Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

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Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response​

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European Union regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible.​

Repeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune response and tire out people, according to the European Medicines Agency. Instead, countries should leave more time between booster programs and tie them to the onset of the cold season in each hemisphere, following the blueprint set out by influenza vaccination strategies, the agency said. ​

The advice comes as some countries consider the possibility of offering people second booster shots in a bid to provide further protection against surging omicron infections. Earlier this month Israel became the first nation to start administering a second booster, or fourth shot, to those over 60. The U.K. has said that boosters are providing good levels of protection and there is no need for a second booster shot at the moment, but will review data as it evolves. ​

Boosters “can be done once, or maybe twice, but it’s not something that we can think should be repeated constantly,” Marco Cavaleri, the EMA head of biological health threats and vaccines strategy, said at a press briefing on Tuesday. “We need to think about how we can transition from the current pandemic setting to a more endemic setting.”​

The EU regulator also said at the briefing that oral and intravenous antivirals, such as Paxlovid and Remdesivir, maintain their efficacy against omicron. The agency said that April is the soonest it could approve a new vaccine targeting a specific variant, as the process takes about three to four months. Some of the world’s largest vaccine-makers have said they are looking at producing vaccines that could target new variants. ​

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...shots-risk-overloading-immune-system-ema-says


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[The Triangle]

Man’s penis shrinks after Covid diagnosis

A man claims his penis has shrunk by almost 4cm due to Covid, and doctors say it can’t be fixed.

www.news.com.au

How much did Pfizer pay news.com to publish this?

What a joke. I see censorship only works one way for covid lies.

Yesterday there was another BS story about vaxx curing skin conditions.

 

[moXJO]

Man’s penis shrinks after Covid diagnosis

A man claims his penis has shrunk by almost 4cm due to Covid, and doctors say it can’t be fixed.

www.news.com.au

How much did Pfizer pay news.com to publish this?

What a joke. I see censorship only works one way for covid lies.

Yesterday there was another BS story about vaxx curing skin conditions.

Yeah I saw that "wart removal" story.

 

[barney]

Roger Marshall is incompetent and a moron..
Fauci continues to deal with people who simply do not know what they are talking about.

I actually agree that Senator Marshall could have grilled Fauci way better.

Fauci did "deal" with the questions very well, no doubt ..... By evading the actual question as usual

Fauci is a pathological liar. Anyone who cant see that based on the known information is wearing blinkers.




DARPA rejected the ECO-Health request for grant money because they considered the "gain of function" research too risky etc

ECO-H had and did get their funding cash via the NIH (Fauci) to continue the same gain of function research in the Wuhan lab

The same g-o-f research which had already been carried out at Chapel Hill etc in the US but got shut down

The money trail and the paper trail continue to grow.

The only thing we don't know yet is the full extent of the lies and corruption. I suspect it will eventually come out.

 

[Humid]

 

[wayneL]

At least the coppers are "keeping us safe" by arresting real villains. This person was obviously a danger to society' and truly warranted diverting police resources away from, domestic violence, street gangs, and organised crime.

 

[mullokintyre]

In the debate about RATs it makes interesting reading to look at some of the 'debate" before the RATS became an essential item.
Ellume is an Australian company that has been producing RATS for some time.
From an article that was produced by The Australian back inOctober 8th 2020

A Brisbane medical technology company says it has found the key to returning the world back to some kind of normality and has received $US30m ($42.1m) from the US government to roll it off production lines.
Ellume has developed three COVID-19 tests that can be completed in less than 15 minutes and be deployed at airports, stadiums and offices, in an effort to end mass lockdowns and contain the virus. Chief executive and founder Sean Parsons said the tests should be available for use in the US within weeks.

But Australians will have to wait much longer. “We have been having discussions with the Queensland state government, which have largely fallen on deaf ears,” Dr Parsons said. “The Australian government also knows we are here and what we are doing, but again there hasn’t been anywhere near the same kind of engagement as the US.
“Nevertheless, we have unique technology that has been hard fought over a decade and it is a little bit disappointing the Australian government hasn’t been interested and understood the value that could bring to COVID.”

