Fake news and its effect on the community

[basilio]

Yes, I stand against all fake news.

You only stand against certain fake news.

More Wayne "alternative facts".
But then you just swallow and regurgitate the chief producer of alternative realities.

This report is for you .

John Oliver on the RNC: 'Full-throated denial of objective reality'
The Last Week Tonight host tears apart the Republican national convention’s triumphant vision of America after the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha

...Oliver played a clip of Fox News host Tucker Carlson working to justify Rittenhouse’s lethal actions: “How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?”

“Well you don’t seem to be shocked, and that alone should actually be pretty xucking shocking,” Oliver responded. “Because let’s be clear: a 17-year-old vigilante with a rifle cannot maintain order, because a 17-year-old vigilante with a rifle trying to maintain order is himself the definition of disorder.”
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...er-rnc-full-throated-denial-objective-reality

 

[wayneL]

When have I said anything about Blake or Rittenhouse? You are just attempting to create a strawman argument, baz.

My point is that you only commence your spittle flecked ranting in a select few cases, vis a vis in order to serve your rampant Trump derangement pathology.

It's pretty transparent and deathly boring.

 

[satanoperca]

Do we have any Fake News in Australia.

Love to hear some. I read Wayne was changing gender, TRUE OR FALSE.

 

[moXJO]

Two videos for george floyd.

 

[basilio]

Che ? What the xuck do you mean Wayne ?

Somewhere , somehow, someway you want to equivocate the gross repeated, maniacal, slanders made against Anne Webster (and many others) with the Covington Kid?

Lets understand what is happening here Wayne in the big picture.

Australian MP takes on conspiracy theorist in court but experts don't know where to begin with online battle
A recent report found QAnon’s following was growing considerably in Australia with only the US, UK and Canada producing more conspiracy content

In May, Anne Webster, a first-term Nationals MP from Mildura in regional Victoria, quietly launched a defamation action in the federal court over a series of posts and videos about her on social media site Facebook.

According to a statement of claim seen by Guardian Australia, posts made about the federal MP in April claimed, without any factual basis, that she was “a member of a secretive pedophile network” who had been “parachuted into parliament to protect a past generation of pedophiles”.

Within weeks of the case being filed, Justice Michael Wheelahan made urgent orders for the defendant to remove the posts, labelling them “vile” and describing the legal action as “one of those exceptional cases” where the court could order the removal of the allegedly defamatory material before a trial.

“Given the potency of the allegations [in the] online posts, the scandal created may well reach quarters that cannot be known … this is one of those rare cases where damages may not be an adequate remedy,” Wheelahan said.

Webster’s case was filed against a woman named Karen Brewer, an Australian who the court believes may now live in New Zealand. Though she is basically unknown outside of the online communities in which she spends much of her time, Brewer – which may not be her real name – is one of Australia’s leading conspiracy agitators.

Brewer’s personal Facebook page, which has thousands of followers, is a petri dish of beguiling theories and vicious abuse. In the steady stream of live videos and posts she feeds to her thousands of followers each day, Brewer rails against vaccinations, fluoride, and the cabal of Freemasons she believes controls Australia’s parliament, judiciary, media and bureaucracy as part of an extensive paedophile protection racket.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...s-dont-know-where-to-begin-with-online-battle

I started this conversation on the poisonous lies QAnon spread about essential the entire current political system.

The only exception is Donald Trump personally, who they believe has been sent to the White House "to clear the stinking, fetid mess of pedophiles and satanists " currently in the Deep State.

Their profile in Australia has been raised with the efforts by National Party member Anne Websters efforts to stop the repeated libellous rubbish QAnon is spreading through her community.

It turns out however that trying to use the legal system to stop this travesty is not as straightforward as one might think. They were the articles I referenced.

Wayne's contribution to the discussion was to attempt to tie Q Anons gross libel with the Covington case - as if somehow .. what ?

I don't know Wayne .

Is the story about Q Anon Fake News ? Is it all just a smear from the Fake News media trying to destroy the valiant people who truly understand what is happening today ?

 

[moXJO]

Jacob Blake. Probably best watching it on mute. This was the least opinionated commentary I could find.

Jacob had been arrested on an outstanding warrant. Was subdued on the ground but then resists arrest and gets up.

 

[moXJO]

The best breakdown of the Rittenhouse videos by a lawyer. Very detailed. Video of shooting starts about 10 minutes in.

 

[wayneL]

I started this conversation on the poisonous lies QAnon spread about essential the entire current political system.

The only exception is Donald Trump personally, who they believe has been sent to the White House "to clear the stinking, fetid mess of pedophiles and satanists " currently in the Deep State.

Their profile in Australia has been raised with the efforts by National Party member Anne Websters efforts to stop the repeated libellous rubbish QAnon is spreading through her community.

It turns out however that trying to use the legal system to stop this travesty is not as straightforward as one might think. They were the articles I referenced.

