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As there will not be an investigation, your ideas are without merit.
As there will not be an investigation, your ideas are without merit.The full investigation will obviously depend on how much cooperation it gets from the Chinese, which will be minimal, to save their @sses.
China lied, people died.
Why not read the actual resolution, and quote what is says.
I have consistently said that what journalists are writing is not correct, and I know that what you have linked to has some glaring errors.
How about stumping up facts rather than poor journalism.
It will be difficult to get anywhere,everything will be sanitised, but at least it is happening.The full investigation will obviously depend on how much cooperation it gets from the Chinese, which will be minimal, to save their @sses.
China lied, people died.
Quoted in this article (superclusters or no transmission):Can't underestimate the capacity of COVID 19 to be spread in favourable circumstances.
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When he turned up to choir practice, he had no symptoms. Just 2.5 hours later, 52 of the 61 singing group members were infected with coronavirus.
I have been seeing from a few sources that many countries are not reporting the true death rate from coronavirus. For instance officially in the USA the death rates are 10000 per day above normal but officially coronavirus is only causing 1500 of them.
It's not just government fudging.
A work colleague from Queensland told me his Dads friends, a couple, caught it and went to hospital, recovered went home and then two weeks later the male was found dead with stroke in his pool.
He was in his 60s.
"playing with fire"
I also feel the same way about the fools that send signals into space, what happens if the aliens aren't friendly ?
You've had a bit of time to think about that one now macca....We all go out for a 'long long lunch' on occasion.. not the best time to rattle the keys and hit the 'submit button'
And on Dutch's post at #1789 linking timesofsweden. Not an organ of any repute as far as I've yet determined.
Careful about what's 'out there' boys... (insert X-Files emoji)
Either Australia, NZ and others have been waaaaaaaaaay over cautious or the USA covid story is far far from over.
Tourists maybe not immigrants as we have a punitive tax rate.they would be crazy to become resident for tax purposeI'm wondering about the longer term economic effects of this.
Anyone who has enough money such that work is optional tends to place considerable value on their personal health and safety. Not all but typically that is the case.
If someone's already "made it" in business or in areas such as sports or entertainment (or anything else which makes people rather wealthy) then rationally they'd be wondering what on earth they're doing continuing to live in the US given that there are other countries which seem far safer.
I'm wondering if we'll see a rise in wealthy immigrants to Australia and NZ?
I'm wondering about the longer term economic effects of this.
Anyone who has enough money such that work is optional tends to place considerable value on their personal health and safety. Not all but typically that is the case.
If someone's already "made it" in business or in areas such as sports or entertainment (or anything else which makes people rather wealthy) then rationally they'd be wondering what on earth they're doing continuing to live in the US given that there are other countries which seem far safer.
I'm wondering if we'll see a rise in wealthy immigrants to Australia and NZ?
There's no info it leaked because China won't let an investigation happen.The "Dossier". A world wide Murdoch push to shift the conversation on COVIOD 19.
The reality ?
Coronavirus 'dossier' was a basic timeline of facts handed out by US State Department with no new evidence
......In the middle of the US push, on May 2, the Saturday Telegraph published its assertions about the links between the lab and the pandemic, sourced to the so-called "western governments dossier".
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Despite all of the above, no evidence has been provided to date to back up assertions the virus leaked from the lab.
"It's likely that all governments during this phase have been trying to persuade media organisations of their world view, their policy positions, their perspective," said Professor Medcalf.
"I think the greater concern is that [the non-paper is] essentially a speculative document somehow dressed up to be a highly authoritative piece of intelligence, which from all appearances it doesn't seem to be."
"I think what has happened here is that a document of no intrinsic significance whatsoever has been inflated into an importance which it simply doesn't have," said head of The Australia Institute's International and Security Affairs program, Allan Behm.
