Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[sptrawler]

It would appear Labor are doing a bit of back to the future, in the absence of any policy, they will adopt the 'Abbott lite' policy.

Well it worked for Kev 07, the Howard lite, me too policy platform.

What a sad state of affairs, we find ourselves in.

Labor may adopt the turn back the boats policy.

After all the crap they have thrown at the coalition, for that very same policy, my oh my.

 

[orr]

How far down did you read ?

How naive are you? (don't tell me let me guess)

How long do you want the list to run on those that have been 'protected' by existing whistle blower 'protections'

The first that comes to mind is Timor Leste, Woodside and Alexander Downer/ David Irvine and the exposure of some sensitive negotiations. Downers 'Bespoke Services' contract to Woodside that quickly followed.
And the consequences for the whistle blower, Currently how are his abilities to travel internationally?

You just keep the blinkers on and let the rapes continue.(they're only reffo's)

 

[drsmith]

How naive are you? (don't tell me let me guess)

That's what I thought.

Not very.

 

[drsmith]

It would appear Labor are doing a bit of back to the future, in the absence of any policy, they will adopt the 'Abbott lite' policy.

Well it worked for Kev 07, the Howard lite, me too policy platform.

What a sad state of affairs, we find ourselves in.

Labor may adopt the turn back the boats policy.

After all the crap they have thrown at the coalition, for that very same policy, my oh my.

I remember how they presented themselves as fiscal conservatives in the lead up to the 2007 election.

Should Labor be returned to office, turning back boats and dealing with the Greens in the senate will at best be something of a conflict. More likely, it will be a convenient excuse.

 

[noco]

I remember how they presented themselves as fiscal conservatives in the lead up to the 2007 election.

Should Labor be returned to office, turning back boats and dealing with the Greens in the senate will at best be something of a conflict. More likely, it will be a convenient excuse.

The Green/Labor socialists are all at sea (pardon the pun) when it comes to border control......Joel saying one thing, Richard saying something else and there is poor old Bill saying nothing but probably will agree with the other two even though he does know what they are saying.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...427540671?sv=1bd3b0f803f4c7b16b729e948df16203

 

[drsmith]

11 months now with no boats.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/chan...peration-sovereign-borders-monthly-update-may

Voluntary returns to country of origin from Regional Processing Centres since OSB commenced on 18 September 2013 to 31 May 2015 is 527, an addition of 7 during June.

 

[noco]

11 months now with no boats.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/chan...peration-sovereign-borders-monthly-update-may

Voluntary returns to country of origin from Regional Processing Centres since OSB commenced on 18 September 2013 to 31 May 2015 is 527, an addition of 7 during June.

Doc, with that good news, I wonder how much that has added to the bottom line of our finances?

 

[dutchie]

Doc, with that good news, I wonder how much that has added to the bottom line of our finances?

About $11bn, and still counting.

 

[luutzu]

About $11bn, and still counting.

$1 billion a month for refugees?

Either the number is pulled out of some one's behind or we ought to call some commission and maybe a few court appearances on some people.

At $1B a month... if you were to resettle the refugees in Australia, pay each $10,000 a year, you could settle 100,000 refugees per month, or settles 1.2 million per year.

And it would costs much less than that since some of them might actually go to work and contribute to small businesses and local communities.

 

[drsmith]

The $11bn and still counting is an estimate of the cost blowout from when the Rudd government weakened the Howard government's border protection strategies and the resultant surge in boat arrivals.

It's still counting because we are still having to deal with the legacy of the above.

 

[dutchie]

The $11bn and still counting is an estimate of the cost blowout from when the Rudd government weakened the Howard government's border protection strategies and the resultant surge in boat arrivals.

It's still counting because we are still having to deal with the legacy of the above.

Rusted on ALP followers can't fathom this and are in denial.

 

[noco]

Rusted on ALP followers can't fathom this and are in denial.

The ALP followers can fathom it alright....They just don't like being reminded about how much the Labor Party cost us over that period of stupidity......and it will go on costing us for years to come with social security to keep those illegal bludgers......I would like to know how many are on social welfare as we speak....This was nothing more than a plot to divide the community.

The Green/Labor socialist don't want to talk about that $11 billion + that cost this country with open borders... they would sooner whinge about the $80 million being expended on the Royal commission into union corruption

$80 million is peanuts in comparison of what the unions have cost the economy of Australia over the past 30 years or so.....And what a can of worms the RC has opened.......THE HSU.....the CFMEU.......The AWU and their ex fearless corrupt leader......The workers friend who defrauded them wages in return for "DONATIONS" from companies willing to pay for industrial peace......Donations claimed to be for education and training.

 

[drsmith]

We appear to have a fresh people smuggling operation testing the resolve of the present government's policies,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-20/asylum-seeker-vessel-dampier/6633146

How should we as a nation respond ?

 

[drsmith]

Labor's final indignity from its border protections failure in government,

Labor will endorse a policy of asylum seeker boat ‘turnbacks’ at the party’s national conference in Melbourne this weekend.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten and Shadow Immigration Minister Richard Marles will present the policy.

Tanya won't be happy and how will The Greens respond?
The Senate in particular comes to mind with the latter should Labor win office.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ional-conference/story-fn9hm1gu-1227452953951

 

[orr]

indignity f.......... failure...... government,

How are things down at the apre' W/end Reclaim Australia debrief smith???

