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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198

20, 30 years ago I was not an EV fan. Went to industry shows and technical conferences and saw that we were not even close to have EVs on the road in commercial quantities. Tesla changed all that.

Hydrogen is another that I have watched for a long time, even had a retired engineer develop his own Hydrogen powered car in the back of our business, converted an old Torana. the biggest problem with hydrogen is the cost of the fueling system, tanks and safety.

 
The Blade Electric car was simple and for its time effective. I think 10-15 years later with upgraded batteries, the concept of swapping a stock standard ICE car with EV running gear could still make sense. I think GE (2008- 2015) Honda Jazz cars would be a smart looking possibility

 
I have decided to take a break from this thread, life is too short to read endless crap about how an EV is saving money vs an equivalent ICE, and not to mention the supposedly better fossil fuel efficiency on the whole time life.
Still interested in the tech side, but news feed will do that.
There are obvious arguments: engineering fun, absence of inner city exhausts, and even stop start ( busses, garbage trucks, etc) where EV are a no brainers.
But until someone can point to a spreadsheet detailing how a 20k km a year car user in qld is better off $ wise using an EV vs equivalent ICE (orange for orange) I am out ..
And no, a tesla is not equivalent to a luxury car
Similarly, when on a life cycle Inc building disposal, per km, an EV in Australia consumes less fossil fuel than a diesel ICE, msg me and I will join again.
in the meantime, trying to focus on life
 
Indeed, as people with basic sciences know, hydrogen is leaky as hell so the need to either stock it only temporarily or with nitrogen as ammonia ..which can directly be used for ICE..heavy trucks or ships for example
 
Indeed, as people with basic sciences know, hydrogen is leaky as hell so the need to either stock it only temporarily or with nitrogen as ammonia ..which can directly be used for ICE..heavy trucks or ships for example
What happened to metal hydride hydrogen storage?
 
I have literally posted a scientific article that explains batteries don’t consume more fissile fuels that Batteries, but you don’t seem to want to accept it. but think about the Math of what you are saying,

it costs Tesla $6,000 to manufacture the Model 3 batteries, now even if that $6000 cost was just 100% diesel eg no wages or other equipment charges, a diesel car burns way more than $6,000 of diesel.

secondly...Tesla not a luxury??? I don’t know but for me a car that drives itself on my long trips is a pretty big luxury but I guess we al value different things.

I travel a bit, so end up renting cars a few times a year, and every time I drive a cheap petrol, I can tell you I miss the Tesla, getting back into the smooth, quite drive of a Tesla, with all its features which none of the cheaper cars seem to ever and not having to go to petrol stations also seems like a luxury to me, but again I guess people value different things
 
I'm still not sold on evs. Multiple reasons.
Some of those reasons is the large scale adoption that needs to happen. I just can't see it happening at the moment due to issues with infrastructure and practicality.

I was arguing with someone on here back in I think 2017 - 2019 about how I thought it would take a decade to see large scale adoption. They argued it would be 2 years and evs were ready to go. I still don't see many of the concerns I had then being addressed now.

Even when we do hit numbers I can see a whole other set of problems opening up.
 
When Australia's largest vehicle roadside assistance group decides to join up with tech commentators and produce a national podcast, you should take notice.


 

You will be missed.
 
Choose an EV model that is also sold in California, the battery will most likely last longer than others.

EVs have long battery warranties, and most can be expected to offer a usable life of between eight and 12 years. Automakers are required to provide at least an eight-year/100,000-mile warranty for electric vehicles, and EVs sold in California are required to have a ten-year/150,000-mile battery warranty.

 
Wouldn't want an EV when this happens. Victorians without power.
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I've got one and I agree 100%.
At the moment I would put it like this, a tuk tuk is great in Kuta, I'm not sure it will be the goto form of transport in country Australia.
We find our EV great and we love it, but we aren't completely dependent on it, as we were 30 years ago, where work and family comitments were far greater.
But eventually it will all find a balance, at the moment there is a lot of affirmative action eventually a balance will be found.
 
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Wouldn't want an EV when this happens. Victorians without power.
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Why, can your petrol bowser run without electricity?

Any way, I would think most people with EV's are charging their cars daily they don't wait till they are empty to fill up like petrol folk, so if the power goes off they would be pretty full and could go a few days without power, not to mention that they can just drive some where else and use a public charger if they really needed to, like a petrol car would have to do anyway.

Also, if you are a real Tesla fan with a Tesla home battery you would just continue charging at home off grid, while other people sit in the dark.
 
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