Coronavirus vaccine news

[rederob]

I believe being informed is as important for investing as it is for health decisions. Just as traders rely on information from graphs and investing resources before making decisions, people rely on public health information before they take a medical-related course of action. I do not like the fact that our media hardly ever give us available facts about vaccines. Anyone can look up VAERS information, but most people do not know it exists. Here is some info from it.

Data released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on the number of injuries and deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) following COVID vaccines revealed reports of blood clots and other related blood disorders associated with all three vaccines approved for Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S. — Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson (J&J). So far, only the J&J vaccine has been paused because of blood clot concerns.

VAERS is the primary mechanism for reporting adverse vaccine reactions in the U.S. Reports submitted to VAERS require further investigation before a causal relationship can be confirmed.

Every Friday, VAERS makes public all vaccine injury reports received through a specified date, usually about a week prior to the release date. Today’s data show that between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 8, a total of 68,347 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 2,602 deaths — an increase of 260 over the previous week — and 8,285 serious injuries, up 314 since last week.

Of the 2,602 deaths reported as of April 8, 27% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination, 19% occurred within 24 hours and 41% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of being vaccinated.

In the U.S., 174.9 million COVID vaccine doses had been administered as of April 8. This includes 79.6 million doses of Moderna’s vaccine, 90.3 million doses of Pfizer and 4.9 million doses of the J&J COVID vaccine.

This week’s VAERS data show:

19% of deaths were related to cardiac disorders.

55% of those who died were male, 43% were female and the remaining death reports did not include gender of the deceased.

The average age of those who died was 77 and the youngest death was an 18-year-old. There are a few reported deaths in children under 18, but these reports contained errors.

As of April 8, 408 pregnant women had reported adverse events related to COVID vaccines, including 114 reports of miscarriage or premature birth.

Of the 678 cases of Bell’s Palsy reported, 59% of cases were reported after Pfizer-BioNTech vaccinations, 38% following vaccination with the Moderna vaccine and 24 cases (4%) of Bell’s Palsy were reported with J&J.

There were 77 reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome with 55% of cases attributed to Pfizer, 40% to Moderna and 10% to J&J.

Just like the Tesla crash that killed two people yesterday these adverse reactions are 'very rare' and worth the risk because of the greater risk of the disease (or error-prone human-controlled vehicles) unless it happens to you!

The data shows the difference between efficacy - based on young, healthy people in the main - and observational effectiveness.
Nobody seems in a hurry to pinpoint causal relationships.
Clots!

 

[sptrawler]

Personally living in W.A, I have decided to put travel plans on hold until 2023, so if possible I will hold off having the vaccine until it is time to travel.
Of course this could change if the incidence of cases in W.A increases and or the vaccine becomes compulsory.
I'm not anti vax, far from it, just a personal choice on this vaccine, if I lived on the East Coast my decision could be different.

And to prove my point, this pops up on the ABC website.

Just 100 of Australia's 6,000 residential disability centres have administered COVID vaccines, government told — as it happened

Despite being in the first phase of the nation's coronavirus vaccination rollout, an expert says there has only been a "trickle" of vaccines to residents of disability centres.

www.abc.net.au

 

[pozindustrial]

"..says Australia's vaccines are "100 per cent prevention against serious illness, hospitalisation and loss of life"." Complete BS. This is the problem we face.

 

[IFocus]

Actually a bit shocked that only 7% have been vaccinated.


"Fewer than 7% of disability care residents have so far received a dose of Covid vaccine, leaving 25,000 residents unvaccinated despite being in the top priority group."

Fewer than 7% of disability care residents in Australia have received Covid jab

Health department also reveals a reduction in the number of young people wanting to take the vaccine

www.theguardian.com

 

[Humid]

Actually a bit shocked that only 7% have been vaccinated.


"Fewer than 7% of disability care residents have so far received a dose of Covid vaccine, leaving 25,000 residents unvaccinated despite being in the top priority group."

