Electric cars?

[qldfrog]

Remember in the early days of this thread, we were talking about EV's and autonomous driving vehicles, will allow them to require less safety features and maybe they could be made from extruded recycled plastic materials, well as the guy says they have gone the other way and added the weight of a battery to an already heavy car.
Even my Kona which is a small car weighs nearly 2 ton.
Obviously it is a work in progress, but again Govt's need to be realistic with ADR rules surrounding EV's, if they want them to be practicle city vehicles that people will buy.
To get better range they need to reduce weight and size, after all people ride motorbikes and small scooters around, so cars like the Renault Twizy should be allowed to be sold.
It is like everything the Governments do, poorly thought out and poorly implemented.
City cars need to be re classified, so that smaller more practicle ones can be introduced IMO.

Renault Twizy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Remember my ev city cars pictures from Europe.
These can be an actual gap filling market, but not $60k EV for mortgage belt cash strapped aussies

 

[JohnDe]

Europe, Japan and China have restarted development of the internal combustion engine.

EV sales are falling.

Are EV manufacturers going in the wrong direction?

Who is this guy, all I can find about him is -



No wonder we’re in such a mess, people just jump on anything that supports their narrative without thinking about research and responsibility.

 

[SirRumpole]

Who is this guy, all I can find about him is -

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No wonder we’re in such a mess, people just jump on anything that supports their narrative without thinking about research and responsibility.

That's right, play the man not the ball.

 

[JohnDe]

That's right, play the man not the ball.

That’s exactly how the woke left responded to any kind of protest against disinformation.

Make a claim with dubious evidence, and then shut anyone down that question it.

 

[qldfrog]

Who is this guy, all I can find about him is -

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No wonder we’re in such a mess, people just jump on anything that supports their narrative without thinking about research and responsibility.

Are is facts true or false.
Anything else is unrelated BS

 

[qldfrog]

That’s exactly how the woke left responded to any kind of protest against disinformation.

Make a claim with dubious evidence, and then shut anyone down that question it.

So please explain John: i have not even watched the video but IMHO, your reaction is "misguided".
Are facts and number quoted wrong.?
Anyway, you are living the EV dream , good on you.

 

[JohnDe]

Are is facts true or false.
Anything else is unrelated BS

Sorry, I don’t understand your sentence.

 

[JohnDe]

So please explain John: i have not even watched the video but IMHO, your reaction is "misguided".
Are facts and number quoted wrong.?
Anyway, you are living the EV dream , good on you.

Then why are you commenting?

 

[qldfrog]

Then why are you commenting?

Because i see an attack on a man, shoot the messenger, and whatever the man, the idea, the subject it is wrong and disappointing from you : you are not usually at that level.
And the reason i specified i had not even watched..i do not really care what he says , whether i agree or not.
But hey, you are free to play the man, our media are doing that endlessly.

 

[qldfrog]

I will stop on that one, watch the video and if relevant, discuss the topic, but not the man...

 

[JohnDe]

Because i see an attack on a man, shoot the messenger, and whatever the man, the idea, the subject it is wrong and disappointing from you : you are not usually at that level.
And the reason i specified i had not even watched..i do not really care what he says , whether i agree or not.
But hey, you are free to play the man, our media are doing that endlessly.

Blah blah blah. You are doing the same thing as what I mentioned above, and you don’t even realise.

That is why the world has changed to the point that you have to complain about it.

someone asks a question and the vocal minority responds with aggression.

I asked a simple question “who is the guy” I would like to know about the person making claims about the car industry, which is 7 months old.

And I show all I could find, from his own YouTube channel.

A reasonable person would either answer if they have an answer, or ignore if they don’t.

That’s how civilised discussion works.

 

[qldfrog]

Well, no more vocal from me

 

[mullokintyre]

Got the following email from Tesla Oz.
Must have a surfeit of Model 3's.
Pity that if I was going to buy a Tesla, it would be a model Y.
Mick

 

[Knobby22]

Ev sales in oz..was surprised by ranking
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Tesla sedan Model 3 as per above post also, looks in trouble.
You can buy the MG64 essence which is the top of the range version that has everything for $47,000-$53,000. Or the shorter range basic version excite for $35,000.
Very competitive with Tesla and Hyundai whom I rate the top two non Chinese competitors.

Where is Toyota?
New 3rd generation Nissan leaf due this year so sales may be a run out.

 

[qldfrog]

Tesla sedan Model 3 as per above post also, looks in trouble.
You can buy the MG64 essence which is the top of the range version that has everything for $47,000-$53,000. Or the shorter range basic version excite for $35,000.
Very competitive with Tesla and Hyundai whom I rate the top two non Chinese competitors.

Where is Toyota?
New 3rd generation Nissan leaf due this year so sales may be a run out.

Thanks, that could explain the leaf indeed

 

[sptrawler]

Got the following email from Tesla Oz.
Must have a surfeit of Model 3's.
Pity that if I was going to buy a Tesla, it would be a model Y.
Mick
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Yes a friend is in the panel beating business, he showed me a video he took of a paddock load of Teslas.
The new models coming out must be putting a bit of pressure on to move the excess stock.