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StumpyPhantom said:
So, with the proper amount of humility, she could have re-opened Nauru 2 years ago and the boats would have stoppoed by now.

Foolish, stubborn pride, I reckon. Much more so than a broken promise.
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Don't forget those slippery Greens. Probably a condition of minority government like the carbon tax.

Now Labor's taking the heat and the Greens are aiming for their so-called high moral ground while eroding Labor's voter base.
 
The Greens now think they're clever enough to rewrite history in order to promote their own policy agenda.

Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young said it was “deceitful” for the Coalition to be asserting that a return to the Howard-era asylum-seeker policies would fix the current problem.

She said increasing Australia's humanitarian refugee intake would help stem the boats.

“This issue of a deterrent has been proven to fail time and time again,” she told Sky News's Australian Agenda program.

“This idea that we need to set up another Christmas Island just isn't realistic and it's a myth. It's deceitful,” she said of the Coalition's push to reopen a processing centre on Nauru.

“We need to stop people boarding boats in first place. We have to give them a safer option.”
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ts-the-navys-job/story-fn9hm1gu-1226420177859

They clearly consider the Australian public at large to be stupid.
 
From the above link:
Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young said it was “deceitful” for the Coalition to be asserting that a return to the Howard-era asylum-seeker policies would fix the current problem.

She said increasing Australia's humanitarian refugee intake would help stem the boats.

“This issue of a deterrent has been proven to fail time and time again,” she told Sky News's Australian Agenda program.

“This idea that we need to set up another Christmas Island just isn't realistic and it's a myth. It's deceitful,” she said of the Coalition's push to reopen a processing centre on Nauru.

“We need to stop people boarding boats in first place. We have to give them a safer option.”
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They already have a safer option, Ms Hanson-Young. That is to wait their turn to be properly assessed as refugees in one of hundreds of UNHCR refugee camps. Just as others without the means to pay people smugglers are doing.

Hopefully, Labor are finally waking up to the reality that is The Greens.
 
Julia said:
From the above link:


They already have a safer option, Ms Hanson-Young. That is to wait their turn to be properly assessed as refugees in one of hundreds of UNHCR refugee camps. Just as others without the means to pay people smugglers are doing.

Hopefully, Labor are finally waking up to the reality that is The Greens.
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Might be too late to divorce the Greens. Does anyone have a copy of that document that Gillard and Brown were filmed to be co-signing after the 2010 election?

I suspect no lawyer worth their salt was asked to look at it, so there's no exit clause and it implicitly means they're running a joint ticket at the next election.

That would be a good query for question-time when Parliament resumes, asking Labor to table that document. Would the Carbon Tax promise be in there? Can't imagine Brown would be silly enough to trust Gillard as far as he could throw her.

And if Wilkie had signed a similarly enforceable document, wouldn't he have tried in a Court somewhere to enforce it? DUMBO!
 
I love how quickly Chinese immigrants assimilate.:)

William Lung, who five years ago immigrated from China with his wife Vivien, said the nation's borders were at risk from illegal boat arrivals. "You need some action to contain people coming to Australia."

Mr Lung, a decoration consultant, voted Labor at the last election, in part because "Kevin Rudd can speak Chinese". This time, he'll vote Liberal.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...he-western-front/story-fn59niix-1226420572912
 
Calliope said:
I love how quickly Chinese immigrants assimilate.:)

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Nothing wrong to sensibly talk about adopted country.

Chinese immigrants, especially first generation can probably tell few tales about what overpopulation to provided services mean.

Way it goes quality of life will be no envy of anybody, suppose sure thing to stop the boats.

There is no flood of boats to China for that matter, probably slightly for different reasons.
 
At least Tony Abbott is taking a hard line and refusing to participate in Ms Gillard's silly committee.
As he says, the Libs already have a policy on asylum seekers, and do not need a committee to work this out for them.

Gillard has the automatic fallback position of "when I have no idea what to do, I'll form another committee."
Pathetic.
 
Julia said:
At least Tony Abbott is taking a hard line and refusing to participate in Ms Gillard's silly committee.
As he says, the Libs already have a policy on asylum seekers, and do not need a committee to work this out for them.