Wayne's contribution to the discussion was to attempt to tie Q Anons gross libel with the Covington case - as if somehow .. what ?

I don't know Wayne .

Is the story about Q Anon Fake News ? Is it all just a smear from the Fake News media trying to destroy the valiant people who truly understand what is happening today ?

I know nothing about Qanon, I don't follow that and am not a member of 4 or 8 Chan or whatever platforms are involved.

However I view fake news more in a general sense. If, and rightly so, fake news is called out on one side, it should be called out on the other.

My point with mentioning Sandmann, is that to this day that you have never called out the fake news that portrayed Sandmann as a racist that was hassling some poor native American, even when it was unequivocally proven to be fake news and an absolute travesty... His only "crime" seemingly to be wearing a red hat with a fairly innocuous phrase expressing a wish to improve his country. (But would be interested in hearing your take on that)

So you see the greater point here is that fake news does have an effect on the community. However it also seems that you are willing to ignore the effect on the community of some fake news but not the other.

This exposes you as a disingenuous hypocrite, a partisan, a propagandist, and other labels which I probably should not mention here.

 

[moXJO]

media can paint things anyway that they want. But things are not always as black and white.
I don't support taking guns to these events as its asking for trouble and escalates even more.

George took fentanyl, possibly to hide it from police.

Fentanyl is about 100 times stronger than morphine and there is a small margin between the therapeutic dose and toxic dose. Therefore, it is very easy to overdose on the drug. Fentanyl acts very quickly inside the body and this fast action can cause you to stop breathing much quicker than other drugs and therefore has a much greater chance of overdose.

That does not excuse that the cop didn't check on him. But it adds another layer.


People blab sht on here as do the media. But these are often dangerous and highly emotion situations where people on both sides will make wrong decisions. In saying that there are also shtbags on both sides. But they deserve a minimum of facts either way.

 

[moXJO]

Portland shooting. This seemed like a straight out execution.



"We have some MAGA's here"

"This guy"

Bang

 

[basilio]

I know nothing about Qanon, I don't follow that and am not a member of 4 or 8 Chan or whatever platforms are involved.

However I view fake news more in a general sense. If, and rightly so, fake news is called out on one side, it should be called out on the other.

My point with mentioning Sandmann, is that to this day that you have never called out the fake news that portrayed Sandmann as a racist that was hassling some poor native American, even when it was unequivocally proven to be fake news and an absolute travesty... His only "crime" seemingly to be wearing a red hat with a fairly innocuous phrase expressing a wish to improve his country. (But would be interested in hearing your take on that)

So you see the greater point here is that fake news does have an effect on the community. However it also seems that you are willing to ignore the effect on the community of some fake news but not the other.

This exposes you as a disingenuous hypocrite, a partisan, a propagandist, and other labels which I probably should not mention here.

Indeed Wayne. The conversation just gets more interesting doesn't it ?

I post an issue regarding the behaviour of a world wide group of people who essentially believe

there is a worldwide cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles who rule the world, essentially, and they control everything. They control politicians, and they control the media. They control Hollywood, and they cover up their existence, essentially. And they would have continued ruling the world, were it not for the election of President Donald Trump. Now, Donald Trump in this conspiracy theory knows all about this evil cabal's wrongdoing. But one of the reasons that Donald Trump was elected was to put an end to them, basically. And now we would be ignorant of this behind-the-scenes battle of Donald Trump and the U.S. military—that everyone backs him and the evil cabal—were it not for "Q." And what "Q" is is basically a poster on 4chan, who later moved to 8chan, who reveals details about this secret behind-the-scenes battle, and also secrets about what the cabal is doing and also the mass sort of upcoming arrest events through these posts.[32]

It has become topical in Australia because of their targeting of National Member Anne Webster.

Your response to the issue story is to attack me. You say you know nothing about QAnon, appear to be disinterested in learning more (and then decline to say anything about what they are doing ).

But you are quite prepared to trash me for rising the issue because, somehow, I don't see all that Fake News you clearly refuse to acknowledge.

 

[basilio]

Updating community information on QAnon.
QAnon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search

QAnon[a] (/kjuːəˈnɒn/) is a far-right conspiracy theory[2][3][4][5][6][7] alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles running a global child sex-trafficking ring is plotting against President Donald Trump, who is battling them.[8] No part of the theory is based on fact.[9][10][11][12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

 

[wayneL]

Indeed Wayne. The conversation just gets more interesting doesn't it ?

