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sptrawler said:
Wow does that mean that Tony was right?

The 'Turn back the Boats' policy has been introduced in SE Asia, and is going to be implemented in Southern Europe, to save lives.
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You do know that Thailand is being run by the Military right now right? There was a coup a couple years back and some general is in charge.

Doing things corrupt and violent people do isn't something to be proud of.

I saw a few days ago some poor fishing village in Indonesia saved a couple of boatloads of refugees... then dig into their own emergency fund to help feed and house them. But that's just insane right? Let's not be nice lest those murderous people smugglers beat us to it.


Again, I'm not proposing open door and welcome all policy. But let's not be over joy that we've "beaten" those refos.


It's pretty easy to beat the poor and the starving, especially when they're on an overcrowded leaky boat. I'd be really really off my seat impressed if our leadership could beat those multi-billion dollar corporations who's not paying their fair share in tax. Heck, don't need to beat them, just kinda get them to pay their legally required tax rate.

So on the one hand we got practically all corporations not paying their proper taxes... but we got bigger fish to fry.
 
luutzu said:
You do know that Thailand is being run by the Military right now right? There was a coup a couple years back and some general is in charge.

Doing things corrupt and violent people do isn't something to be proud of.

I saw a few days ago some poor fishing village in Indonesia saved a couple of boatloads of refugees... then dig into their own emergency fund to help feed and house them. But that's just insane right? Let's not be nice lest those murderous people smugglers beat us to it.


Again, I'm not proposing open door and welcome all policy. But let's not be over joy that we've "beaten" those refos.


It's pretty easy to beat the poor and the starving, especially when they're on an overcrowded leaky boat. I'd be really really off my seat impressed if our leadership could beat those multi-billion dollar corporations who's not paying their fair share in tax. Heck, don't need to beat them, just kinda get them to pay their legally required tax rate.

So on the one hand we got practically all corporations not paying their proper taxes... but we got bigger fish to fry.
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We apparently had 400,000 migrants last year, we are taking refugees.

How people can keep throwing up garbage, when you try to help people in an orderly fashion is beyond me.

If we go back to the boat people days, you end up with people without identifying papers in detention, but you don't want that.

Also you say, you don't want open borders.

Obviously, you want to just let people know you care, well that's nice.

I'll pose another question, that isn't nice.

Just say all people in the developed world sponsor a child in Africa, and those children go on to have four children each, who sponsors all them?
 
sptrawler said:
We apparently had 400,000 migrants last year, we are taking refugees.

How people can keep throwing up garbage, when you try to help people in an orderly fashion is beyond me.

If we go back to the boat people days, you end up with people without identifying papers in detention, but you don't want that.

Also you say, you don't want open borders.

Obviously, you want to just let people know you care, well that's nice.

I'll pose another question, that isn't nice.

Just say all people in the developed world sponsor a child in Africa, and those children go on to have four children each, who sponsors all them?
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Where's the 400,000 from?
That's all migrants I'm assuming - not 400,000 refugees right?

Department of Immigration Fact Sheets:

2012-2013: 12,012 refugees... or a total of 20,019 immigrants on Humanitarian Visas.

https://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm

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No body, not the poor citizens of rich countries, not the starving Africans, no one want to live on handouts. They don't need to be "sponsored" for life, and definitely do not wish their children to live on handouts either.

Most often they just need a temporary help and an opportunity so they can lift themselves up - and if we're able and willing to help then we should; if we couldn't then we don't. But don't go around thinking the poor and the refugees are after free lunches.

My parents gave my cousins in Vietnam a couple of thousands (which weren't small back then). And with that they bought some tools, some machinery and build up some sort of a living and managed to raise a family.For one of them my dad made a video, send over an old laptop and a used plotter and the guy learn from that and hire a couple of people after a year - bought his own house and move out of the wife's parents' attic.


It's a very slippery slope we're on when we think welfare are for cheats or lazy druggies, and all refugees are carrying Louis Vuitton coming over to cheat on our welfare and plan terrorists attacks.

Google the contributions the majority of refugees make to their adopted country. It's not what you think.
 
noco said:
If the Green/Labor socialist party, they would sent a water taxi to pick them up.
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That's what's continuing to happen on the Mediterranean with the usual consequences,

An international rescue fleet plucked almost 5,900 migrants from rickety boats making the perilous sea crossing from North Africa to Europe on Saturday and Sunday, the Italian coastguard said.
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The tide of migrants and refugees risking the often deadly sea crossing to reach Europe from Africa is on the rise this year and the UN refugee agency estimates more than 1,800 have drowned.

About 800 perished in a single shipwreck in April.
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During the first five months of the year there were 46,500 sea arrivals into Italy, a 12 per cent increase on the same period last year, the office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees said.

