Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

[sptrawler]

Everyone has lockdown fatigue. It's more community numbness than anger. No one really is paying attention to the hospitals. Which is why I recommend getting the vax now. You cannot put this back in the bottle, so vax as many as they can to try and stem the tide.

I think hospitals will overfill and we get deaths. But it times out with the summer months. So realistically it's lucky in the timing. Some of the other states that tried locking down hard are only going to prolong the inevitable into next winter.

Everyone here is vaxxing to avoid restrictions. Young people especially. The only people that care about the virus are journos. And those sht mongers have so far got everything wrong.

I think the way it has panned out has saved the Governments ar$e, the hesitancy issue would have resulted in a huge amount of wasted vaccine as it would have expired, so now the rush to get vaccinated has started and the vaccine is arriving. Pure ar$e IMO. ?

 

[moXJO]

Add to that business is dying hard. NSW needs to reopen. Kids need to go back to school.

I'll say this as well. After the first few weeks I thought that the lax lockdown was a mistake. Now I'm glad they went with it. Melbourne's experience shows this ain't the same virus as before and that even "ring of steel" lockdowns are harder to control.

Added to that: many states will be slow tracking and premiers will be eating their words. The hard talk of "lockdowns" is over (who knows for how long though).

Nsw has been relatively lucky so far. We had a lot go our way in one sense. Deaths so far have been low. I suspect the vaccine passports will be short lived and just used as a scare tactic. But we won't know till we start stripping away some of these police state rules.

I just hope shops can restock before Christmas. It should be absolutely crazy on reopen.

 

[over9k]

Add to that business is dying hard. NSW needs to reopen. Kids need to go back to school.

I'll say this as well. After the first few weeks I thought that the lax lockdown was a mistake. Now I'm glad they went with it. Melbourne's experience shows this ain't the same virus as before and that even "ring of steel" lockdowns are harder to control.

Added to that: many states will be slow tracking and premiers will be eating their words. The hard talk of "lockdowns" is over (who knows for how long though).

Nsw has been relatively lucky so far. We had a lot go our way in one sense. Deaths so far have been low. I suspect the vaccine passports will be short lived and just used as a scare tactic. But we won't know till we start stripping away some of these police state rules.

I just hope shops can restock before Christmas. It should be absolutely crazy on reopen.

Which shops?

You mean food places etc?

 

[DB008]

The biggest issue has been supply. Plenty of supply coming online now. The whole vax thing doesn't bother me. Had all of my shots growing up, whats the difference now (without getting into politics and whatnot) ?

 

[moXJO]

Which shops?

You mean food places etc?

Jb hifi, harvey Norman, outdoor/camping stores, toy stores, hell even kmart is shut here.
Restaurants are busy doing take out. But eating out at restaurants will explode. Singles are getting ready to date. Barbers and hairdressers have been shut for about 7 weeks and I look like a mop.
Clothes shops, gyms of any kind. Cafes, zoos, entertainment.

It's a long list. Plenty to profit from for the entrepreneurs.

 

[over9k]

Jb hifi, harvey Norman, outdoor/camping stores, toy stores, hell even kmart is shut here.
Restaurants are busy doing take out. But eating out at restaurants will explode. Singles are getting ready to date. Barbers and hairdressers have been shut for about 7 weeks and I look like a mop.
Clothes shops, gyms of any kind. Cafes, zoos, entertainment.

It's a long list. Plenty to profit from for the entrepreneurs.

Entertainment & services I could understand, but jb hifi etc? All that stuff is just being ordered online surely?

 

[moXJO]

Entertainment & services I could understand, but jb hifi etc? All that stuff is just being ordered online surely?

Na physical stores have run out of items for local click and collection. Problem is the same item is out of stock in other stores. Certain headphones as well. I don't see them having the stock come Christmas.

 

[over9k]

I wonder how much of that is everyone knowing how slow the post is at the moment though?

I've bought a couple of things in person/off the shelf despite it costing more because I knew ordering it online would take forever.

 

[moXJO]

I wonder how much of that is everyone knowing how slow the post is at the moment though?

I've bought a couple of things in person/off the shelf despite it costing more because I knew ordering it online would take forever.

Or possibly stores cutting back on expenses?
Eg save on deliveries all the way down the chain. Running skeleton staff etc

 

[wayneL]

More of what the outside world thinks of the Australian tyrrany.

Australia Coronavirus Response Erodes Core Freedoms | National Review

www.nationalreview.com

 

[wayneL]

Surely by now, anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size realises that these people are just taking the p155

 

[mullokintyre]

Is there an equivalent to google translate for youtube???
Mick

 

[wayneL]

Is there an equivalent to google translate for youtube???
Mick

@qldfrog might be able to help?