Fewer than 7% of disability care residents in Australia have received Covid jab

Health department also reveals a reduction in the number of young people wanting to take the vaccine

www.theguardian.com

They said would be all done by easter

 

[grah33]

https://banned.video/watch?id=609238dcf609210fc6b0c516

Independent Scientist Attacked For Speaking Truth To COVID​

(yet to watch this myself)

 

[rederob]

https://banned.video/watch?id=609238dcf609210fc6b0c516

Independent Scientist Attacked For Speaking Truth To COVID​

(yet to watch this myself)

Nutjobs are everywhere!

Here's how well Australia is tracking:

Pathetic!

 

[rederob]

Maybe there is a good case for looking at the Middle East for our next "travel bubble"?

 

[Belli]

I had the first shot of the AstraZeneca last Friday week. Sore arm at the injection site for a couple of days but apart from that no other issue. Next shot in three months time. I'm taking low dose (100mg) Asprin following surgery a while ago so that will mitigate potential blood clot issues.

 

[rederob]

The below chart differs from post #308 in that it is a "rollout" statistic so shows the pace of vaccinations on a 7-day average basis.
So let's see how we are comparing with some other nations on rollout:

Hardly a picture of success, but at least there is progress. Just over 3 million doses administered in total so far, so unless things improve we are looking at late 2022 before herd immunity is achieved.

 

[rederob]

I had the first shot of the AstraZeneca last Friday week. Sore arm at the injection site for a couple of days but apart from that no other issue. Next shot in three months time. I'm taking low dose (100mg) Asprin following surgery a while ago so that will mitigate potential blood clot issues.

Not meaning to rain on your parade @Belli since you were already taking medication, but this is what is on the government website:

 

[Belli]

Not meaning to rain on your parade @Belli since you were already taking medication, but this is what is on the government website:

Thank you for the info @rederob.

I should have clarified my GP did mention that and also had a chat with the specialist (Vascular surgeon) about it.

Actually, I'm not the slightest bit concerned. I have a greater likelihood of injury or death driving from here (Canberra) to Eden and back than I have of getting a blood clot from the vaccine. Come to think of it I probably had a higher chance of death or becoming a quadriplegic as a result of the surgery or the general anesthetic when I underwent those procedures and did so without much worry despite being aware of the risks. The couple of nights afterwards in ICU was not on my agenda however,

 

[sptrawler]

It will be interesting to see if the U.K's very successful vaccination programme, is effective against the Indian strain. Who knows, maybe Morrison has called it right again, time will tell.

UK Covid Live: 20,000 arrivals allowed from India despite warnings about new variant

At least 20,000 passengers travelling from India were allowed to enter Britain despite warnings about a new strain that had emerged there. The rise of the new variant has caused tensions in Whitehall about whether the prime minister hesitated to put India on the red list because of plans to...

au.news.yahoo.com

Coronavirus fight takes worrying turn in UK

As the UK opens up and puts the worst of the pandemic behind it, a disturbing trend has dampened the optimistic mood.

au.news.yahoo.com

From the article:
As Britain opens up and puts the worst of the pandemic behind it, a disturbing trend has dampened the optimistic mood.

Cases of the Indian coronavirus variant have risen by 152 per cent in the UK in the space of a week.

New figures from Public Health England (PHE) revealed on Wednesday (local time) there were 1,313 confirmed cases involving the B.1.617.2 variant, which was first identified in India, and labelled as a variant of global concern this week by the World Health Organisation.

That's up 793 from 520 last week – demonstrating why some scientists and ministers in the UK are increasingly concerned about its spread within their own borders.

 

[IFocus]

Who knows, maybe Morrison has called it right again, time will tell.

What! After Morison told all and sundry how good our quarantine system is (ad nauseam) along with Hunt after state premiers saying hotels are not fit for purpose.

After Morrison calling for states to drop the lock downs and border closures.

Morrison then stops inbound from India... why? Because of our useless quarantine system due to fears of an out break.

Good example of how good the states quarantine systems are, two states only use P2 masks in quarantine the rest surgical masks WTF.

Morrison = BS.




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[sptrawler]

What! After Morison told all and sundry how good our quarantine system is (ad nauseam) along with Hunt after state premiers saying hotels are not fit for purpose.

After Morrison calling for states to drop the lock downs and border closures.

Morrison then stops inbound from India... why? Because of our useless quarantine system due to fears of an out break.

Good example of how good the states quarantine systems are, two states only use P2 masks in quarantine the rest surgical masks WTF.

