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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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bellenuit said:
It hasn't reinforced anything you said. You don't set the guidelines on mask wearing and any prejudice you may have against it is of no concern. There have been sufficient health studies to justify it in most circumstances. Banning mandating of masks defeats its effectiveness.

Masks aside, you have ignored everything else that I raised such as demonising of health workers.

Can you tell me what Biden is doing that is causing the current outbreak to be worse than it should be? He is following the scientific guidelines while Trump's cohorts are going their best to thwart them. He can't personally defeat the virus and he needs all states pulling together to have any effect, Those pulling against him are GOP controlled states, who now happen to have some of the worst affected populations.
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How on earth is Biden doing a good job if he can't in fact do his job?
You basically posted up a sob story when Biden has had a very soft touch from media with little pressure at all.

Last time I checked there was a core group here blaming Trump for everything (even when it wasn't true). Even when Biden has media onside. He still can't answer questions to a friendly media pack.

Cases of covid are blowing out but it's still trumps fault. Afganistan withdrawal was a bloody mess, Na nothing. The border is a bloody mess, Na let's bury that. If this were Trump the media and the screeches on here would be deafening.

They guy basically rolled out Trumps vaccination plan and is now stumped.
Possibly the weakest leadership ever (and Obama was running a close 2nd)

As for masks I was one of the first to post up the studies and data.
If you think they protect you then you better go read again. The most the majority do is limit the distance when you exhale/ stop you touching your face. The virus still travels through.

I'm not a fan of it for schools. You know, because science based.. Not cult based. I may become a fan when the science changes.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published a notable, yet mostly ignored, large-scale study of COVID transmission in American schools. A few major news outlets covered its release by briefly reiterating the study’s summary: that masking then-unvaccinated teachers and improving ventilation with more fresh air were associated with a lower incidence of the virus in schools. Those are common-sense measures, and the fact that they seem to work is reassuring but not surprising. Other findings of equal importance in the study, however, were absent from the summary and not widely reported. These findings cast doubt on the impact of many of the most common mitigation measures in American schools. Distancing, hybrid models, classroom barriers, HEPA filters, and, most notably, requiring student masking were each found to not have a statistically significant benefit. In other words, these measures could not be said to be effective.
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basilio said:
Excellent graphical overview of where Australia is going with COVID.

Check out the graph of our current new cases. It is not good.o_O

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www.theguardian.com

Covid Australia vaccine rollout tracker: total number of people and per cent vaccinated, daily vaccine doses and rate of progress

How does Australia’s coronavirus vaccine rollout and schedule compare with other countries, when will Australia be fully vaccinated and when will you be eligible to get your dose? We bring together the latest numbers on daily new Covid-19 cases, as well as stats and live data on total...
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NSW should get to double the number of cases that Victoria had and still be at 1/4 the deaths. Still a terrible thing but it's better than nothing.

Hopefully vaccination keeps up. Nsw will no doubt just open the gates when we hit the target. Get vaccinated if you haven't already as hospitals are filling.
 
moXJO said:
NSW should get to double the number of cases that Victoria had and still be at 1/4 the deaths. Still a terrible thing but it's better than nothing.

Hopefully vaccination keeps up. Nsw will no doubt just open the gates when we hit the target. Get vaccinated if you haven't already as hospitals are filling.
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Like we have been saying since the beginning, these lockdowns where designed to reduce the load on the hospital system, when the system is in a position to cope there wont be any lockdowns. Then everyone gets the virus, vaccinated or not, people do have choices.
Interesting that today NSW has 74% with the first vaccine dose, that has certainly happened quickly, obviously shows hesitancy is all but gone.
Even on the National figures, they are saying 63% have had the first dose, W.A and Qld are lagging a bit at 53% but we do have the protection of our State leaders taking the good fight up to the virus.
 
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basilio said:
Let's see what happens when COVID gets a head of steam.
It will become real when it's us or a friend who can't get into hospital.
Or the people running the system just run out of steam.

www.theguardian.com

How will hospitals cope when NSW Covid cases hit 2,000 a day? Here’s what the modelling says

We examine Burnet Institute projections for how the state’s healthcare system will respond to pressure in coming weeks
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Na let's just keep up the vaccination and bring this to a head. Even young people in nsw are going in on their own accord.

The cases are pretty concentrated at the moment. I think by November things will be a lot worse stat wise.

If you need a vaccine best of getting it now. It's walk ins for astra. I know it got a bad rap. But I do think it's better than pfizer.
 
moXJO said:
If you need a vaccine best of getting it now. It's walk ins for astra. I know it got a bad rap. But I do think it's better than pfizer.
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I think there is a lot less unknowns with AZ, the daughters took us out for lunch on Sunday, the younger one said she has decided to have AZ. Absolutely no input from me, as I've said before, it is an issue I'm reluctant to give advice on, definitely a personal choice IMO.
 
sptrawler said:
I think there is a lot less unknowns with AZ, the daughters took us out for lunch on Sunday, the younger one said she has decided to have AZ. Absolutely no input from me, as I've said before, it is an issue I'm reluctant to give advice on, definitely a personal choice IMO.
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It lasts longer and the effects of vector vax are known.
 
for all the aluminium haute couture headwear gang
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moXJO said:
Na let's just keep up the vaccination and bring this to a head. Even young people in nsw are going in on their own accord.

The cases are pretty concentrated at the moment. I think by November things will be a lot worse stat wise.

If you need a vaccine best of getting it now. It's walk ins for astra. I know it got a bad rap. But I do think it's better than pfizer.
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Ahah, maybe one day the world will accept Sputnik V? From what I've heard from people around me, the side effects are give or take the same for AZ and Sputnik, and none of my friends who got Sputnik in Russia eventually got sick. Who knows, who knows...
 
Alexander_Zhu said:
Ahah, maybe one day the world will accept Sputnik V? From what I've heard from people around me, the side effects are give or take the same for AZ and Sputnik, and none of my friends who got Sputnik in Russia eventually got sick. Who knows, who knows...
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Pfizer basically got a mass study of rna technology. Probably some well placed articles and everyone thought pfizer vax was the best.

All the other vaccines were probably safer (including Chinese/Russian vax) considering rna had no long term studies and the known effects on the organs.
 
So vaccine passports will become a thing. Ok what if you have already had covid and already have immunity?

Interesting thing in France: Westfield group and our very own Billionaire Frank Lowy (is he dead yet?) seems to have endorsed police beating unvaccinated Frenchies our of his shopping centres.

Protests eventually chased the cops out.



Slightly more credible news article(always double check Twitter cr@p

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Get latest mobile and technology News and updates across the world on Paudal.com . Read news on computer, apps, games, gadgets and other personal tech.
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NSW Health limits residents of locked-down tower block to six beers per day​


www.news.com.au

Six-beer limit for homes in strict lockdown

Residents in apartment blocks locked-down by NSW Health are having their alcohol deliveries policed as part of a policy to limit the number of drinks being consumed each day.
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It's overstepping the mark in my view.

For the record I very rarely drink alcohol, haven't touched the stuff at all for years, but my own view isn't the point. If people want to drink to the point of getting drunk well that's a separate issue to the pandemic and the law doesn't preclude doing so.
 
Macron and his cabal of Satanists have forsaken the French motto of "Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité"

The French people haven't.

 
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