Ellume received the US funding to accelerate the clinical testing and manufacturing scale-up of its COVID-19 antigen tests. It has developed three tests: at-home; point-of-care for medical professionals; and another for high-throughput settings, which can complete eight tests at once and is ideal for use at airports, stadiums, offices and other places with crowds.

So neither the Feds nor QLD state govt were interested, and the funding came from the US.
There was a bit of a snag however, when 2 million kits were recalled because of false positives.
From SARA

The FDA’s recall is a Class I, meaning it is “the most serious” of the types of recalls. The FDA warned that “Use of these tests may cause serious adverse health consequences or death.”

“The Ellume COVID-19 Home Test is an antigen test that detects proteins from the SARS-CoV-2 virus from a nasal sample in people two years of age or older. The Ellume COVID-19 Home Test is available without a prescription for use by people with or without COVID-19 symptoms,” the FDA explained, adding, “The FDA issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) on December 15, 2020 and authorized a revision to the EUA on February 11, 2021 to allow emergency use of the Ellume COVID-19 Home Test.”

The TGA in its enormous wisdom did not approve of ANY of the RAT testing until November 1st, and only put out a list of approved tests Yesterday (see TGA Approved tests ). There are 22 different tests approved, 16 of which come from China, 2 from the USA, one each from Korea, Singapore, Germany, and Australia. Was a bit surprised that the one Australian manufacturer was not Immune, but a company in Mulgrave Victoria, Innovation Scientific. So it seems that the connection to the liberal party was too much of a hurdle.
Perhaps they were scared off because of this article.

Health Minister Greg Hunt has denied accusations he interfered in a regulator's decision on whether to review a self-testing flu kit made by a Liberal donor's company.

Emails obtained under freedom of information show Mr Hunt's office was "very keen" for the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) to review the use of self-diagnosing devices, including for the flu.
It followed an enquiry about Ellume, and its flu-test device, to Mr Hunt's office. Ellume's chair is multi-millionaire entrepreneur Paul Darrouzet, who donated $100,000 to the federal Liberal party in 2017 and has also donated to the Queensland Liberal National Party.
In May last year, John Skerritt, the deputy secretary at the TGA, emailed colleagues: "Had another call from the MO (minister's office) - they are very keen for this issue to be reviewed."

In an email, the minister's office said: "The minister will likely seek review later this year."
It is not suggested Mr Darrouzet had any involvement in the minister's office's emails.
Ellume has been trying to get its do-it-yourself flu test approved for use in Australia, but existing regulations prevent it. In an email dated May 30, 2019, Professor Skerritt said:
"The basis for this prohibition, which has been in place since 2010, was that it is considered that such testing is best conducted in conjunction with a healthcare professional."
Another senior department official, Miranda Lauman, advised the need for caution.
"We don't want to over-commit and also need to be consistent with the advice given to GlaxoSmithKline."
That advice was given seven months earlier in a meeting with the global pharmaceutical giant when the TGA was told it was working with Ellume on the self-diagnosing device.
Labor health spokesman Chris Bowen labelled it a "rolled-gold scandal".

"It stinks to high heaven from beginning to end. This is in black and white, it's there for all to see. This is the minister's office and the minister interfering in the Therapeutic Goods Administration," Mr Bowen said.

There is no doubt that the Feds have screwed up on this, but put all the blame on them is a bit rich, especially as every step of the way has been politicised.
Imagine the headlines if Hunt had decided to order 32 million kits before the ATAGI had approved them in the hope that they would pick the ones he ordered, and then got it wrong.
ATAGI, slower than Molasses, and nowhere near as useful.
Mick

 

[basilio]

Economic effect of COVID on business is now worse than during lockdown. Many businesses are just not viable with staff sick or isolating, customers staying home and supply chains in chaos.

I wonder when governments will revive business support payments ?

‘Code red’: Melbourne businesses say Omicron wave more damaging than lockdown

Staff shortages and drop in consumer confidence leave Australian businesses asking for urgent government support

www.theguardian.com

 

[macca]

Quality each-way punter by the sounds GG



I see that @wayneL 's video reference to the Pfizer boss a couple of pages back has been removed due to "copywrite"

Basically the Pfizer Skipper was saying that the vaccine is becoming pretty ineffective over a short time frame

Copy of the Tweet Wayne originally showed below (minus the video)

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I guess he had to toe the line with that revelation given a few recent studies including one printed in the a "Lancet" confirmed similar.