Morrison = BS.




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I was talking about the stop on Indian repatriations, most countries are getting worried about it and I think most Australians will be pleased with the freeze.
The other Morrison call I was referring to, was in relation to the earlier post where there seems to be consensus now, that early intervention and investigations are required once an outbreak is detected.
The rest of the quarantine issues is just home and away soapy stuff, that most people don't give a ratz about IMO.
Time will tell.
I do see that Albo is getting out and about, which is good news, getting his message across as early as possible is imperative IMO.

 

[Belli]

With the apparent brouhaha surrounding the repatriation of Australian residents from India - or elsewhere - I just wonder about the logistics on it. Assuming there is a large number from India alone, I wonder, if they were able to get back, where would you put a large number for quarantine, is there sufficient resources to manage it including health checks and the like? That's apart from scheduling any repatriation flights.

I understand some health professionals have a view the exposure to the B.1.617 variant is inevitable and we should accept it is going to happen anyway. However, that is professional opinion and others have a different views. In any event, they aren't the ones who have to actually make the decisions. It is not a responsibility I would like to have to be honest.

 

[IFocus]

With the apparent brouhaha surrounding the repatriation of Australian residents from India - or elsewhere - I just wonder about the logistics on it. Assuming there is a large number from India alone, I wonder, if they were able to get back, where would you put a large number for quarantine, is there sufficient resources to manage it including health checks and the like? That's apart from scheduling any repatriation flights.

I understand some health professionals have a view the exposure to the B.1.617 variant is inevitable and we should accept it is going to happen anyway. However, that is professional opinion and others have a different views. In any event, they aren't the ones who have to actually make the decisions. It is not a responsibility I would like to have to be honest.

Even if we had proper quarantine hubs like Howard Springs out of 9000 I would imagine 10% or more maybe infectious which realistically our medical services wouldn't be able to cope with.

I suspect shutting down flights from India was more politics than anything else (given shutting state borders is very popular) the excuses came later when it back fired.

Having said that McGowan was calling for fights to stop after the last WA outbreak.

 

[sptrawler]

With the apparent brouhaha surrounding the repatriation of Australian residents from India - or elsewhere - I just wonder about the logistics on it. Assuming there is a large number from India alone, I wonder, if they were able to get back, where would you put a large number for quarantine, is there sufficient resources to manage it including health checks and the like? That's apart from scheduling any repatriation flights.

I understand some health professionals have a view the exposure to the B.1.617 variant is inevitable and we should accept it is going to happen anyway. However, that is professional opinion and others have a different views. In any event, they aren't the ones who have to actually make the decisions. It is not a responsibility I would like to have to be honest.

Well one just has to listen to todays response to the Virgin CEO, who said the borders should be opened even it it causes a few deaths.
It is o.k saying don't stop the flights, but if an outbreak does happen here and it gets out of control like Europe, the U.S, U.K and India, there is only one person who will be blamed.
As Ifocus said McGowan was quick to lock down the State and called for a reduction in repatriation flights, well he got a resounding round of applause from the W.A public.

 

[grah33]

https://banned.video/watch?id=609238dcf609210fc6b0c516

Independent Scientist Attacked For Speaking Truth To COVID​

(yet to watch this myself)

this is the 2011 Phizer CEO (or similar ) speaking.


from today's news looks like the narrative is changing. airports will be shut until 80% population vaccinated... and what do we do with the other 15% ??

not looking good

 

[rederob]

this is the 2011 Phizer CEO (or similar ) speaking.


from today's news looks like the narrative is changing. airports will be shut until 80% population vaccinated... and what do we do with the other 15% ??

not looking good

Why are you repeating a link which is bollocks?
And I have no idea what your point is about airports because it makes no sense.

Some basic facts:

• vaccinations don't stop people getting infected by covid
• vaccinated people who get symptoms are, on average, likely to be less infectious (less viral load)
• vaccinated people are very unlikely to require hospitalisation
• Vaccinated travellers are extremely unlikely to impact on medical care facilities

A system of vaccine passports combined with rapid antigen testing immediately prior to boarding (and then PCR testing if RAT test was positive), combined with wearing masks would probably make travelling safer than being in a hotel quarantine facility for 14 days.