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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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wayneL said:
Can neither confirm not deny... Comments?

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I was a bit sceptical of this (I mean its on Twitter), so I hunted around and found something..
According to Australian Doctors News its true in at least two states.
GPs could face fines up to $20,000 for improper use of coronavirus serology tests aer at least two states have prohibited their use for diagnostic purposes.
Minister for Health Greg Hunt announced last month that the Federal Government had secured 1.5 million of the point-of-care tests to be used in general practices in the fight against COVID-19.
"They will allow us to assist with greater testing of health workers themselves to give them the confidence and — where appropriate — patients," he said at the time. The tests, given fast-track approval by the TGA, detect IgM and IgG antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 from venous or fingerprick blood samples placed on a test strip. While they can produce results in about 15-30 minutes, experts have raised concerns about false-negative rates and warn they are unreliable for detection of acute COVID-19. The Royal College of Pathologists of Australasia on Wednesday warned the tests had a “fundamental limitation” because antibodies could take up to 12 days to develop, long aer a person becomes infectious. Instead, PCR tests, which detect fragments of the virus and have been used in Australia so far, should continue to be the diagnostic gold-standard test, it says.
Now, two states have used emergency powers to prohibit anyone from using a point-of-care serological test as an acute illness diagnostic tool. The tests are due to arrive "within days", according to the Federal Government. In WA, GPs who oer the tests can be fined up to $20,000, while companies face fines of up to $100,000 under the state’s Public Health Act. The WA Department of Health said they made the declaration because of concerns about the “serious limitations” of the tests, which oered an “unacceptable risk” of community transmission due to false negatives. Health oicials stressed that the serological tests could be used as a screening tool for people aer they have had the infection or for the purpose of public health research. SA also announced a ban on Thursday, with oicials declaring that use of the tests “may adversely aect the prevention, control and abatement of the serious public health risk presented by COVID-19”. The State Government said the ban would apply to anyone outside SA Pathology employees or public health services, with police able to issue fines of up to $1000 to GPs and $5000 to companies that ordered the test.
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Mick
 
My favourite site for satire, The babylon Bee
Pfizer Releases Brand New, Never-Before-Seen Drug 'Pfivermectin'
Health
September 4th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com
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U.S.—After several successful rounds of trials and a quick overnight approval from the FDA, Pfizer proudly announced they will be releasing a brand new, never-before-seen COVID drug "Pfivermectin."
"It's important to understand that this drug is nothing like Ivermectin, even though Pfivermectin rhymes with Ivermectin and it pretty much does the exact same thing," said Pfizer CEO Hans Pfizer. "Everyone knows Ivermectin is a widely discredited horse drug, and ours is not. Very important distinction there."
Experts say that taking two doses of Pfivermectin every day at the first sign of COVID symptoms could lessen the severity and duration of the infection. Ivermectin will do the same thing, except it may also turn you into a horse and make everyone laugh at you. Not good!

A Pfizer spokesman also confirmed that their drug will be approximately 30,000% more expensive than Ivermectin.

"Don't worry about the cost," said the spokesman. "The government will cover the cost. Besides, that's a small price to pay to not turn into a horse!"
 
basilio said:
A different perspective on Craig Kelly and his campaign as Freedom Fighter.

theshot.net.au

In defence of Craig Kelly, freedom fighter - The Shot

What most of us don’t realise, because we’re sheeple, is that we’re being lied to.
theshot.net.au theshot.net.au
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The UAP is on track to have the most membership of any party at this stage. These guys are just grifters. But I'd probably vote them just as a protest vote against the idiots now.
 

