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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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rederob said:
...to the extent that responsible social media platforms have deleted it.
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Are these the same responsible social media platforms that delete otherwise innocuous conservative and centre-right channels?

You have got to be kidding me, man.
 
qldfrog said:
Discredit, suppress, distord, overwhelm.. basic propaganda.
Maybe they were not qualified?: they disagree with my opinion
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Or maybe the evidence from a medical website shows that these doctors in fact had little direct contact with COVID sufferers.

Which directly contradicts the premise of their "Front Line Doctors"tag.

Of course there was at least one doctor who says she has treated 350 COVID patients. But before we take that on face value:

1) Can she offer any evidence of the alleged 360 people she treated and cured ?
2) If some people want to take her on face value as an honest person do we also believe her promotions around astral sex, demons and a host of other views?
Check out Anderson Coopers summary of the story which incorporates Dr Immanuel in full flight.

 
wayneL said:
Are these the same responsible social media platforms that delete otherwise innocuous conservative and centre-right channels?
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Indeed.
After Wayne highlighted where we could find the video I put on my scuba suit and went for a swim in Bitchute.

I thought it was well worth while just to understand what sorts of ideas could be accepted under the banner of Free Speech.

Very bracing.
 
I am not talking about bitchute bas, I'm talking about ordinary conservative and centre-right channels that have been deleted from >>YouTube<<

Try to represent some sort of honesty in your posts, we are awake to Alinsky and his rules for radicals, komrade.
 

You mean like Alex Jones ?
 
CNN isn't legit
 
SirRumpole said:
Such as ?
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Every conservative news outlet covering Biden. Search results are being suppressed. All conservatives. And how about ASF. Pretty sure I got neutered from an opinion or google was going to flag the site. Its not imaginary. Right wingers are currently ditching twitter and moving to Parler
 
One of the main natural remedy sites in the world, with a proven track record over many years, now only shows up when specifically included in the search detail.

Censoring is happening every second of every day

Joe, remove this post if a problem
 
wayneL said:
I am not talking about bitchute bas, I'm talking about ordinary conservative and centre-right channels that have been deleted from >>YouTube<<
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Wayne I believe I have got this right..
You Tube has decided that a range of organizations and individuals are promoting lies, extreme misinformation, racial abuse, hate stories. It has bumped them off You Tube and these organisations have attempted to find another space to present their views.

BitChute is one (or the only ?) site to allow these bodies to post under the banner of free speech.

So which organizations/people which have been bumped off You Tube represent the conservative and centre-right channels ?

I suggested Infowars as a starter. Others would be ?
 
There's various lists but you have to use bing or another search engine as Google censored that as well
 
qldfrog said:
Subject is : is covid different from other viruses, nastier in its after infection effects.
So far nothing unusual but i am sure my link was fake news
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That sort of sums it up really.

How bad is it?

Well for a non-medical person like me, finding that out is basically a task of trying to work out what's true and what isn't true since there's an abundance of conflicting information around and that's the problem.
 

There is conflicting information but it seems that there are relatively few medical authorities saying it's "harmless" to most people, and quite a few saying that that it could cause long term effects.

Which is why I agree with your suspicions a while ago when you said that "some" governments moved very quickly to try and shut the virus down. I think the medical authorities knew that it wasn't just another flu, but some politicians appear to have ignored their advice.
 
A matter of where you put the middle needle
A virus which continate people with only 25% even experimenting fever..basically any symptom.
How fo you define that
Very contagious indeed..nasty..not in my opinion
But we are in a country where a pool in a 40 acre property has to be fenced in case a kid walk by...
So ..to each his own..
 
Chinese-backed hackers 'targeted COVID-19
vaccine firm Moderna'
​

Moderna's vaccine candidate is one of the earliest and biggest bets
by the Trump administration to fight the pandemic.​


Chinese government-linked hackers targeted biotech company Moderna Inc - a leading United States-based coronavirus vaccine research developer - earlier this year in a bid to steal valuable data, according to a US security official tracking Chinese hacking activity.

Last week, the US Justice Department made public an indictment of two Chinese nationals accused of spying on the US, including three unnamed US-based targets involved in medical research to fight the COVID-19 pandemic.

The indictment states the Chinese hackers "conducted reconnaissance" against the computer network of a Massachusetts biotech firm known to be working on a coronavirus vaccine in January.

Moderna, which is based in Massachusetts and announced its COVID-19 vaccine candidate in January, confirmed to Reuters news agency that the company had been in contact with the FBI and was made aware of the suspected "information reconnaissance activities" by the hacking group mentioned in last week's indictment.

Reconnaissance activities can include a wide range of actions, including probing public websites for vulnerabilities to scouting out important accounts after entering a network, cybersecurity experts say.

"Moderna remains highly vigilant to potential cybersecurity threats, maintaining an internal team, external support services and good working relationships with outside authorities to continuously assess threats and protect our valuable information," spokesman Ray Jordan said, declining to provide further details.

The US security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, did not provide further details. The FBI and the US Department of Health and Human Services declined to disclose the identities of companies targeted by Chinese hackers.

Moderna's vaccine candidate is one of the earliest and biggest bets by the Trump administration to fight the pandemic. The federal government is supporting the development of the company's vaccine with nearly half a billion dollars and helping Moderna launch a clinical trial of up to 30,000 people beginning this month.

China is also racing to develop a vaccine, bringing together its state, military and private sectors to combat a disease that has killed more than 660,000 people worldwide.

A July 7 indictment released last week alleges that the two Chinese hackers, Li Xiaoyu and Dong Jiazhi, conducted a decade-long hacking spree that most recently included the targeting of COVID-19 medical research groups.

Prosecutors said Li and Dong acted as contractors for China's Ministry of State Security, a state intelligence agency. Messages left with several accounts registered under Li's digital alias, oro0lxy, were not returned. Contact details for Dong were not available.

The Chinese Embassy in Washington referred Reuters to recent Chinese Foreign Ministry comments that said: "China has long been a major victim of cyberthefts and attacks" and its officials "firmly oppose and fight" such activities. The Chinese government has consistently denied any role in hacking incidents across the globe. The embassy spokesperson did not address specific questions sent via email.

The two other unnamed medical research companies mentioned in the Justice Department indictment are described as biotech companies based in California and Maryland. Prosecutors said the hackers "searched for vulnerabilities" and "conducted reconnaissance" against them.

The court filing describes the California firm as working on antiviral drug research and suggested the Maryland company had publicly announced efforts to develop a vaccine in January. Two companies that could match those descriptions: Gilead Sciences Inc and Novavax Inc.

Gilead spokesperson Chris Ridley said the firm does not comment on cybersecurity matters. Novavax would not comment on specific cybersecurity activities but said: "Our cybersecurity team has been alerted to the alleged foreign threats identified in the news."

A security consultant familiar with multiple hacking investigations involving premier biotech firms over the last year said Chinese hacking groups believed to be broadly associated with China's Ministry of State security are one of the primary forces targeting COVID-19 research globally. This matches the description of the indicted hackers as MSS contractors.​

 
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