Gillard has the automatic fallback position of "when I have no idea what to do, I'll form another committee."
Pathetic.
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Yes Julia, and with her influence on that committee she will get the result she is seeking and that will be Malaysia and not Nauru. She will say the experts have spoken.
 
noco said:
Yes Julia, and with her influence on that committee she will get the result she is seeking and that will be Malaysia and not Nauru. She will say the experts have spoken.
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Do you think so? My impression is more that they will recommend onshore processing.
We'll see, I guess.
 
Julia said:
Do you think so? My impression is more that they will recommend onshore processing.
We'll see, I guess.
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Yes, you may well be right. It might be a kiss and make up with the Greens to get them back on side.

Just off the subject, I note the Greens have lost 1% point in the latest polls.
 
We must be producing a lot of carbon dioxide with that new taxi service we are providing to anyone that calls (between Indonesia and Australia).

I think we will soon need more taxis as there seems to be a high demand.
 
This really takes the cake, former Defence Secretary Paul Barratt, saying the navy would hate to have to turn the boats back.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...despite-military-warnings-20120711-21umf.html

There are lots of things that armed forces personnel hate to do, but unfortunately they have to do them. It will become very difficult to run the armed forces if they decide what should and should not be done.
Also saying it is dangerous, well tell that to the armed forces in Afghanistan.
I really don't think there is much upside for ex armed forces personel saying what is right or wrong, it shows they were in the wrong job.:2twocents
Where he says navy personnel won't support the coalition policy, if they are in government,what he advocates amounts to treason.
He sounds like a labor supporter who like the party has lost the plot.
 
dutchie said:
We must be producing a lot of carbon dioxide with that new taxi service we are providing to anyone that calls (between Indonesia and Australia).

I think we will soon need more taxis as there seems to be a high demand.
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We might as well hire a cruise liner with one way trips departing from Denpasar once a week. Christine Milne could welcome them abord.

Labor though would hire the Costa Concordia.
 
sptrawler said:
This really takes the cake, former Defence Secretary Paul Barratt, saying the navy would hate to have to turn the boats back.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...despite-military-warnings-20120711-21umf.html

There are lots of things that armed forces personnel hate to do, but unfortunately they have to do them. It will become very difficult to run the armed forces if they decide what should and should not be done.
Also saying it is dangerous, well tell that to the armed forces in Afghanistan.
I really don't think there is much upside for ex armed forces personel saying what is right or wrong, it shows they were in the wrong job.:2twocents
Where he says navy personnel won't support the coalition policy, if they are in government,what he advocates amounts to treason.
He sounds like a labor supporter who like the party has lost the plot.
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Spot on sptrawler, they appear to be a buch of sooks in the navy. Have a contingent of SAS on board; they won't mess around. In fact I reckon they would relish it.
 
And another boat apparently pretending to be in distress with another 65 thought to be on board - clearly showing that Gillard is incapable of fixing this problem:

THE navy has responded to a distress call from a second asylum-seeker boat in as many days.

The boat made three distress calls about 100 nautical miles north of Christmas Island on Tuesday night.
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BUT

Australian and Indonesian authorities launched a major rescue operation but border protection officials found the boat showing "no visible signs of distress".
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...red-to-navy-ship/story-fn3dxiwe-1226423028739
 
noco said:
And the percentage of Muslims into Australia is continuing to rise.

They stay in hotels in Indonesia for months waiting for smuggler's boat.

Who is paying their hotel bills?

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID OF WHAT IS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would dearly like to know who is footing the hotel bills for these people. Does anyone know how we can find out?

Also while on the subject, I would like to see this weak government of ours lock up the captains of these illegal intruders for 20 years as a derterent and 10 years for the crew. I'll bet the smugglers will soon run out of crew members when the word gets back.
 
Another thing, why doesn't someone ask how many lives has Labor risked by dismantling a system that was working?


Ms Gillard said yesterday the opposition was prepared to risk the lives of navy personnel, as well as asylum seekers.

"I'd ask Mr Abbott, how many lives of navy officers is he prepared to risk?" she said.

"How many lives of navy officers would he be prepared to lose if he was prime minister?"



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...ry-warnings-20120711-21umf.html#ixzz20PQRHkYH

Talk about making a fool of yourself, jeez where is she coming from, she must be delusional.:cry:
 

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