Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

[bellenuit]

I don't give credence to poorly informed China bashing.

So when asked, you couldn't put up. You've got no substance, just a hollow man, who throws insults about. No point discussing this any further with you.

 

[spooly74]

Anyone for some good news?

Abstract We need an effective treatment to cure COVID-19 patients and to decrease the virus carriage duration. In 80 in-patients receiving a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin we noted a clinical improvement in all but one 86 year-old patient who died, and one 74 year-old patient still in intensive care unit. A rapid fall of nasopharyngeal viral load tested by qPCR was noted, with 83% negative at Day7, and 93% at Day8. Virus cultures from patient respiratory samples were negative in 97.5% patients at Day5. This allowed patients to rapidly de discharge from highly contagious wards with a mean length of stay of five days. We believe other teams should urgently evaluate this cost-effective therapeutic strategy, to both avoid the spread of the disease and treat patients as soon as possible before severe respiratory irreversible complications take hold.

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

and this....

India approves the use hydroxychloroquine & France has reversed its ban.
https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/Adviso...loroquinasprophylaxisforSARSCoV2infection.pdf

and more good news...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SesxgaPnpT6OfCYuaFSwXzDK4cDKMbivoALprcVFj48/mobilebasic

Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

 

[Logique]

Anyone for some good news?
https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf
and this....
India approves the use hydroxychloroquine & France has reversed its ban.
https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/Adviso...loroquinasprophylaxisforSARSCoV2infection.pdf
and more good news...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SesxgaPnpT6OfCYuaFSwXzDK4cDKMbivoALprcVFj48/mobilebasic

That's very impressive at 97.5% effectiveness Spooly, with a large number of co-authors of that paper from Marseille - so there is real promise in this treatment:
"..In 80 in-patients receiving a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin...
.... Virus cultures from patient respiratory samples were negative in 97.5% patients at Day5..."

 

[rederob]

So when asked, you couldn't put up. You've got no substance, just a hollow man, who throws insults about. No point discussing this any further with you.

I posted the WHO travel advisory, so you really need to be more credible as it clearly gives the lie to your many points.
I also suggested you read what the WHO actually wrote by linking to their site, but you have preferred to quote from the gutter.
When I pointed out one of your sources claimed that the WHO was contacted before they even were aware of the virus, you looked away.
I previously showed that NIOS who you quoted from was completely discredited as a source.
Despite these instances you insist your points have merit.
As I said, you are just a conspiracy theorist here peddling nonsense.

 

[IFocus]

IMO the restrictions on society will be having a dramatic effect on the supply of illicit drugs,

My wife mention this when all the borders both overseas and interstate were closed which made me blink, what's the out come from that.

How ever freight is still moving so maybe supply is still available?

 

[IFocus]

SP talking to a local nurse apparently a couple of cases have been through our hospital.

 

[sptrawler]

My wife mention this when all the borders both overseas and interstate were closed which made me blink, what's the out come from that.

How ever freight is still moving so maybe supply is still available?

It is still going to be severely restricted, over the weekend in Mandurah CBD overnight, there was a lot of screaming and ranting going on from the foreshore area.
There is no pubs open and only the unfortunate ones hanging around.

 

[spooly74]

That's very impressive at 97.5% effectiveness Spooly, with a large number of co-authors of that paper from Marseille - so there is real promise in this treatment:
"..In 80 in-patients receiving a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin...
.... Virus cultures from patient respiratory samples were negative in 97.5% patients at Day5..."

Looks really promising, Loqique
Here's more news from the Dr. who treated nearly 700 patients in New York from the 18th March, I think, in addition to the 350 noted above.


Perhaps this is the same results, but extremely positive.

 

[sptrawler]

A good article which again we have canvassed on ASF, the two options are get herd immunisation, or stop the outbreak in its tracks and hope a vaccine is found before it breaks out again. NZ has gone for number two option, but they are fortunate with the size and population fit, they will have to police their borders after the lockdown 100%. IMO

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/kiwis-will-face-new-normal-when-lockdown-ends-researcher

 

[spooly74]

A good article which again we have canvassed on ASF, the two options are get herd immunisation, or stop the outbreak in its tracks and hope a vaccine is found before it breaks out again. NZ has gone for number two option, but they are fortunate with the size and population fit, they will have to police their borders after the lockdown 100%. IMO

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/kiwis-will-face-new-normal-when-lockdown-ends-researcher

I think I'd prefer the former once we have a notable treatment to drop the death rate to almost nil.
Although vaccine trials have actually already started in humans it's still going to be a year away imo.