In a nutshell, the vax was very handy against the original Virus

Mildly helpful against Delta compared to being unvaccinated (may get you out of hospital a couple of days earlier than being un-vaxxed)

And any benefit over Omicron (debatable) will last maybe a month!

Not sure how many are keen to be "needled" every month for the indefinite future


Will try and re-find the study and post link later just in case it proves to be "misinformation"

A link to Mr Pfizer with his foot in his mouth

Pfizer CEO says two doses provide ‘limited protection, if any’

Pfizer’s chief executive has revealed that two doses of its current Covid-19 vaccine offer “very limited protection, if any” against the Omicron variant.

www.news.com.au

 

[The Triangle]

I wonder when governments will revive business support payments ?

Hopefully never! but probably soon as the elites will need another booster shot of wealth transfer from the poor.

Everyone is getting covid, everyone is spreading covid. It cannot be stopped (except in WA) unless everyone is locked down for a month with the government issuing shoot to kill orders for anyone seen in public. Government really should completely give up. Everyone is going to have covid by the end of January.

These politicians have zero plan to ever let us go back to normal. They want this dictator power forever.

 

[basilio]

One of the outcomes of COVID is long COVID. People who pick up the virus but never recover properly.

The ongoing effects for these people range from debilitating to disastrous. Long COVID seems to be affecting between 10-30% of initial sufferers.

My wife had long Covid and killed herself. We must help others who are suffering​

Nick Güthe


The medical community must find answers for those suffering from long Covid. They are running out of time and hope

Seen here with her husband Nick Güthe and the actor Jeff Goldblum, Heidi Ferrer was a screenwriter who worked on shows including Dawson’s Creek. Photograph: Dave Allocca/Starpix/Rex/Shutterstock
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My wife, Heidi, took her own life after a 13-month battle with long Covid that started as a mostly asymptomatic coronavirus infection. Long Covid took her from one of the healthiest, most vibrant people I’ve ever known to a person so debilitated that she could not bear another day on this planet.

I came home one day last May to find that she’d decided to end her pain. As our 13-year-old son waited outside for the paramedics, I tried desperately to revive her. I did a good enough job that by the time we got her to the hospital they could restart her heart, but she was brain dead on arrival. The emergency room doctor assumed that she died from depression. When I told him, “She wasn’t depressed, it was long Covid,” he looked at me with bewilderment and asked, “What’s long Covid?”

Late last night I got a desperate Twitter message from a man whose wife could be the next Heidi. She has long Covid and was threatening to end her life. She had already told their eight-year-old daughter her plan. I called him immediately. Heidi and his wife both suffered from unexplained neurological tremors and internal chest cavity vibrations so bad they lost the ability to sleep.

My wife had long Covid and killed herself. We must help others who are suffering | Nick Güthe

The medical community must find answers for those suffering from long Covid. They are running out of time and hope

www.theguardian.com

How many people get ‘long COVID’ – and who is most at risk?

‘Long COVID’ – in which people have symptoms lasting more than a few weeks – is turning out to be very common. People hospitalized for COVID-19 are at highest risk, but they aren’t alone.

theconversation.com

 

[basilio]

The pressure on ICU places caused by COVID is now overwhelming. What happens when push comes to shove ?

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid​

Ranjana Srivastava

I understand that for a chance at survival, the Covid patient needs a ventilator, but in a career filled with ethical dilemmas, this one really tugs at me

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid | Ranjana Srivastava

I understand that for a chance at survival, the Covid patient needs a ventilator, but in a career filled with ethical dilemmas, this one really tugs at me

www.theguardian.com

 

[wayneL]

At least the coppers are "keeping us safe" by arresting real villains. This person was obviously a danger to society' and truly warranted diverting police resources away from, domestic violence, street gangs, and organised crime.

Welcome to the Union of Soviet Socialist 'Strayan States where having a cup of tea with friends us a crime.

This country is disgraceful.

Woman arrested at cafe over vax status

A Queensland woman is sporting bruises on her arm after being arrested outside a cafe where she was accused of refusing to provide police with her vaccination status.

www.news.com.au

 

[barney]

My wife, Heidi, took her own life after a 13-month battle with long Covid

That is 100% genuinely a terrible and sad event.

