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Fake news and its effect on the community

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Why this mob decided to pick on her who knows ?
I think its to do with the pedophile protection laws and who allowed them to be voted in(don't quote me on that though). There is a huge list of mps on the site listed. Both Labor and libs. This isn't directed at just one party.
 
Oh, so every topic I don't comment about I refuse to acknowledge?

That is such an asinine comment, baz, it doesn't even dignify a response.... utterly moronic.

This is why the left can't win an election

Wayne, you had many options after I posted the story about Q Anons libelous attack on National MP Anne Webster.

1) Don't say anything. As you rightfully point out no one has to comment/respond to a post. I wasn't in any way asking for your thoughts. It certainly wasn't directed to you. It's always our decision on whether to respond to a post on ASF.

2) Respond to the posts contents in some way. You might express concern. Perhaps interest. Maybe question it further ? Lot's of options aren't there ?

3) Sidetrack the discussion by bringing a completely unrelated topic. ie "whataboutitism. So you chose to do that by throwing up the Covington Boy. Just throwing the usual dead cat on the discussion table

I then used the next couple of posts to reinforce the issue of how Q Anon was poisoning the community with its baseless, disgusting lies about political leaders.

Your response was simply to attack me as a propagandist with a political agenda who should be ignored. Cool..:cool:

You then professed ignorance about Q Anon :rolleyes: so I posted some easily found information on the conspiracy theories they construct and re stated the accusations they made about Anne Webster.

Your response was quite muted. If anything (and I chose not to pursue this) you might have been saying "Lets investigate these accusations"

I think implications of paedophilia even if tenuous, deserves some sort of investigation.

There are *few things I could think of that are more heinious and while I don't agree that unsubstantiated accusations should be leveled in public, for the protection of our children it's worth following legitimate leads.

What do you think? Wayne L

So to return to the topic ..

According to a statement of claim seen by Guardian Australia, posts made about the federal MP in April claimed, without any factual basis, that she was “a member of a secretive pedophile network” who had been “parachuted into parliament to protect a past generation of pedophiles”.

Within weeks of the case being filed, Justice Michael Wheelahan made urgent orders for the defendant to remove the posts, labelling them “vile” and describing the legal action as “one of those exceptional cases” where the court could order the removal of the allegedly defamatory material before a trial.

“Given the potency of the allegations [in the] online posts, the scandal created may well reach quarters that cannot be known … this is one of those rare cases where damages may not be an adequate remedy,” Wheelahan said.

...Though Brewer is not outwardly affiliated with QAnon, many of her beliefs line up with the conspiracy. Webster’s defamation claim, which also includes her husband and a not-for-profit women’s organisation called Zoe Support Australia that they founded together in Mildura, alleges the posts falsely accused the couple of founding the women’s organisation to “access young children on behalf of a secretive pedophilia network”.

You didn't have to make any comments about this story Wayne. But when you repeatedly did it was just to throw dead cats on the table and attempt to paint a purely factual news report of an upcoming serious libel action as some propaganda exercise.

And you chose to never suggest or say the behavior of QAnon towards Kate Webster was unacceptable.

But then we realised where you stood from yesterday evening when you threw Covington under the bus.



 
Your post was too long and most likely to be as fallacious as your previous tries, so didn't read it. However for clarity, there is nothing in my posts that disputes the substance of the Qanon thing. Don't know enough about it.

But I do know enough about you to cut through your purpose here. Hence my comments, which I stand by 100%. To wit, you are super selective in your outrage, accurately reflecting the psychopathology I named above.

Gute nacht, Komrade.
 
Russian agency created fake leftwing news outlet with fictional editors, Facebook says

Internet Research Agency also hired real, unwitting freelance reporters in operation Facebook has removed

The Russian agency that interfered in the 2016 US election created a fake leftwing news publication, staffed it with fake editors with AI-generated photos and hired real freelance reporters as part of a fresh influence operation detected and removed by Facebook, the company said on Tuesday.

The latest operation by the Internet Research Agency (IRA) was still in its early stages when it was detected thanks to a tip from the FBI, according to Facebook’s head of security policy, Nathaniel Gleicher. The network had 13 accounts and two pages, with about 14,000 total followers.

....Major topics for the site included armed conflict, human rights abuses (especially by the US and UK), corruption, and the environment, as well as WikiLeaks, the coronavirus pandemic and the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ook-russia-internet-research-agency-fake-news
 
Russian agency created fake leftwing news outlet with fictional editors, Facebook says

Internet Research Agency also hired real, unwitting freelance reporters in operation Facebook has removed

The Russian agency that interfered in the 2016 US election created a fake leftwing news publication, staffed it with fake editors with AI-generated photos and hired real freelance reporters as part of a fresh influence operation detected and removed by Facebook, the company said on Tuesday.

The latest operation by the Internet Research Agency (IRA) was still in its early stages when it was detected thanks to a tip from the FBI, according to Facebook’s head of security policy, Nathaniel Gleicher. The network had 13 accounts and two pages, with about 14,000 total followers.

....Major topics for the site included armed conflict, human rights abuses (especially by the US and UK), corruption, and the environment, as well as WikiLeaks, the coronavirus pandemic and the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ook-russia-internet-research-agency-fake-news
A few of you left leaning guys were caught quoting from Russian sources. Multiple times. It wasn't that hard to tell either.
 
A few of you left leaning guys were caught quoting from Russian sources. Multiple times. It wasn't that hard to tell either.

If Bas was a Russian agent as you seem to imply , he wouldn't be quoting an article outing the Russians for underhand behaviour would he ?

Lets get a grip here and treat each story on their merits shall we ?

In other words , play the ball not the man.
 
If Bas was a Russian agent as you seem to imply , he wouldn't be quoting an article outing the Russians for underhand behaviour would he ?