The Italian government projects 200,000 in all will come this year, up from 170,000 in 2014.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...t-underway-to-rescue-10-migrant-boats/6528606
 
I was walking through the city the other day and noticed a Middle Eastern book store, so out of curiosity I went on in.
A clerk stopped me and asked if he could help me (I imagine I didn't look like the normal client).
I then asked him if they had a copy of the Australian Immigration Policy Book regarding illegal immigrants.
The clerk said, “F**k off!! Get out and stay out !”
I said, “Yes, yes, that's the one!! Do you have that in paperback?”

:D
 
Boggo said:
I was walking through the city the other day and noticed a Middle Eastern book store, so out of curiosity I went on in.
A clerk stopped me and asked if he could help me (I imagine I didn't look like the normal client).
I then asked him if they had a copy of the Australian Immigration Policy Book regarding illegal immigrants.
The clerk said, “F**k off!! Get out and stay out !”
I said, “Yes, yes, that's the one!! Do you have that in paperback?”

:D
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You're now on both the AFP and ASIO's list as "white suspect entering Islamic bookstore looking to convert".
 
In the bombing raid carried out on his own airfield by Lt Milo Minderbinder(mess officer) in a contract he signed with the Germans, Nately was killed. Milo faced courts martial, he was forced to open his books; Revealing the huge profit M&M Enterprises made on the deal, 'and everyone had a share,' Milo was promoted to Lieutenant Colonel.
The true nature of absurdism is its truth. Thank-you Joe Heller.

'Abbott' ..."we had to pay the people smuggling criminals to ruin their business model"

exclusive to all media outlets....

Ethics classes anyone? certainly not if Fred Nile, or the christian right gets their way
 
drsmith said:
Another month with no boats.

That's 10 months in a row now.
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Brilliant, the last boat only cost Tony $30000 to turn around, not counting the cost of the patrol boat and crew to deliver the suitcase full of greenbacks.

I wonder how long it will take the smugglers to adapt to this latest business model.? 30K per fortnight for a 10 day boat trip out and back, they should probably split it with the passengers...nice little earner.
 
So_Cynical said:
Brilliant, the last boat only cost Tony $30000 to turn around, not counting the cost of the patrol boat and crew to deliver the suitcase full of greenbacks.
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What would have been the cost if they allowed them onshore? Probably greater than 100 times more.
 
bellenuit said:
What would have been the cost if they allowed them onshore? Probably greater than 100 times more.
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No Doubt the cheaper option...still it is what it is.

A suitcase full of money changed hands on the high seas, is Tony any better than the pirates and smugglers?
 
So_Cynical said:
Brilliant, the last boat only cost Tony $30000 to turn around, not counting the cost of the patrol boat and crew to deliver the suitcase full of greenbacks.

I wonder how long it will take the smugglers to adapt to this latest business model.? 30K per fortnight for a 10 day boat trip out and back, they should probably split it with the passengers...nice little earner.
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Do you have any proof or it it say so from the people smugglers?.......Maybe SHY put them up to it to try and embarrass Tony Abbott....I would not put it past her particularly the way Gillian Trigg has carried on.

If it is true what you claim, then their must be some accountability for the money expended.

Some people might finish up with egg on their faces.
 
noco said:
Do you have any proof or it it say so from the people smugglers?.......Maybe SHY put them up to it to try and embarrass Tony Abbott....I would not put it past her particularly the way Gillian Trigg has carried on.

If it is true what you claim, then their must be some accountability for the money expended.

Some people might finish up with egg on their faces.
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I find it difficult to believe, our patrol boats are running around with ransom money, just in case they run into people smugglers. Sounds a bit suss to me.:rolleyes:

Especially when we haven't used up, all the bright orange asylum seeker rescue crafts.:D
 
sptrawler said:
I find it difficult to believe, our patrol boats are running around with ransom money, just in case they run into people smugglers. Sounds a bit suss to me.:rolleyes:

Especially when we haven't used up, all the bright orange asylum seeker rescue crafts.:D
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Me thinks somebody is telling "PORKIES".
 
noco said:
If it is true what you claim, then their must be some accountability for the money expended.
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What planet do you come from Noco?

Have you heard of a "slush fund", Tony Abbott knows how to operate one, just ask Pauline Hanson.

Have you heard of FIFA?
 
sptrawler said:
I find it difficult to believe, our patrol boats are running around with ransom money, just in case they run into people smugglers. Sounds a bit suss to me.:rolleyes:
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You have forgot the golden rule of international diplomacy - "money speaks all languages", you don't even need the expense of an interpreter.
 

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