If we can get the death rate under control and I hope (think) we'll start seeing this soon. Let the herd get it & keep the vulnerable isolated.

 

[spooly74]

FDA issues emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug for coronavirus care

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs championed by President Donald Trump for coronavirus treatment despite scant evidence.

The agency allowed for the drugs to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible,” HHS said in a statement, announcing that Sandoz donated 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses of chloroquine.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

 

[sptrawler]

So when asked, you couldn't put up. You've got no substance, just a hollow man, who throws insults about. No point discussing this any further with you.

If you are refering to rederob, everyone seems to reach that conclusion.

 

[bellenuit]

We seen this from other sources, but this is the take from The Guardian.

Senior WHO adviser appears to dodge question on Taiwan's Covid-19 response

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-dodge-question-on-taiwans-covid-19-response

 

[moXJO]

When I pointed out one of your sources claimed that the WHO was contacted before they even were aware of the virus, you looked away.
I previously showed that NIOS who you quoted from was completely discredited as a source.
Despite these instances you insist your points have merit.
As I said, you are just a conspiracy theorist here peddling nonsense.

Robbie must have blocked me. He must of been sick of being wrong

 

[bellenuit]

Robbie must have blocked me. He must of been sick of being wrong

I'll repost your response so that those who wish to be informed can be informed.

Speaking to reporters in Taipei, the island's Centres for Disease Control chief Chou Jih-haw said that it written to the WHO and China as early as Dec. 31, asking for information about the newly uncovered virus outbreak in China's Wuhan city, including whether there was human-to-human transmission.

"We asked them whether there's a possibility of human-to-human transmission. We indeed asked them and reminded them of the matter," Chou said. He said the WHO confirmed it had received the letter but did not respond to it.

Health Minister Chen Shih-chung, sitting next to Chou, said Taiwan had fortunately decided that same day to begin screening passengers flying in from Wuhan, and activated its emergency operations center on Jan. 2 - a move experts say allowed Taiwan to effectively control the early spread of the virus.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-questions-at-start-of-outbreak-idUSKBN21B160

 

[IFocus]

FDA issues emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug for coronavirus care

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

Hopefully a game changer another would be to be able to test everyone and then isolation infected cases, do this every few days for several weeks then you could get those not infected back to work etc and keep those vulnerable isolated.

 

[Logique]

Looks really promising, Loqique
Here's more news from the Dr. who treated nearly 700 patients in New York from the 18th March, I think, in addition to the 350 noted above...[Youtube]..Perhaps this is the same results, but extremely positive.

Good stuff. It's worth repeating his successful three drug treatment for the record:

"...My [Dr Zelenko] out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SesxgaPnpT6OfCYuaFSwXzDK4cDKMbivoALprcVFj48/mobilebasic

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days

2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days

3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

...rationale...Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

March 23, 2020
Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
Board Certified Family Practitioner
501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950..."

 

[Knobby22]

A GP in USA. Don't believe it.

 

[qldfrog]

So when asked, you couldn't put up. You've got no substance, just a hollow man, who throws insults about. No point discussing this any further with you.

Took you a long time to reach that point Bellenuit, I can not repeat how useful the ignore button is for individuals like that

 

[qldfrog]

A GP in USA. Don't believe it.

@Knobby22 this is similar treatment and results (very good) done by the Marseille scientist I mentionned a while back;
I think we are onto something for a treatment
I try to find an English article https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...h-world/chloroquine-coronavirus/#.XoGzanJS-Uk
The french scientist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoult
Coronavirus and new infections are his domain, no one can contest is curriculum.
As explained a while back, sadly, he is in a war against a Parisian elite clan who happen to be headed by the husband of the (past I think now) french Health minister