.