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Well it's good to see it isn't just a bloke thing. :whistling:


The ICAC’s full report has now been released. The corruption watchdog found former premier Gladys Berejiklian and former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire both engaged in serious corrupt conduct.
And, and it took two years to come to that conclusion.!!!!!
Just how many "mates" got a lift up due to her position of power.
Loved the quote fro darryl to her on the news report tonight
You may be the Premier of the State, but I AM the BOSS ok.
Yes she replied.
I think that says it all.
 
Thankfully NSW have an ICAC. ;)

Surprise, surprise, NSW ICAC to investigate NSW ICAC, it doesn't get better than that. ?
Talk about a joke.

From the article:
The watchdog overseeing the NSW Independent Commission Against Corruption will conduct a formal investigation of the delay in making findings against Gladys Berejiklian and her former partner Daryl Maguire.

The Guardian can reveal the Inspector of the Independent Commission Against Corruption, which fields complaints about Icac and oversees its conduct, is preparing to investigate the widely criticised delays.


“The inspector is currently determining the scope of an investigation around the delay in the furnishing of the Operation Keppel report to parliament,” a spokesperson said.
 
Bad times ahead for Conservatives ?

I would take that with a pinch of salt, the younger generation haven't had much exposure to Labor, so wait till after a couple of terms before making any assumptions IMO.
After John Howard and a dose of Kev 'I'm here to help', it soon went pear shaped for Labor and the current Native Title, Voice, Inflation, Immigration, Housing, Electricity, whirlpool isn't settling people.
A lot will depend on how many of these issues can get bedded down, ATM there are a lot of balls up in the air and not many look like getting landed well.
If they all turn to manure, all of a sudden the dull boring Coalition, look a lot more attractive. Living on the edge with Labor isn't for the faint hearted and there are plenty of young faint hearted families living on the edge, being asked to worry about a referendum.
I'm not sure that is the most pressing thing on their minds ATM. :roflmao:
It is for the rich elites in their McMansions overlooking the Sydney Harbour bridge, I'm not so sure it is for those in struggle street trying to pay the electricity bill, mortgage and or rent that has ramped under Albo's watch, time will tell.

The lady in the article nails it:
She said the future-oriented analysis fails to take into account changes in the political parties, the policies they offer and the lived experience of the individual.

“As a demographer, it’s becoming ever more apparent that comparing generations and pigeonholing generations using arbitrary dates that fit nicely into Gen X, Gen Y or the millennials, it’s not helpful,” she said.

“This analysis is essentially a series of hypotheticals based on previous generations’ behaviours, and it is applying those assumptions of those observed hypotheticals from previous generations to future generations.”
 
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I would take that with a pinch of salt, the younger generation haven't had much exposure to Labor, so wait till after a couple of terms before making any assumptions IMO.
After John Howard and a dose of Kev 'I'm here to help', it soon went pear shaped for Labor and the current Native Title, Voice, Inflation, Immigration, Housing, Electricity, whirlpool isn't settling people.
A lot will depend on how many of these issues can get bedded down, ATM there are a lot of balls up in the air and not many look like getting landed well.
If they all turn to manure, all of a sudden the dull boring Coalition, look a lot more attractive. Living on the edge with Labor isn't for the faint hearted and there are plenty of young faint hearted families living on the edge, being asked to worry about a referendum.
I'm not sure that is the most pressing thing on their minds ATM. :roflmao:
It is for the rich elites in their McMansions overlooking the Sydney Harbour bridge, I'm not so sure it is for those in struggle street trying to pay the electricity bill, mortgage and or rent that has ramped under Albo's watch, time will tell.

The lady in the article nails it:
She said the future-oriented analysis fails to take into account changes in the political parties, the policies they offer and the lived experience of the individual.

“As a demographer, it’s becoming ever more apparent that comparing generations and pigeonholing generations using arbitrary dates that fit nicely into Gen X, Gen Y or the millennials, it’s not helpful,” she said.

“This analysis is essentially a series of hypotheticals based on previous generations’ behaviours, and it is applying those assumptions of those observed hypotheticals from previous generations to future generations.”
It also assumes that the younger generation do not acquire wisdom/cyncism like the rest of us as they age.
Various forms of the quote below are still true.
Not to be a républicain at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.

If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no head.

If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no head.
Mick
 
Bad times ahead for Conservatives ?

For example @SirRumpole , this is the first time a lot of young working families have faced these issues and before the last election power prices and immigration were what Labor said they would keep a lid on. Interesting times.

Mr Gibson said the bill for the turmoil was now being paid but it was coming at the worst possible time for many households who were already grappling with rocketing costs of living.

He said $3 billion of combined assistance from state and federal governments would help ease the pain for many consumers, although it would not shield everybody.

