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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%
  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%
  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%

  • Total voters
    75
Whether the wet markets were involved and are they a danger to world health.

If they are then China needs to get rid of them and provide decent food for it's people. (Like Aussie beef and grain).
The wet markets in Wuhan are still closed.
Most virologists have discounted the wet markets as a source.
 
The dots are moving closer and closer together.

Great video WayneL. Simple and clear, this is not all natural.

So if China has nothing to hide, then why are they refusing an international investigation?

More so, why are they becoming so agitated and lashes out at our pollies, even threatening trade with Australia?
 
Relax people, Saint Greta is now on the Covid case. I was wondering how long it would take her/them.:D

Greta Thunberg launches campaign to fight coronavirus
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/29/greta-thunberg-launches-campaign-fight-coronavirus/ By: Associated Press - Wednesday, April 29, 2020

"UNITED NATIONS - Climate activist Greta Thunberg is launching a campaign with a Danish foundation to help finance the U.N. childrens’ agency’s emergency program to fight the coronavirus pandemic. Thunberg said in a statement that “like the climate crisis, the coronavirus pandemic is a child-rights crisis” that will affect youngsters now and in the long-term..."
 
Relax people, Saint Greta is now on the Covid case. I was wondering how long it would take her/them.:D

Greta Thunberg launches campaign to fight coronavirus
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/29/greta-thunberg-launches-campaign-fight-coronavirus/ By: Associated Press - Wednesday, April 29, 2020

"UNITED NATIONS - Climate activist Greta Thunberg is launching a campaign with a Danish foundation to help finance the U.N. childrens’ agency’s emergency program to fight the coronavirus pandemic. Thunberg said in a statement that “like the climate crisis, the coronavirus pandemic is a child-rights crisis” that will affect youngsters now and in the long-term..."

Praise the Lord!
 
Relax people, Saint Greta is now on the Covid case. I was wondering how long it would take her/them."UNITED NATIONS - Climate activist Greta Thunberg is launching a campaign with a Danish foundation to help finance the U.N. childrens’ agency’s emergency program to fight the coronavirus pandemic. Thunberg said in a statement that “like the climate crisis, the coronavirus pandemic is a child-rights crisis” that will affect youngsters now and in the long-term..."
she is a child, after all
 
It's becoming clear that the real death rate caused by the COVID virus is far higher that the current official figures. This analysis explains how the difference is estimated.

Coronavirus deaths could be much higher than official toll due to number of 'excess deaths'

England and Wales have hit a grim milestone, providing more evidence that the true devastation from the coronavirus pandemic is far higher than the official statistics suggest.


The countries have now recorded the most deaths in a single week for at least 27 years, when official weekly statistics began.
There were 22,351 deaths in the week ending April 17.
If this were a normal year, you would expect only around 10,000 people to have died in that week.
The number of 'excess deaths' above what you'd expect to see in a typical year is growing fast in England and Wales, and it's a better way of measuring the true impact of the pandemic.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04...s-likely-higher-due-to-excess-deaths/12200850
 
satanoperca,

If you noticed on the site, we also have the Magna Carta.
https://www.aph.gov.au/Visit_Parliament/Whats_On/Exhibition/Magna_Carta

What is the Magna Carta?

The Magna Carta lies at the heart of Australian parliamentary democracy. Parliament House has a 1297 edition of the Magna Carta—one of only four in existence, and the only one in the Southern Hemisphere.

The Magna Carta (Latin for the ‘Great Charter’) is famous around the world as the foundation stone of constitutional and parliamentary government.

It confirmed the rule of law—the principle that nobody, not even the monarch, is above the law—and, among other freedoms, laid the basis for establishing trial by jury, outlawing arbitrary detention, and ensuring that there should be no taxation without representation.
 
Another graph on the COVID virus but with a difference.


Daily confirmed cases Covid.jpg
 
satanoperca,

If you noticed on the site, we also have the Magna Carta.
https://www.aph.gov.au/Visit_Parliament/Whats_On/Exhibition/Magna_Carta

What is the Magna Carta?

The Magna Carta lies at the heart of Australian parliamentary democracy. Parliament House has a 1297 edition of the Magna Carta—one of only four in existence, and the only one in the Southern Hemisphere.

The Magna Carta (Latin for the ‘Great Charter’) is famous around the world as the foundation stone of constitutional and parliamentary government.

It confirmed the rule of law—the principle that nobody, not even the monarch, is above the law—and, among other freedoms, laid the basis for establishing trial by jury, outlawing arbitrary detention, and ensuring that there should be no taxation without representation.