Joe Rogan blasts ‘lies’ about Covid drug treatment: ‘Do I have to sue CNN?’​


www.news.com.au

Joe Rogan blasts ‘lies’ about Covid drug

Podcast host Joe Rogan wondered if he should sue CNN after the liberal network accused him of distributing misinformation after taking ivermectin, an antiparasitic drug that has recently prompted federal health warnings, during his battle with COVID-19.
www.news.com.au www.news.com.au


Still interested in proper studies and combinations. Apparently treated by a doctor. He has the money for decent healthcare. He isn't on the lower end of the scale
 
moXJO said:
The UAP is on track to have the most membership of any party at this stage. These guys are just grifters. But I'd probably vote them just as a protest vote against the idiots now.
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Agreed, and exactly how I am thinking at the moment. Either UAP or lib dems depending who I think will have the greatest chance to stick it up the establishment at the time
 
I am grieving, how can this be happening ? If someone chooses not to vaccinate and then dies, so be it
 

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wayneL said:
Agreed, and exactly how I am thinking at the moment. Either UAP or lib dems depending who I think will have the greatest chance to stick it up the establishment at the time
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Kelly seems to be garnering a big loon base. If you want a shake up, put the loons in charge that have a "Born Free" leaning membership.

"Lib dem" sound to much like Liberals or Democrats to our uneducated population. I don't think they will get enough vote numbers just because of the name.

UAP is great at conning the masses. Problem is the generally implode a few months after winning. Still, a large vote for them will make the other parties back off the authoritarian measures.

I heard a few liberal die-hards are voting one nation.
Can't stand some of the members of these parties. But when you have media as left as "the atlantic" questioning if Australia is still considered a "liberal democracy". You know we are in trouble.

www.theatlantic.com

Australia Traded Away Too Much Liberty

How long can a democracy maintain emergency restrictions and still call itself a free country?
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

You know how you wondered how those shtbowl countries allowed themselves to lose all their freedoms. Pretty obvious now that half the population starts d1ckriding into oblivion.
 
Joules MM1 said:
but wait, there's....
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You do realise it ivermectin has been a human medicine for several decades?

you do realise that when you invoke the horse dewormer argument that you make yourself look like an absolute idiot and propagandist.

Ivermectin in correct dose does not cause sterilisation, so f*** off idiot.
 
wayneL said:
You do realise it ivermectin has been a human medicine for several decades?

you do realise that when you invoke the horse dewormer argument that you make yourself look like an absolute idiot and propagandist.

Ivermectin in correct dose does not cause sterilisation, so f*** off idiot.
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I think he is only trolling you Wayne,

It is a known fact that the drug is one of the few drugs that has won a Nobel Prize and has saved millions of lives.

Then again if anyone does not know that then there is no hope for the world as we know it
 
macca said:
I think he is only trolling you Wayne,

It is a known fact that the drug is one of the few drugs that has won a Nobel Prize and has saved millions of lives.

Then again if anyone does not know that then there is no hope for the world as we know it
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No doubt, macca.

But one must only have a cursory bruessel of the mainstream media and the over-arching narrative is that ivermectin is a horse wormer and anyone taking the drug is going in to feed shops and buying tubes of paste.... And overdosing themselves.

On the left almost nobody realises, or is willing to accept that it is is human drug available by prescription... And they are all too willing to spread this information for their own dystopian ends.

F*** them, their stupidity needs to be called out as often as necessary.
 
wayneL said:
You do realise it ivermectin has been a human medicine for several decades?

you do realise that when you invoke the horse dewormer argument that you make yourself look like an absolute idiot and propagandist.

Ivermectin in correct dose does not cause sterilisation, so f*** off idiot.
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before youre blocked, here's something to investigate, albeit not peer reviewed
it is the source of the homour, which, you had appeared to have recovered yourself
www.wfla.com

Ivermectin infertility story correction: FDA rejects 2011 Nigeria study

A national story regarding Ivermectin and a study regarding its effect on men’s reproductive health that KTSM published, has been removed from our website.
www.wfla.com www.wfla.com
have the last word, i wont bother reading it or know you posted it
 
respectfulinsolence.com

Ivermectin is the new hydroxychloroquine, take 6: More fraud?