'The trick has been to convince these voters that what they really should be angry about are the trendy concerns of an inner-city elite and anyone who could be a convenient scapegoat for their problems. Hence the unending culture war that, like all phoney wars, works best when it instils fear and loathing.

In Australia, Muslims and asylum seekers are only the easiest targets for that loathing. They’re also the best friends of a conservative movement that relies on an ageing and afraid white base.'

An acerbic observation from a larger article. Noting as to why the likes of Barnsey Farnsey Springsteen and Petty are happy to give the 'finger' to the Machiavelli's, Crosby Texter and Goebbelsian types that play on the intellectually less able and enabled.


http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...y-barnes-is-any-rocker-safe-from-rightwingers

 

[drsmith]

How are things down at the apre' W/end Reclaim Australia debrief smith???

I don't know.

You seem to have taken more of an interest in that than I have.

 

[sptrawler]

Labor's final indignity from its border protections failure in government,



Tanya won't be happy and how will The Greens respond?
The Senate in particular comes to mind with the latter should Labor win office.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ional-conference/story-fn9hm1gu-1227452953951

The problem is, the electorate doesn't think Bill could turn back the sheets, let alone turn back the boats.

Just sad, save my ass politics, from Bill and the boys, pretty transparent stuff. IMO

Labor had better have a weekend team building session, to come up with serious policy, me too won't cut it.

Problem is, they are playing to Abbott's strengths, they really are lost ATM.

 

[drsmith]

We appear to have a fresh people smuggling operation testing the resolve of the present government's policies,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-20/asylum-seeker-vessel-dampier/6633146

How should we as a nation respond ?

Labor over the weekend decided that turn backs should be a policy option at their disposal but only to transit countries and not to country of origin.

On Sunday, the politician who did know how to stop the boats, Scott Morrison (Immigration Minister in 2013-14 and now minister for Social Services), delivered what I think is an accurate summation of the shortcomings of the new Shorten policy. He told me:

"Shorten has sent the signal that he is watering down border policy, just as [Chris] Evans did back in 2008, when all the chaos began. They seem to forget it was that decision by Evans to abolish TPVs that set the whole thing in motion last time.

"This supposed support for a turn-back policy is a pale imitation of our policy. Limiting turn-backs to Indonesia is absurd. You may as well issue an invitation to Sri Lanka and Vietnam.

"I had the full, unflinching support of the Prime Minister, the cabinet, the party room, because they all believed it too. Shorten doesn't even have his deputy and would-be foreign minister [Plibersek]."

"For this policy to work you need to do everything you can to turn back safely, not take the first excuse not to turn back, and there are plenty of those. For Labor, this will include a bellowing backbench and a febrile ABC and Fairfax. You have to overcome those and find safe and viable solutions and press on. Turn back can't be an option, it has to be THE option."

Finally, Morrison turned to the rampant opportunism of it all. The Coalition has always been staunch in its belief in the morality of tough border security policies. Labor is not.

"Labor voted in the parliament against strengthening turn-back powers as recently as last November when it voted against our changes to the Maritime Powers Act," Morrison said. "If you don't believe in what you're doing, you can't do it."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/labor...ker-policy-20150726-giktj4.html#ixzz3h58klw3u

Today we have news on the above group and interestingly, the appearance of another policy retreat from Labor,

On Monday Opposition Leader Bill Shorten indicated a Labor government would turn asylum seekers back to their home countries if they were not deemed to be refugees.

The practice of returning asylum seekers to the country they were fleeing, rather than to a transit country, is a controversial one.

Mr Shorten said Labor would assess if people faced danger or persecution when deciding whether to send them home, adding it would "honour our obligations under the Refugee Convention".

He would not rule out returning asylum seekers to particular countries, saying the circumstances of each asylum seeker would be assessed.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ht-reports-20150727-gil671.html#ixzz3h59DkKsK

Jim Molan

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rSHf0YrxLw

My bolds.

 

[trainspotter]

Labor over the weekend decided that turn backs should be a policy option at their disposal but only to transit countries and not to country of origin.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/labor...ker-policy-20150726-giktj4.html#ixzz3h58klw3u

Today we have news on the above group and interestingly, the appearance of another policy retreat from Labor,

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ht-reports-20150727-gil671.html#ixzz3h59DkKsK

Jim Molan

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rSHf0YrxLw

My bolds.

echo echo echo .... what did Jim Molan have to say?

 

[Tisme]

Labor over the weekend decided that turn backs should be a policy option at their disposal but only to transit countries and not to country of origin.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/labor...ker-policy-20150726-giktj4.html#ixzz3h58klw3u

Today we have news on the above group and interestingly, the appearance of another policy retreat from Labor,



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ht-reports-20150727-gil671.html#ixzz3h59DkKsK

Jim Molan

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rSHf0YrxLw

My bolds.

Political propoganda. It's ridiculous to think that the Libs have some kind of special understanding of restricting migration with secret squirell sophisticated thought process. It's simply shut the gate policy ...fortress border policy that is at odds with Labor'sand Europe's current humanitarian policies.

Why is that guy talking to the ABC anyway... did he get permission from his party bosses?