I post an issue regarding the behaviour of a world wide group of people who essentially believe

there is a worldwide cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles who rule the world, essentially, and they control everything. They control politicians, and they control the media. They control Hollywood, and they cover up their existence, essentially. And they would have continued ruling the world, were it not for the election of President Donald Trump. Now, Donald Trump in this conspiracy theory knows all about this evil cabal's wrongdoing. But one of the reasons that Donald Trump was elected was to put an end to them, basically. And now we would be ignorant of this behind-the-scenes battle of Donald Trump and the U.S. military—that everyone backs him and the evil cabal—were it not for "Q." And what "Q" is is basically a poster on 4chan, who later moved to 8chan, who reveals details about this secret behind-the-scenes battle, and also secrets about what the cabal is doing and also the mass sort of upcoming arrest events through these posts.[32]

It has become topical in Australia because of their targeting of National Member Anne Webster.

Your response to the issue story is to attack me. You say you know nothing about QAnon, appear to be disinterested in learning more (and then decline to say anything about what they are doing ).

But you are quite prepared to trash me for rising the issue because, somehow, I don't see all that Fake News you clearly refuse to acknowledge.

Which fake news do I refuse to acknowledge?

That in itself is fake news, bas.

Therefore, you are fake news.

How is it that my point in highlighting that there is fake news on both sides and that we should all be cognizant of that, a failure to acknowledge fake news?

Additionally, I am not attacking you, however I am highlighting that you are indulging in propaganda to further some bizarre political aim. the reason your agenda eludes me is, as I have stated before, none of us can actually vote in the United States federal elections.

Once more, your accusation that I am attacking you, contains an implication that you are not attacking me. This is probably your most amusing proposition yet, bas.

As pointed at before, your fakery is tiresome and and though amusing for me, is way too easy to expose.

However I'm an adult and am quite happy to withstand the same, even if I am kind of giggling about it all, especially your feigned (or perhaps not lol) indignation.

 

[wayneL]

Updating community information on QAnon.
QAnon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search

QAnon[a] (/kjuːəˈnɒn/) is a far-right conspiracy theory[2][3][4][5][6][7] alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles running a global child sex-trafficking ring is plotting against President Donald Trump, who is battling them.[8] No part of the theory is based on fact.[9][10][11][12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

Ah okay... Was not aware of the paedophile angle... That actually makes the whole thing a little bit more interesting.

The Epstein, Gisella (or whatever the **** her name is), fiasco does make it all a little bit intriguing, bas.

I think implications of paedophilia even if tenuous, deserves some sort of investigation.

There are *few things I could think of that are more heinious and while I don't agree that unsubstantiated accusations should be leveled in public, for the protection of our children it's worth following legitimate leads.

What do you think?

 

[basilio]

Ah okay... Was not aware of the paedophile angle... That actually makes the whole thing a little bit more interesting.

The Epstein, Gisella (or whatever the **** her name is), fiasco does make it all a little bit intriguing, bas.

I think implications of paedophilia even if tenuous, deserves some sort of investigation.

There are *few things I could think of that are more heinious and while I don't agree that unsubstantiated accusations should be leveled in public, for the protection of our children it's worth following legitimate leads.

What do you think?

I quoted the the accusations made by QAnon against Anne Webster in the original articles I posted.
They are appalling.
There is no evidence of any sort beyond the general view of QAnon that there is world wide band of pedophiles running the world and being protected by newly elected members (who don't share their view.)
It is just a vicious, disgusting smear.

 

[basilio]

How is it that my point in highlighting that there is fake news on both sides and that we should all be cognizant of that, a failure to acknowledge fake news? 1)

Additionally, I am not attacking you, however I am highlighting that you are indulging in propaganda to further some bizarre political aim. 2)

1) Because you refused to even acknowledge the issue of what is happening to Anne Webster.

2) Publicly stating that anything I say can be dismissed because you believe I am a total propagandist seems to be a bit of a personal attack.

 

[SirRumpole]

Australian MP takes on conspiracy theorist in court but experts don't know where to begin with online battle

A very disturbing article and quite right of you to point it out bas.

And in case any zealots think that this is a Leftist rant , shall we point out that Anne Webster is a Nationals MP.

Why this mob decided to pick on her who knows ?

What it does highlight though is the danger of Facebook and other social media allowing defamatory posts to be made against people and only withdrawing them after the damage is done.

Webster is suing the poster when she should also be suing Facebook as a conspirator, her chances of getting anything out of Karen Brewer seem remote.

 

[wayneL]

1) Because you refused to even acknowledge the issue of what is happening to Anne Webster.

2) Publicly stating that anything I say can be dismissed because you believe I am a total propagandist seems to be a bit of a personal attack.

When did I refuse to acknowledge this bas?

 

[basilio]

When did I refuse to acknowledge this bas?

On each and every post you subsequently wrote on this topic.

Not once did you suggest or say the slandering of QAnon towards Kate Webster was wrong.

You simply managed to ignore the issue and attacked me as a propagandist who should be ignored.

 

[wayneL]

Oh, so every topic I don't comment about I refuse to acknowledge?

That is such an asinine comment, baz, it doesn't even dignify a response.... utterly moronic.

This is why the left can't win an election