The US Embassy declined to comment for this story as did the Telegraph journalist who wrote the articles, Sharri Markson.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05...sier-came-out-of-us-state-department/12282994
The coronavirus that has become a world-wide pandemic may have been created in “cell-culture experiment” in a laboratory, according to prominent scientists who have conducted ground-breaking research into the origins of the virus. Flinders University Professor Nikolai Petrovsky’s has completed a scientific study, currently undergoing peer review, in conjunction with LaTrobe University in Victoria, which found COVID-19 was uniquely adapted for transmission to humans, far more than any other animal, including bats. Professor Petrovsky, from the College of Medicine and Public Health at Flinders University who has spent the past 20 years developing vaccines against pandemic influenza, Ebola and animal SARS, said this highly unusual finding left open the possibility that the virus leaked from a laboratory. “The two possibilities which I think are both still open is that it was a chance transmission of a virus from an as yet unidentified animal to human. The other possibility is that it was an accidental release of the virus from a laboratory,” he said. “Certainly we can’t exclude the possibility that this came from a laboratory experiment rather than from an animal. They are both open possibilities.” Professor Petrovsky, who is the Chairman and Research Director of Vaxine Pty Ltd, said COVID-19 has genetic elements similar to bat coronaviruses as well as other coronaviruses. The way coronavirus enters human cells is by binding to a protein on the surface of lung-cells called ACE2. The study showed the virus bound more tightly to human-ACE2 than to any of the other animals they tested. “It was like it was designed to infect humans,” he said. “One of the possibilities is that an animal host was infected by two coronaviruses at the same time and COVID-19 is the progeny of that interaction between the two viruses. “The same process can happen in a petri-dish. If you have cells in culture and you have human cells in that culture which the viruses are infecting, then if there are two viruses in that dish, they can swap genetic information and you can accidentally or deliberately create a whole third new virus out of that system. “In other words COVID-19 could have been created from that recombination event in an animal host or it could have occurred in a cell-culture experiment.” Professor Petrovsky was originally modelling the virus in January to prepare a vaccine candidate. He then turned his attention to “explore what animal species might have been involved in the transmission to humans” to understand the origins of the virus - and had a “surprising” result when none were well-adapted. “We found that the COVID-19 virus was particularly well-adapted to bind to human cells and that was far superior to its ability to bind to the cells of any other animal species which is quite unusual because typically when a virus is well-adapted to an animal and then it by chance crosses to a human, typically, you would expect it to have lower-binding to human cells than to the original host animal. We found the opposite so that was a big surprise,” he said. Scientists worldwide have, to date, overwhelmingly said the virus was more likely originated in a wet-market and was not created in a laboratory. Even the United States Office of National Intelligence ruled out COVID-19 being created in a laboratory. Asked why scientists have had this view, Professor Petrovsky said scientists “try not to be political” and do not want their research impacted adversely by tighter laboratory controls. “We just try to base our findings on facts rather than taking particular political positions but sometimes obviously the alternatives may have unintended consequences,” he said. “For instance, if it was to turn out that this virus may have come about because of an accidental lab release that would have implications for how we do viral research in laboratories all around the world which could make doing research much harder. “So I think the inclination of virus researchers would be to presume that it came from an animal until proven otherwise because that would have less ramifications for how we are able to do research in the future. The alternative obviously has quite major implications for science and science on viruses, not just obviously political ramifications which we’re all well aware of.” Professor Petrovsky said an inquiry needs to start straight away, not when the pandemic is finished. “The idea of putting it off to the pandemic is over, it would be a mistake,” he said. “I’m certainly very much in favour of a scientific investigation. It’s only objective should be to get to the bottom of how did this pandemic happen and how do we prevent a future pandemic…. not to have a witch-hunt.” Image: AP
China is allowing science to guide where the source may reside, so your comments continue to reflect the level of ignorance surrounding what occurred.There's no info it leaked because China won't let an investigation happen.
Meanwhile our own Professor Nikolai Petrovsky
is still open to the possibility of it being a lab leak. Along with a lot of other high profile experts. We simply don't know because no data came out of China except dodgy numbers.
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