Parliament what Parliament.....Scummos running solo
And loving it
 
Making clever propaganda and demonstrating how Trump talks rubbish.

Chinese state media releases animated propaganda video mocking US coronavirus response
A Chinese state media outlet has released an animated video using Lego pieces to mock the United States' coronavirus response and the Trump Administration's claims of an initial Chinese COVID-19 coverup.


Key points:



    • Personified Lego characters representing the US and China satirised the Trump Administration
    • The videos appear to be part of China's retort to claims over its coronavirus mismanagement
    • Donald Trump has continued to repeat an unverified claim about the virus's origin
Entitled Once Upon a Virus, the short animation — released by China's official Xinhua news agency — takes the form of a back-and-forth between China and the US with China being represented by a Lego terracotta warrior and a team of hazmat wearing characters, and the US by the Statue of Liberty.

The dialogue begins with the Chinese warrior who stated they had discovered a dangerous new virus, to which the Statue of Liberty replied:

"It's only a flu ... Don't wear a mask", adding that China's "stay at home" measures were a violation of human rights.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05...propaganda-video-mock-us-coronavirus/12204836

 
Observations from CDC in US about the response to the Corona Virus

The U.S. government was slow to understand how much coronavirus was spreading from Europe, which helped drive the acceleration of outbreaks across the nation, a top health official has said.

Limited testing and delayed travel alerts for areas outside China contributed to the jump in U.S. cases starting in late February, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the No. 2 official at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“We clearly didn’t recognise the full importations that were happening,” Schuchat told The Associated Press.

In an article published by the CDC looking back on the US response, Schuchat suggested the nation’s top public health agency missed opportunities to slow the spread.

The CDC is responsible for the recognition, tracking and prevention of just such a disease. But the agency has had a low profile during this pandemic, with White House officials controlling communications and leading most press briefings.

“This report seems to challenge the idea that the China travel ban in late January was instrumental in changing the trajectory of this pandemic in the United States,” said Jason Schwartz, assistant professor of health policy at the Yale School of Public Health.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly celebrated a federal decision, announced on 31 January, to stop entry into the US of any foreign nationals who had traveled to China in the previous 14 days. That took effect on 2 February.

China had imposed its own travel restrictions earlier, and travel out of its outbreak areas did indeed drop dramatically.

But in her article, Schuchat noted that nearly 2 million travellers arrived in the US from Italy and other European countries during February. The US government didn’t block travel from there until 11 March.

“The extensive travel from Europe, once Europe was having outbreaks, really accelerated our importations and the rapid spread,” she told the AP. “I think the timing of our travel alerts should have been earlier.”

She also noted in the article that more than 100 people who had been on nine separate Nile River cruises during February and early March had come to the U.S. and tested positive for the virus, nearly doubling the number of known U.S. cases at that time.

Schuchat also noted the explosive effect of some late February mass gatherings, including a scientific meeting in Boston, the Mardis Gras celebration in New Orleans and a funeral in Albany, Georgia. The gatherings spawned many cases, and led to decisions in mid-March to restrict crowds.

“I think in retrospect, taking action earlier could have delayed further amplification (of the US outbreak), or delayed the speed of it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...-fauci-blocked-from-testifying-on-us-response
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...f60286-8bfe-11ea-80df-d24b35a568ae_story.html
 
As I have posted previously, China shipped 50 tons of Vitamin C to Wuhan not long after the virus escaped.

Story at-a-glance
  • Vitamins C and D are finally being adopted in the conventional treatment of novel coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. This fortunate turn of events is likely to save thousands of lives, while keeping health care costs down
  • Seriously ill coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C three to four times a day, in conjunction with other conventional treatments
  • Vitamin C at extremely high doses acts as an antiviral drug, actually killing viruses

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...d=20200407Z2&et_cid=DM501437&et_rid=845504949

Seems this may get a public run after all, it has been known but shut down for years.

Interesting comment that people with good Vit D do 50% better against all upper respiratory infections, this was proven in the USA to include the flu but the CDC won't have it.

They would rather give everyone a flu jab with an average success rate of between 10% and 30% than suggest they take a Vit D supplement from autumn to spring and get a 50% success rate.............. I wonder why ?

Experts claim those with low vitamin D levels

A new study has found having low levels of a particular vitamin could make people more likely to die from coronavirus. The kicker is: lockdown isn’t helping.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...s/news-story/8207fd86200fd4902b25d47990464f6a
 
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