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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
I wasn’t trying to change your mind, I literally said “yeah, maybe in your extreme case stick to petrol cars for a few years”

but when you think about it, once the infrastructure is set up EV’s suit remote locations, because regional Australia can make a lot of electricity locally, where as at the moment you guys rely on bringing in oil based fuels from the other side of the world.

picture a few refueling/charging stations powered by a solar and battery system like the one pictured below, it would be much more efficient than bringing in fuel from across the world on ships and trucks, even if you had it backed up by a diesel generator than ran one day a month, or it could just be attached to a grid connection, given it has batteries it wouldn’t need a large capacity grid connection.

don’t you at least think generating your own fuel in the regions rather than bringing it in from overseas is an interesting concept?

 
Indeed, I actually thought all Tesla sold here now were China sourced?
They are, But I was in the America talking to an American, hence why I said to him they were “All American” eg made in America, Fuelled by America. So they should really appeal to him, turned out that worked, after that he went from being quite aggressively cynical about them, to actually being more curious and asking some good questions.

As the conversation progressed he did let slip that one of the reasons he feared them was because his family worked in the oil business, I assured him that the oil and gas business would still be around for a long time, and that actually the green energy business was good for the natural gas market over the next 20-30 years and that that over time the renewables business will be a big employer too, with lots of high paying jobs and passive income for land owners, his face seemed to brighten as he connected the dots.
 
Like CO2 but note the latest data is from 2016.
We are 14 on the list in total emissions, but all the countries that emit more than us do so because they have larger populations,

When you switch that Table to a per capita format, eg the emissions per person, it’s basically only oil states that are worse than us.

It shows we have a lot of room for improvement.
 
All good VC.
Producing locally already. We have solar and wind farms out here, from memory both are AGL.

Canandian mob Hydorstar currently transforming an old mine for its Advanced Compressed Air Energy Storage (A-CAES) project.

Reads in part:
As of 8 Dec 2023
Concludes with:

That 8hr supply will certainly help with the long outages we have out here from time to time.

Why chose our location for this project?
Stable, hard rock geology plus, lots of mining projects wanting to get up and running, all requiring reliable energy.

Christ, with the current Green Transition all abuzz, there was even talk of building a slurry pipeline to send ore for treatment into the smelters and ports down to Port Pirie and surrounds in Sth Aust.

Big ore deposits, big ideas, big money, all looking for big ROC/ROI.

Back to EV.
I certainly acknowledge that EV is an inevitable part of and a positive for change.
 
One day, instead of billions of dollars a year flowing out of our cities of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane to Over Seas Oil Cartels, will have that cash flowing into the regions of Australia that produce the renewable electricity and fuel that feeds into our cities.

It will be the same story here that I explained to that Good ol’ boy from Kentucky, Land owners and working people in the regions and their communities should see dollars flowing their way that would normally head to the Oil cartels.
 
As is always the case in the industry, the premium vehicles introduce the technology and sell, and then that technology trickles down. Volvo is going full steam ahead with BEVs.

 
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That was a good article I thought.

I saw a road test of a KIA EV9. Seems like a good car but...at $120k it's a rotten deal.

Sure you will save of fuel costs but that is just too much for a family car.
Especially when you consider the ICE equivalent, the KIA Carnivale , has a base model at $47k.
my son desperately wanted to use a Novated lease for the EV9 (for tax purposes naturally), but the credit co's says his credit was already running thin after all the housing loan repayments.
Going to keep running his dodgy 1997 Range Rover diesel until interest rates come down.
And before any of the Tesla owners chime in and ask why he does not lease a Tesla, he has three kid all in booster seats, a pram and a dog.
Mick
 
That was a good article I thought.

I saw a road test of a KIA EV9. Seems like a good car but...at $120k it's a rotten deal.

Sure you will save of fuel costs but that is just too much for a family car.

I checked that out. The $120 k version is the GT souped up deal. The base version is $97k and certainly not shabby in terms of range and power. Having said that the Kia website quoted an extra $10k for drive away pricing.

 
You sound like an ICE driver, talking about how many EV's sold 20 years ago.


When was the first electric car sold in Australia?


2008

Australia's first electric car: The Blade Electron

The Blade Electron was an Australian electric car produced in Victoria between 2008 and 2014. Based on a Hyundai Getz, powered by a 55kW electric motor, with an approximate range of 120 kilometres.


 
I think it is another sign of the EV current fall of grace, give it a year and we will be in a different mindset with more realism.
I think it is actually beneficial to real advances and a more prosaic scientic and technological approach.
I am afraid the same will not be followed on the whole power grid approach, and absolutely brain-dead decisions on wind and solar farms approaches.
EVs still have some people spending their own cash, and so involved in the ROI..whereas for the grid, governing bodies use your taxes, and your children's and yet to be born grandchildren's...
 
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