 

[qldfrog]

Is there an equivalent to google translate for youtube???
Mick

not aware of any tool.
, for the clip shown above, it is all politician team behind R Muselier..(funny as his name comes from a museliere (muzzle )..irony) Southern france region PACA(Provence-cote d azur)
All rushing for masks before the TV shot while celebrating their victory at the region election last month.

he got into isolation 30/08 as he caught covid even with his two shots..https://www.lci.fr/politique/quatri...aud-muselier-positif-au-covid-19-2194979.html

yeap nothing surprising

 

[basilio]

The biggest issue has been supply. Plenty of supply coming online now. The whole vax thing doesn't bother me. Had all of my shots growing up, whats the difference now (without getting into politics and whatnot) ?

For the last 25 years there has been an ongoing anti-vax movement. Remember when people were saying that vaccines were making children autistic ? That research turned out to be faked with the researcher having been paid 435,000 pounds to come up with the story.

Nonetheless the core of people who insisted vaccines were still dangerous has continued to grow,

Do Vaccines Cause Autism?

There’s a lot of talk in the media about vaccines and autism. Are they linked? WebMD sorts fact from fiction.

www.webmd.com

Why Have Vaccines Been Ruled Out as a Cause of Autism?

A fraudulent study from 1998 opened the doors to unfounded fear of autism.

www.historyofvaccines.org

 

[wayneL]

For the last 25 years there has been an ongoing anti-vax movement. Remember when people were saying that vaccines were making children autistic ? That research turned out to be faked with the researcher having been paid 435,000 pounds to come up with the story.

Nonetheless the core of people who insisted vaccines were still dangerous has continued to grow,

Do Vaccines Cause Autism?

There’s a lot of talk in the media about vaccines and autism. Are they linked? WebMD sorts fact from fiction.

www.webmd.com

Why Have Vaccines Been Ruled Out as a Cause of Autism?

A fraudulent study from 1998 opened the doors to unfounded fear of autism.

www.historyofvaccines.org

Bas, while certainly some are in fact part of that antivax movement, In fact the majority of people not wishing or hesitant to get the CV vax are not anti vaxxers at all.

Like myself they have had an array of vaccinations previously... Mumps measles chickenpox polio tetanus etcetera... And very happy to have had all of those.

Therefore to call these people anti vaxxers is both childish and incorrect and actually quite a disgusting smear.... not untypical of today's toxic politics, particularly of the left.

 

[moXJO]

Bas, while certainly some are in fact part of that antivax movement, I fart the majority of people not wishing or hesitant to get the CV vax are not anti vaxxers at all.

Wayne your autocorrect is set on "dad joke" mode.

 

[wayneL]

Wayne your autocorrect is set on "dad joke" mode.

OMG, LMAO. How I hate autocorrect.... Edited

 

[bellenuit]

Is there an equivalent to google translate for youtube???
Mick

If the YouTube video has subtitles, then you can use a tool called "Language Extensions for Chrome". There is a version for YouTube and for Netflix. This may be overkill for your needs, but a great facility for languages. It only works on a desktop with Chrome browser and the Chrome browser is supported on MacOs as well as Windows. If you prefer other browsers, then you only need to use Chrome for the language learning stuff and your favourite browser for the rest. I use it to learn German and it is terrific.

Rather than describe what the extension does, here is a video on it. This shows the version for Netflix, but the version for YouTube is the same.

 

[basilio]

Bas, while certainly some are in fact part of that antivax movement, In fact the majority of people not wishing or hesitant to get the CV vax are not anti vaxxers at all.

Like myself they have had an array of vaccinations previously... Mumps measles chickenpox polio tetanus etcetera... And very happy to have had all of those.

Therefore to call these people anti vaxxers is both childish and incorrect and actually quite a disgusting smear.... not untypical of today's toxic politics, particularly of the left.

There is a bit of nuance here Wayne. My response to DB was with regard to how the anti-vaxxer movement was started and built a very big presence from 1994-5 onwards. There were a few consequences

1) A community developed that undermined public confidence in vaccination to the point that vaccination rates for children against mumps. measles ect fell substantially. So clearly the messaging and effectiveness of this core was there.

2) When COVID came and then the relatively rapid development of vaccines there was now an active, articulate community that was determined to undermine the COVID vaccines. I suggest this has been a major factor in poisoning the well.

So the messaging against the COVID vaccines didn't start from zero. What has also occurred has been a deepening rejection of "medical authorities" as legitimate information sources and an acceptance of a range of alternatives as just as good if not better. Those alternatives have ranged from believing in God, accepting MMS treatment (Miracle Mineral solutions bleach) as cures, promoting natural immunity - no need for vaccines, undermining the risks of COVID.

And on top of that there are conspiracy theories around George Soros, 5G, Q Anon, vaccines have secret trackers. A number of these have been highlighted on ASF.

In the end they come down to a diverse chorus of people undermining vaccines as a critical part of protecting our community against a dangerous disease.