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid

This on the other hand,

is just plain gutter media at its worst. (Not directed at you at all @basilio just to confirm)

(I'm sorry for this patient and any other sick patient of course)



When the media goes down this "beat up the un-vaxxed" at every turn with ever diminishing Scientific reasoning

They show just how far scum journalists will go to create a headline that keeps their pay cheque at the end of the week.

Now my bile is rising, lol. I can't believe people actually get conned by all this polarizing agenda.

Has this "vaccine" ( that doesn't actually work very well) taken away everyone's ability to think rationally, or for themselves?!


For the record, and in my small world .... A high percentage of my good friends at the local Bowls Club have come down with Covid

Poor b@stards indeed is how I feel. They are my mates!

All fully vaxxed and/or boosted till the cows come home (rural area) with their Government approved/suggested "safety net"

When some (hopefully not all for God's sake) end up at the local Hospital and put some poor cancer patient out in the hall

Will the scum Journalists (I repeat my bolds for dramatic effect ) be any where to be found I ask?



And will they mention that 90% of the Covid cases in our local area are all fully vaxxed etc etc and taking up hospital space??


At the expense of real sick people? Of course they wont.

The unvaccinated started the pandemic and the unvaccinated have perpetuated the pandemic (Apparently)

And the unvaccinated (5-10% ) are causing all the "safe and effectively" vaccinated to get sick (Apparently)


Time to wake up to the true reality methinks.

Rant over (for now) My BILE is starting to bubble as well.

 

[greggles]

Welcome to the Union of Soviet Socialist 'Strayan States where having a cup of tea with friends us a crime.

This country is disgraceful.

Woman arrested at cafe over vax status

A Queensland woman is sporting bruises on her arm after being arrested outside a cafe where she was accused of refusing to provide police with her vaccination status.

www.news.com.au

When are Australians going to say "no" to authoritarianism? We have less freedom today than those living in the Soviet Union had. Getting arrested while having a cup of tea because you didn't present the correct identity papers? If someone told us three years ago that this would be happening in Australia in 2022, what would we have said?

 

[rederob]

When the media goes down this "beat up the un-vaxxed" at every turn with ever diminishing Scientific reasoning

The scientific evidence is unequivocal: less chance of hospitalisation, severe illness and death.

Time to wake up to the true reality methinks.

There are hundreds of millions of data records confirming the disproportionate impact of the unvaxxed on hospitalisations etc.. Your reality differs from facts yet again.

 

[barney]

Your reality differs from facts yet again.

Not where I live it doesn't! The vaccines have stopped being effective Red .... time to admit it .... or not

No doubt everyone will be waiting for the Pfizer Bosses new promise of an updated vaccine designed to actually stop Omicron

Next March wasn't it?



Fair dinkum ... They can have an upgraded Vax in 2 months to a variant that is (super transmissible, yes) (very nasty, not particularly)

But while everybody was dropping like flies with the far more deadly Delta variant for "an extended period"....

Crickets were singing with regard to any word on an upgraded vaccine that would work against that?? (Questions anyone?)

Oh thats right ... The media was still telling us how effective the original "vaccine" was against Delta (as people died and cases rose!)


Is anybody actually paying attention to what we are being fed? Seriously.

 

[barney]

Its all fake news initiated by the un-vaxxed of course

To be honest, I don't care which news site it comes from, it seems to be "happening" (That is the second site that came up in my search)


My agenda is not to say I'm right. My agenda is to say, I suspect we have been "sold" a pack of lies.


More importantly:

People need to take precautions against getting sick (prophylaxis or early treatment protocols that actually help)

 

[rederob]

Its all fake news initiated by the un-vaxxed of course

To be honest, I don't care which news site it comes from, it seems to be "happening" (That is the second site that came up in my search)


My agenda is not to say I'm right. My agenda is to say, I suspect we have been "sold" a pack of lies.


More importantly:

People need to take precautions against getting sick (prophylaxis or early treatment protocols that actually help)



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This links to the latest UK data and totally contradicts your link, which only shows infectiousness rather than severity:

As the above shows a disproportionate number of unvaxxed become severely ill, get hospitalised and, ultimately, die.
On the other hand, those boosted are much less likely than those double vaxxed to get ill etc..
So yet again the real world is very different to your poorly based beliefs.