Ivermectin has been hyped without evidence as "miracle cure" for COVID-19. It turns out that more widely cited studies were likely fraudulent.
respectfulinsolence.com respectfulinsolence.com

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For anti-vaccine activists, the clinical trial results couldn’t have been better. The drug ivermectin, scientists in Argentina announced last year, prevented 100% of COVID-19 infections.
That glowing finding helped spark a craze for the decades-old medication, which is normally used to delouse people and deworm livestock, and drive the perception that it is a silver bullet against the pandemic.
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Let me just stop right there. Any study that concludes that a drug is 100% effective is very suspect right off the bat. Why? Almost nothing in medicine is 100% effective, and a claim of 100% efficacy would be far higher than the known efficacy of treatments that have been demonstrated to be extremely efficacious. As our friend Meyerowitz-Katz put it in his article on the topic:
 
Not sure if posted, but this is certainly very interesting.

Pfizer Phase 1 trail for mRNA cancer treatment


A First-in-Human Dose Escalation and Expansion Study to Evaluate Intratumoral Administration of SAR441000 as Monotherapy and in Combination With Cemiplimab in Patients With Advanced Solid Tumors​


Brief Summary:​
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Primary Objectives:​
  • Dose Escalation: To determine maximum tolerated dose (MTD) or maximum administered dose (MAD) and overall safety and tolerability profile of SAR441000 when administered intratumorally as monotherapy and in combination with cemiplimab in patients who have no alternative standard treatment options.
  • Dose Expansion (Combination): To determine the objective response rate of SAR441000 administered intratumorally in combination with cemiplimab in patients with melanoma, cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma or head and neck squamous cell carcinoma.
Secondary Objectives:​
  • To characterize the pharmacokinetic (PK) profile of SAR441000 administered as monotherapy and in combination with cemiplimab.
  • To assess the immunogenicity of SAR441000.
  • To characterize the safety of SAR441000 when administered intratumorally in combination with cemiplimab.
  • To determine the disease control rate (DCR), duration of response (DoR) and progression free survival (PFS) of SAR441000.
  • To determine the recommended dose of SAR441000 for the expansion phase.


Official Title:A Phase 1 First-in-Human Dose Escalation and Expansion Study for the Evaluation of Safety, Pharmacokinetics, Pharmacodynamics and Anti-tumor Activity of SAR441000 Administered Intratumorally as Monotherapy and in Combination With Cemiplimab in Patients With Advanced Solid Tumors





Moderna for mRNA HIV treatment


A Phase 1 Study to Evaluate the Safety and Immunogenicity of eOD-GT8 60mer mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1644) and Core-g28v2 60mer mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1644v2-Core)​



Brief Summary:

A Phase 1, Randomized, First-in-human, Open-label Study to Evaluate the Safety and Immunogenicity of eOD-GT8 60mer mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1644) and Core-g28v2 60mer mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1644v2-Core) in HIV-1 Uninfected Adults in Good General Health


Official Title:A Phase 1, Randomized, First-in-human, Open-label Study to Evaluate the Safety and Immunogenicity of eOD-GT8 60mer mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1644) and Core-g28v2 60mer mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1644v2-Core) in HIV-1 Uninfected Adults in Good General Health




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There has been a bit of a kerfuffle about people interpreting the 5 sacred reason for leaving your house.
It seems that some people from Melbourne were booking both tests and indeed vaccinations in regional areas.
The rules stated that going to get tested was one of the 5 sacred reasons, but it din'r specify how far you were allowed to go.
From Sheppnews

COVID-19 commander Jeroen Weimar said restrictions have tightened around where Melburnians can go to get vaccinated.

"You cannot go to regional Victoria for a vaccination," he said, speaking to metropolitan residents.

"You cannot go to regional Victoria for a test.

"It's a really clear rule."

Previously, the rules were not this explicit, although Mr Weimar said people were never encouraged to travel long distances for a test or vaccine if it could be avoided.

"We've never wanted to see people going huge lengths to go and get vaccinated three hours away from their home," he said.

On September 6, GV Health confirmed a report there was "a large group from Melbourne" at the McIntosh Centre the week prior.
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I can't imagine this is not also happening in other lockdown areas in NSW.
Never underestimate the peoples ability to get around rules and regs.
Mick
 
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