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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.8%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.6%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.8%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.7%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    197
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SirRumpole said:
SirRumpole said:
The rest of the world is switching to EV's , albeit slowly, but we will be behind the curve as usual.
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Maybe it’s just because I drive one myself so I notice them more, But I am seeing Ship loads of Tesla’s on the roads now, and I am noticing other brands too.

A year ago if you saw another Model 3 you would give them a wave, because it was rare, Now there is to many to bother waving, hahaha
 
sptrawler said:
We obviously have a way to go yet, with autonomous driving cars.
www.drive.com.au

Toyota suspends autonomous shuttle bus program after vehicle hits pedestrian – UPDATE

A Paralympian was left battered and bruised last week, after Toyota's ‘e-Palette’ autonomous transporter failed to stop at a pedestrian crossing.
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Well, human drivers hit pedestrians quite regularly, so often infact it doesn’t even make the news.

about 3 years ago I witnessed a car run a red light, swerve up onto the foot path, hitting a pedestrian before accelerating down the foot path for about 100M before entering an intersection and crashing into another car.

Turned out the elderly driver blacked out, but the event didn’t even make it into the local news paper, it is was an EV it would have be global news.
 
I wasn't being critical, just pointing out that even a purpose built slow moving autonomous vehicle from one of the World's leading manufacturers, still haven't got it right.
I'm sure they will, the changes and improvements I witnessed, in the instrument trade over my career were nothing short of amazing. So I'm sure autonomous driving vehicles aren't a matter of if, but when.
 
sptrawler said:
I wasn't being critical, just pointing out that even a purpose built slow moving autonomous vehicle from one of the World's leading manufacturers, still haven't got it right.
I'm sure they will, the changes and improvements I witnessed, in the instrument trade over my career were nothing short of amazing. So I'm sure autonomous driving vehicles aren't a matter of if, but when.
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I was just pointing out that even human drivers haven’t got it 100% right yet either.

Autonomous vehicles will obviously be getting better at exponential rates, but we shouldn’t expect them to be perfect ever, there will be crashes, those crashes will make the news, but they in no way are evidence that the vehicles are in safe.
 
Value Collector said:
Autonomous vehicles will obviously be getting better at exponential rates, but we shouldn’t expect them to be perfect ever, there will be crashes, those crashes will make the news, but they in no way are evidence that the vehicles are in
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On the very same subject an article about Tesla's situation, not that I think it would have any impact on Tesla, just an interesting article.
www.drive.com.au

Tesla risks $2.7 billion loss on autonomous tech gamble

Approximately 350,000 customers have paid upfront for a 'Full Self-Driving' feature that still does not exist beyond a beta testing phase.
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sptrawler said:
On the very same subject an article about Tesla's situation, not that I think it would have any impact on Tesla, just an interesting article.
www.drive.com.au

Tesla risks $2.7 billion loss on autonomous tech gamble

Approximately 350,000 customers have paid upfront for a 'Full Self-Driving' feature that still does not exist beyond a beta testing phase.
www.drive.com.au www.drive.com.au
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Version 10 is released in the USA very soon, it gets better with every update, I certainly wouldn’t bet against Tesla on delivering.
 
Value Collector said:
Version 10 is released in the USA very soon, it gets better with every update, I certainly wouldn’t bet against Tesla on delivering.
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Indeed. This is the story on The Driven. Seems to be coming out within the next couple of months. I think we should wait a sec on the $2.7Billion of clickbait.

thedriven.io

Musk says Tesla owners to get self-driving beta button with v10

Elon Musk gives another update for when Tesla owners will be able to download the company's semi-autonomous "Full Self-Driving" (FSD) beta software.
thedriven.io thedriven.io
 
Hyundai to really take it up to the opposition soon.
Me personally, I think regarding EV's things are going to get a whole lot better in the next three years, on a lot of different levels. :xyxthumbs .

www.drive.com.au

2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N spy photos: Performance electric SUV hits the track

A prototype of Hyundai’s first high-performance electric car, the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N, has been spied testing near the Nurburgring race track in Germany.
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Details of what’s powering the prototype remain thin on the ground, however it’s likely the Ioniq 5 will follow a similar path to its twin under the skin, the Kia EV6 GT, which features two upgraded electric motors developing 430kW and 740Nm, and capable of a 3.5-second dash from zero to 100km/h.
That’s a significant upgrade on the 225kW/605Nm dual-motor powertrain offered in flagship, non-N Ioniq 5 models (due in local showrooms in late 2021), which are capable of a 5.2-second 0-100km/h – comfortably making the Ioniq 5 N the most powerful and fastest-accelerating Hyundai ever built, irrespective of what’s powering it.
 
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sptrawler said:
Hyundai to really take it up to the opposition soon.
Me personally, I think regarding EV's things are going to get a whole lot better in the next three years, on a lot of different levels. :xyxthumbs .

www.drive.com.au

2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N spy photos: Performance electric SUV hits the track

A prototype of Hyundai’s first high-performance electric car, the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N, has been spied testing near the Nurburgring race track in Germany.
www.drive.com.au www.drive.com.au
From the article:
Details of what’s powering the prototype remain thin on the ground, however it’s likely the Ioniq 5 will follow a similar path to its twin under the skin, the Kia EV6 GT, which features two upgraded electric motors developing 430kW and 740Nm, and capable of a 3.5-second dash from zero to 100km/h.
That’s a significant upgrade on the 225kW/605Nm dual-motor powertrain offered in flagship, non-N Ioniq 5 models (due in local showrooms in late 2021), which are capable of a 5.2-second 0-100km/h – comfortably making the Ioniq 5 N the most powerful and fastest-accelerating Hyundai ever built, irrespective of what’s powering it.
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How long before the joy killing brigade adds an acceleration legal limit?
 
qldfrog said:
How long before the joy killing brigade adds an acceleration legal limit?
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Funny you mention that, I actually deleted a further section. Where I said there will be a sweet spot, when the bang for bucks battery to drive these monsters, will have to be V2G compliant, then you get the ultimate car with the ultimate house battery.
It is all about timing, as with shares, there will be a sweet spot my guess is 3-5 years.
Time will tell.
 
sptrawler said:
Funny you mention that, I actually deleted a further section. Where I said there will be a sweet spot, when the bang for bucks battery to drive these monsters, will have to be V2G compliant, then you get the ultimate car with the ultimate house battery.
It is all about timing, as with shares, there will be a sweet spot my guess is 3-5 years.
Time will tell.
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fast acceleration should always be balanced by effective braking , the ability to stop suddenly and safely MIGHT be the limiting point of EVs
 
divs4ever said:
fast acceleration should always be balanced by effective braking , the ability to stop suddenly and safely MIGHT be the limiting point of EVs
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That is actually the easiest part of the whole equation, they can use regenerative braking, which basically makes the electric motor a generator rather than a motor, so all power goes into charging the batteries at the expense of forward motion.
A simple explanation, just google dynamic braking.
 
even better i have driven electric fork-lifts , even with the wheels spinning in reverse you can out-run the braking once you have a load on

some very exotic techniques are required even on dry surfaces

maybe i should be investing in AMA to go with the SUL , SUN and QBE

maybe those Tesla crashes are looking at the wrong cause of the collisions
 
divs4ever said:
fast acceleration should always be balanced by effective braking , the ability to stop suddenly and safely MIGHT be the limiting point of EVs
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EV’s have both regen braking and standard disc brakes, so no issue there, as soon as you lift the foot off the accelerator the car is already regen and as you depress the brake you have both systems operating slowing the car.
 
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