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[mullokintyre]

In the debate about RATs it makes interesting reading to look at some of the 'debate" before the RATS became an essential item.
Ellume is an Australian company that has been producing RATS for some time.
From an article that was produced by The Australian back inOctober 8th 2020

So neither the Feds nor QLD state govt were interested, and the funding came from the US.
There was a bit of a snag however, when 2 million kits were recalled because of false positives.
From SARA

The TGA in its enormous wisdom did not approve of ANY of the RAT testing until November 1st, and only put out a list of approved tests Yesterday (see TGA Approved tests ). There are 22 different tests approved, 16 of which come from China, 2 from the USA, one each from Korea, Singapore, Germany, and Australia. Was a bit surprised that the one Australian manufacturer was not Immune, but a company in Mulgrave Victoria, Innovation Scientific. So it seems that the connection to the liberal party was too much of a hurdle.
Perhaps they were scared off because of this article.


There is no doubt that the Feds have screwed up on this, but put all the blame on them is a bit rich, especially as every step of the way has been politicised.
Imagine the headlines if Hunt had decided to order 32 million kits before the ATAGI had approved them in the hope that they would pick the ones he ordered, and then got it wrong.
ATAGI, slower than Molasses, and nowhere near as useful.
Mick

It seems that someone from The ABC must read ASF. They are on the bandwagon sortof.
As Australians struggle to get hold of a COVID-19 rapid antigen test, several Australian companies have been waiting months for local approval of their RATs.

Currently, only one of the 22 home tests approved by Australia's Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) is made locally, with 16 sourced from China, two from the US and the others from Korea, Singapore and Germany.

However, with the global Omicron wave seeing surging demand for RATs around the world, there are concerns Australia's current supply shortage could be exacerbated if planned shipments are diverted elsewhere.

In particular, with the vast bulk of Australia's tests coming from China, a worsening Omicron outbreak there could further threaten supply if tests bound for export were requisitioned by the Chinese government.

Several Australian companies have developed COVID RATs locally, although at least two are waiting on TGA approval for tests that are already in use in Europe or North America.

AnteoTech lodged its application in September, as did Lumos Diagnostics; both have been asked to submit further information.

"We're working with the TGA on adding some additional clinical data to the application," Mr Lanyon said.

Mr Thomson said his company's Australian application coincided with much tougher evidence requirements than when AnteoTech's test was approved for use in Europe.

"Globally, regulatory authorities have tightened their requirements for approval of rapid antigen tests, because the Chinese tests, a lot of tests, have flooded the markets with poor-performing product," said Mr Thomson.

"At the point we put in our approval application, they [the TGA] had tightened them again ... so we had to top up our data for them along the process."

For its part, the TGA told ABC News that delays usually rest with the test manufacturers.

"Generally, if all required information is submitted, approval can occur between 3-5 days," it said in a statement via the federal Department of Health.

"For most applications received by the TGA, there is missing information that requires multiple requests being issued by the TGA.
"Many applicants fail to read the TGA requirements or do not have the evidence to demonstrate their test performs at the sensitivity rates that they claim, or that is required.

"This could be a serious issue if the test does not perform to detect COVID-19 or its variants.
In the case of the three Australian companies, the TGA said it was waiting on them.

"We can confirm that, at the request of two of the named companies, we have provided several months for them to submit the required evidence and is [sic] still waiting on this evidence from these companies," the statement noted.

"In relation to the third company — we do not have an application for their COVID test strip. Therefore the TGA cannot assess information it has not received."

The TGA said it was continuing to "prioritise and expedite the assessment of COVID-19 rapid antigen self-tests for home use as quickly as information is received from applicants."

AnteoTech said it was expecting to submit further fresh data to the regulator next week, but was not anticipating immediate approval in response.

"We haven't met anybody who's gone through in three to five days," responded the company's CEO Derek Thomson.

How is it that the overseas players , particularly the Chinese ones were able to get their RATS approved ahead of the OZ orgs?
Especially when you consider that the TAG tightened the stakes half way through.
Mick