"I think it's going to hit particularly those households that don't necessarily have access to concession cards or other rebates, that don't necessarily qualify, but aren't necessarily high-income households," he said.

"So, it's middle Australians that are going to get hit hardest of all by all these increases because they may not qualify for any of those extra rebates or assistance that's coming.

"And yet, they're going to get, probably, a $500 to a $1,000 increase in their energy costs at a time when their insurance premiums are going up, their mortgage rates or their rents are rising.
 
Like I said in an earlier post Albo's playing with a lot of balls in the air and how he lands them will determine how well Labor does.
Obviously Labor said electricity bills will go down, but they have gone ballistic, so Labor are throwing out relief packages.
Labor said they disagreed with increased immigration, but it has gone through the roof, so the narrative moves on to how much money they are throwing at housing.
They have been increasing inflation through increased pay rises, which actually has increased the bracket creep and increased the tax take and budget surplus.
So IMO Albo is actually being very much like Hawke, it is all about perception, many still see Hawke as the messiah and he was great, but the working Australian was screwed to fix the economy.
That probably doesn't matter, because everyone did get a better life, it is just that a lot of smoke and mirrors cover how it was done.
I think Albo is working on the same road map and Australia will be better for it, but the chance of Australians owning a house may become more difficult, time will tell. :2twocents
 
many still see Hawke as the messiah and he was great, but the working Australian was screwed to fix the economy.
Looking at back then, we basically threw some on the scrap heap to save the rest. It was the beginning of the divided society we have today which has progressively increased ever since under successive governments of both persuasions.

The problem at this point is the number of "losers" is becoming large enough to really matter politically. :2twocents
 
Looking at back then, we basically threw some on the scrap heap to save the rest. It was the beginning of the divided society we have today which has progressively increased ever since under successive governments of both persuasions.

The problem at this point is the number of "losers" is becoming large enough to really matter politically. :2twocents
It was the same rhetoric as today, which is we will work on a compromise, co operation and consultation basis.
Those working coped a pay drop, with the fall of the Australian dollar and then the wages accord ensured wages lagged cpi. which made us more competitive internationally.
So yes some were thrown on the scrap heap, so that the unemployment went down from 10% and then the slow decline of the middle class started.
Now we are seeing the decimation of the middle class IMO, if you have any wealth you are going to be made to spend it, as the demonising of the baby boomers who are aging is proving.
Yet the next generation unless they inherit are not going to be able to afford to pay for a house, so therefore the rich get richer the middle class slide.
It isn't a good scenario and it will end up with a much worse place for our kids, but hey as long as the East Coast media is ok and they are riding the wave, all's good.:thumbsdown:
 
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I really don't comprehend why anyone supports either side really.

We're on the path to a very small number of rich people and everyone else being poor and we've been on that path for quite some time now. :2twocents
All we really need now is to be a republic and it is a done deal, sadly that is the next step IMO.
The thing that makes Australia great, is unfortunately its achilles heel, we think that if we are nice everyone will treat us nicely.
Well that's how every victim feels, before the act sadly.
I don't have enough to help all my kids unfortunately.
The saving grace is IMO, I will be gone before it comes to fruition. ;)
My gut feeling is, mainstream Australia will start and overcome mainstream media, before we fall into complete meltdown.
Dumb sht, lead by over paid dumb pr!cks, can't last forever IMO.
 
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I really don't comprehend why anyone supports either side really.

We're on the path to a very small number of rich people and everyone else being poor and we've been on that path for quite some time now. :2twocents
Silly decision to cancel plans to design and build our own satellites. It can't save a lot of money and we have a $28billion surplus.

These things aren't always about commercial profits, sometimes it's about straight capability and less dependence on others. Now there will likely be a brain drain to other countries which will be hard to recover.
 
Like I said in an earlier post Albo's playing with a lot of balls in the air and how he lands them will determine how well Labor does.
Obviously Labor said electricity bills will go down, but they have gone ballistic, so Labor are throwing out relief packages.
Labor said they disagreed with increased immigration, but it has gone through the roof, so the narrative moves on to how much money they are throwing at housing.
They have been increasing inflation through increased pay rises, which actually has increased the bracket creep and increased the tax take and budget surplus.
So IMO Albo is actually being very much like Hawke, it is all about perception, many still see Hawke as the messiah and he was great, but the working Australian was screwed to fix the economy.
That probably doesn't matter, because everyone did get a better life, it is just that a lot of smoke and mirrors cover how it was done.
I think Albo is working on the same road map and Australia will be better for it, but the chance of Australians owning a house may become more difficult, time will tell. :2twocents
Same old cycle, Labor ****s everything up and Libs have to fix everything...

'cept the Libs **** everything up as well.
 
So silence on the report today re Robo Debt…. Crickets ??
 
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