Lets get a grip here and treat each story on their merits shall we ?

In other words , play the ball not the man.
People here were quoting Russian propaganda news sites. Regularly.
How on earth did you come away as bas being a Russian agent from my post.
 
Your above quote.

Playing your impressions of the poster rather than what they post.
People did quote from Russian news sources which I had to consistently point out. That's a fact.

Bas did quote from similar sources at the start but quickly adjusted when it was pointed out. He wasn't a consistent offender.

Its also in direct relation to what he posted.

Thirdly I will happily point it out if you nubs are posting crap.
 
Thirdly I will happily point it out if you nubs are posting crap.

Well you implied that he posted crap by who he was not what he posted. You made no comment on the actual article he posted, why not ?

Nub.
 
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Well you implied that he posted crap by who he was not what he posted. You made no comment on the actual article he posted, why not ?

Nub.
I did make a comment that posters here had already partaken in what the article laid out. That was over the past 5 years.

I implied crap posting which included you. I didn't just specify bas, hence "you nubs". Which suggests more then one
 
I did make a comment that posters here had already partaken in what the article laid out. That was over the past 5 years.

I implied crap posting which included you. I didn't just specify bas, hence "you nubs". Which suggests more then one

Once again, quote a post of mine that proves your point.
 
No point in going on with it. Everything you disagree with is crap.

So be it.
Unresearched media opinion masquerading as completely truthful is crap.

You saying I think bas is a Russian spy is crap.
If he was Russian then apparently he would be supporting Trump.
 
The narrative the Trump administration is running is that the US is being trashed by violent, destructive BLM riots.

However when an independent body checks these demonstrations what does it see ?

Nearly all Black Lives Matter protests are peaceful despite Trump narrative, report finds
In stark contrast to rightwing claims, 93% of demonstrations have involved no serious harm to people or property

The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

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New York police hunt car that drove into BLM protesters in Times Square
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The new data on protests and the US government’s response comes from the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data project (Acled), an organization that has long tracked political violence and unrest in regions around the world, together with Princeton University’s Bridging Divides Initiative.

Data assembled by Acled has been viewed as a reliable source of information on the death toll in Yemen, civilians killed by governments in Africa and political violence against women, among other conflicts. The organization launched a new “US crisis monitor” project this year, concerned that the US is “at heightened risk of political violence and instability going into the 2020 general election”.

The results of the study present a stark contrast to claims made by the Trump administration, and widely circulated by Fox News and other rightwing media outlets, that the US is being overrun by violent leftwing protesters and “domestic terrorists”.

“There have been some violent demonstrations, and those tend to get a lot of media coverage,” Dr Roudabeh Kishi, Acled’s director of research & innovation, told the Guardian. “But if you were to look at all the demonstrations happening, it’s overwhelmingly peaceful.”

Between late May and the end of the August, Acled and Princeton researchers documented 7,750 demonstrations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement in more than 2,000 different locations across the United States, as well as more than 1,000 protests related to Covid-19. About a third of the Covid-19 protests were linked to schools reopening, the report found, all of them peaceful protests. There were also at least 70 documented protests over Covid-19 involving healthcare workers, and at least 37 demonstrations focused on the eviction crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds
 
The narrative the Trump administration is running is that the US is being trashed by violent, destructive BLM riots.

However when an independent body checks these demonstrations what does it see ?

Nearly all Black Lives Matter protests are peaceful despite Trump narrative, report finds
In stark contrast to rightwing claims, 93% of demonstrations have involved no serious harm to people or property

The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

5330.jpg
New York police hunt car that drove into BLM protesters in Times Square
Read more

The new data on protests and the US government’s response comes from the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data project (Acled), an organization that has long tracked political violence and unrest in regions around the world, together with Princeton University’s Bridging Divides Initiative.

Data assembled by Acled has been viewed as a reliable source of information on the death toll in Yemen, civilians killed by governments in Africa and political violence against women, among other conflicts. The organization launched a new “US crisis monitor” project this year, concerned that the US is “at heightened risk of political violence and instability going into the 2020 general election”.

The results of the study present a stark contrast to claims made by the Trump administration, and widely circulated by Fox News and other rightwing media outlets, that the US is being overrun by violent leftwing protesters and “domestic terrorists”.

“There have been some violent demonstrations, and those tend to get a lot of media coverage,” Dr Roudabeh Kishi, Acled’s director of research & innovation, told the Guardian. “But if you were to look at all the demonstrations happening, it’s overwhelmingly peaceful.”

Between late May and the end of the August, Acled and Princeton researchers documented 7,750 demonstrations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement in more than 2,000 different locations across the United States, as well as more than 1,000 protests related to Covid-19. About a third of the Covid-19 protests were linked to schools reopening, the report found, all of them peaceful protests. There were also at least 70 documented protests over Covid-19 involving healthcare workers, and at least 37 demonstrations focused on the eviction crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds
You remind me of this guy:

 
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Protesters demanding justice for Breonna Taylor are confronted by far-right activists and self-described militia members during their march to Churchill Downs earlier Saturday. (at the Kentucky Derby)
 
Background on Breonna Taylor death from a police raid.

Short story. Taylor, a 26-year-old emergency room technician, was struck by eight police bullets in March as officers attempted to serve a no-knock warrant on her home during a narcotics investigation. Her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired his gun first, believing intruders were invading their home and striking an officer in the leg. Officers returned fire. No drugs were found in the home.

Why the officers who shot and killed Breonna Taylor may never be arrested
Breonna Taylor

A tangled legal doctrine in Kentucky means a kind of self-defense stalemate that leaves a lot of questions over what charges a prosecutor could bring against the officers
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...taylor-killing-officers-may-never-be-arrested
 
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