Along with Trump's 2020 election win, fake moon landing and flat earth.Well you sort of need lawyers to bring actions such as these. I strongly doubt anything will come of it anytime soon, but I find it interesting that the Nuremberg 2.0 idea is gaining traction.
Omicron seems to be mild. They can punch vaccinating my 5yo kids up their ar$e till I see compelling data.
I don't want to get the damn thing at all. But if it turns out to be inevitable, I'll the the omicron pleaseAnd Covid-19 is age based too. Generally speaking, the older you get, worse the effects. Your better off catching covid-19 NOW, IMO.
I've had both jabs, please give me Omricon.
Your better off catching covid-19 NOW, IMO.
Russian roulette.... A bullet In one of about then thousand chambers... Unless unlucky to a have a congenital comorbidity... or are farking dumb enough to live on nicotine and Maccas?Informed opinion as expressed by experts is that you are better of getting COVID-19 if you have been vaccinated and are a breakthrough case. Your are less likely to be seriously injured and significantly less likely to die. Your immunity is also stronger than if you have natural immunity only.
Please educated yourselves and don't play Russian roulette with your health or your lives.
Russian roulette.... A bullet In one of about then thousand chambers... Unless unlucky to a have a congenital comorbidity... or are farking dumb enough to live on nicotine and Maccas?
You see, that is a subjective judgement... and one you feel you must augment via pejorative argumentation.After all this time and after all the statistics put out there, do you not even know that the gun you are given that could cause you to die or have serious injury from the vaccine has more chambers by several orders of magnitude than the gun you are given that could cause you to die or have serious injury from COVID-19.
It seems basic probability is beyond some of you guys.
You see, that is a subjective judgement... and one you feel you must augment via pejorative argumentation.
I am quite happy to take that small risk, considering my good health.
If I'm wrong, obviously I will have to wear that.
On the other hand, there is the risk from the vaccine. I judge that as a greater risk.
I know several people who have had the virus now, thought of which have recovered without any problems.
I now onow several people who have had very severe reactions from the jab... two of which have been in ICU.
Yes, anecdotal, and a small sample size. But it also mirrors all of my close associates across 3 continents.
Therefore, I see that the Russian roulette game is far more loaded against me by taking the vaccine rather than taking my risks as a pureblood.
The thing is Bella (and as such I assume you are female), the data, in toto, does not support your thesis. (Unless you are cherry picking)When the sample size is in the billions, it is no longer subjective.
And has been said before, no one gives a rats **** whether you want to take on that risk yourself, it is when there is a demand to be a full part of society while taking no protections that is the issue. That is a risk that the rest of us are not willing to allow you to take and why most governments will prevent you from taking. We care about others. You are still holding the delusion that the vaccines do not prevent infection and do not prevent transmission when the evidence is to the contrary.
I must admit reading that, comes over as very creepy and cult like.When the sample size is in the billions, it is no longer subjective.
And has been said before, no one gives a rats **** whether you want to take on that risk yourself, it is when there is a demand to be a full part of society while taking no protections that is the issue. That is a risk that the rest of us are not willing to allow you to take and why most governments will prevent you from taking. We care about others. You are still holding the delusion that the vaccines do not prevent infection and do not prevent transmission when the evidence is to the contrary.
The thing is Bella (and as such I assume you are female), the data, in toto, does not support your thesis.
Moreover, I'm not sure why you care. TBH, I don't care a jot. You life, your choice. My life, my choice.
I must admit reading that, comes over as very creepy and cult like.
A bit 1950's Alfred Hitchcock, when the loonie professor is enticing the victim into the government test laboratory. ?
"No one gives a rats **** whether you want to take on that risk yourself, it is when there is a demand to be a full part of society while taking no protections that is the issue."
" That is a risk that the rest of us are not willing to allow you to take and why most governments will prevent you from taking. We care about others. You are still holding the delusion that the vaccines do not prevent infection and do not prevent transmission when the evidence is to the contrary".
LMAO. This is he overarching message you keep tripping over yourself to arrive at..You don't care a jot.
It's 2.6% chance of picking it up if vaccinated. Thats according to an Israel study of hospital workers on the front line.It's not that this is something new. Society has imposed limits on others for the good of the majority for lots of things. Drink driving, smoking in cars with kids, having infectious diseases - oh yeah - there have been restrictions and demands made on those having infectious diseases for quiet a long time now. Have we all forgotten. It wasn't creepy and cult like before. It isn't any more creepy and cult like now just because social media has given voice to a lot of ignorant people who don't care a jot about others.
The problem that @wayneL has is that he just doesn't seem to believe global data over his anecdotal experience which is just a replication of the allegory of the cave.It's 2.6% chance of picking it up if vaccinated. Thats according to an Israel study of hospital workers on the front line.
So not exactly a barking point if that's the round about.
Yes, rates vary country to country and across age groups. However apart from quantifiable deaths the biggest problem of covid from the outset has been hospitalisations. Data shows that those vaccinated are less likely to get infected, and of this group fewer are likely to need hospitalisation, and of this cohort their symptoms are milder and fewer again end up in ICU. So at each step of the possible worst path of a covid sufferer the journey is less dangerous.I think (and don't quote me) that you are 9 times more likely to catch it and 11 times more likely to die if unvaccinated.
It's 2.6% chance of picking it up if vaccinated. Thats according to an Israel study of hospital workers on the front line.
So not exactly a barking point if that's the round about.
I think (and don't quote me) that you are 9 times more likely to catch it and 11 times more likely to die if unvaccinated.
On the subject of clogged up hospitals, I would love to know what is clogging up the W.A ones, as we don't have a covid issue, but still have clogged hospitals.If unvaccinated about 10% go to hospital of those that test positive the death rate is reasonable low but the unvaccinated clogging up the hospital systems delaying other life saving treatments and putting front line medical care workers (super heroes) lives at risk seems to be the bit that doesn't concern some.
On the subject of clogged up hospitals, I would love to know what is clogging up the W.A ones, as we don't have a covid issue, but still have clogged hospitals.
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