Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[drsmith]

Where is that Greens comrade Richard Marles the shadow Minister for Immigration?.. ....He seems to have gone into smoke.

Perhaps he's decided that exile in one of 34 bright orange lifeboats is the best place to be.

 

[noco]

Ha comrade Kevvie......What happened to the war with Indonesia over stopping the boats?

I think SBY must have chickened out........or then again, perhaps he may be sending Tony a thank you card.


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...sun/comments/wheres_rudds_war_with_indonesia/

 

[drsmith]

A deal with Cambodia to resettle asylum seekers is moving closer.

"It's not about whether they are poor, it’s about whether they can be safe," Mr Morrison said. "That’s the issue. The [refugee] convention was not designed as an economic advancement program."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...ylum-seekers-moves-closer-20140423-zqyar.html

 

[drsmith]

17 weeks now without a boat and in the past week, another 10 IMA's were voluntarily returned to their country of origin after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre—all to Iran. This takes that total now to 213 since the commencement of OSB.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/channels/operational-updates/releases

Another week without a boat according to the following media report taking the total now to 18 weeks without a successful people smuggling operation to Australia.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ts-says-morrison/story-fn9hm1gu-1226896781374

According to the above, another 7 IMA's were voluntarily returned to their country of origin after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre. This takes that total to 220 since the commencement of OSB.

The above information is yet to make the customs site.

 

[noco]

Another week without a boat according to the following media report taking the total now to 18 weeks without a successful people smuggling operation to Australia.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ts-says-morrison/story-fn9hm1gu-1226896781374

According to the above, another 7 IMA's were voluntarily returned to their country of origin after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre. This takes that total to 220 since the commencement of OSB.

The above information is yet to make the customs site.

Richard Marles on the Bolt Report states it was Labor's PNG policy that stopped 90% of the boats....It was the Coalition who fought for months to persuade Labor into off shore prossessing on Manus and Narua and in the last minute before the 2013 election, Rudd in his wisdom, introduced it to capture some votes to save the furniture and what a mess he made of that like everything else he touched.....It was Richard Marles who stated then, that the Coalition would never stop the boats.

 

[drsmith]

Cambodia agrees 'in principle' to resettle asylum seekers bound for Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ekers-bound-for-australia-20140430-zr1jz.html

 

[Julia]

Poll: Do you agree with the idea to send asylum seekers held by Australia on Nauru to Cambodia for resettlement?

Yes

22%
No
78%

From the SMH. I'm included in the 78%. Cambodia has a very poor human rights record and presumably is focusing on the money they will receive from the Australian government, which may not go towards properly looking after refugees.

I suppose it depends on whether one considers this all part of the intentional deterrent factor, rather than a genuine attempt to provide a reasonable existence for genuine refugees.
If that's the motivation, then - like Manus and Nauru - it will probably work.

 

[drsmith]

I'm included in the 78%.

We had differing views on whether the Libs should have supported Labor's Malaysia solution too.

Intentional deterrent, recognises that the vast majority are not genuine refugees (Bob Carr) and will encourage voluntary returns to country of origin.

All positives in dealing with this backlog in my view.

 

[SirRumpole]

I suppose it depends on whether one considers this all part of the intentional deterrent factor, rather than a genuine attempt to provide a reasonable existence for genuine refugees.

There is no doubt in my mind that the idea of sending refugees to Cambodia was simply to scare the $..t out of them so they wouldn't come here in the first place, rather than it being a safe place to send them to.

Those concerned about Cambodia's human rights record might consider that PNG's isn't all that great either, as was recently seen with the Iranian's death.

 

[noco]

There is no doubt in my mind that the idea of sending refugees to Cambodia was simply to scare the $..t out of them so they wouldn't come here in the first place, rather than it being a safe place to send them to.

Those concerned about Cambodia's human rights record might consider that PNG's isn't all that great either, as was recently seen with the Iranian's death.

I doubt very much if you will ever see another riot on Manus......the refugees have learn 't their lesson not to mess with the locals.

As far as settling in PNG there would no chance of them setting up their mosques, praying in the streets of having their loud speakers wailing at 5 in the morning.

 

[SirRumpole]

I doubt very much if you will ever see another riot on Manus......the refugees have learn 't their lesson not mess with the locals.

Did the refugees mess with the locals, or did the locals mess with the refugees ?

 

[noco]

Did the refugees mess with the locals, or did the locals mess with the refugees ?

From what I understand is the minority security guards contingent were out numbered and would not have been able to control the intensity of the riot, hence they called in local reinforcements.

I know from experience, some of the locals have little consideration for the preservation of life.....In many cases they will kill each other as pay back for some trivial happening.....I believe the Iranian who was killed just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time....It was not premeditated.

 

[drsmith]

Another week without a boat taking the total to 19 weeks without a successful people smuggling operation to Australia.

Another 7 IMA's were voluntarily returned to their country of origin after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre. This takes that total to 227 since the commencement of OSB.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/channels/operational-updates/releases/operational-update-2-may

 

[drsmith]

The following media report of a boat from late March came to nothing.

A BOAT carrying about 50 asylum-seekers is heading for Christmas Island in a renewed test of Australia’s border crackdown, Indonesian police believe.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...crackdown-police/story-fn9hm1gu-1226865012843

Today we have another but with Tony Abbott declining an offer from his Indonesian counterpart to attend a conference in Bali next week, it might have more substance.

The West Australian newspaper has reported that Australia's border protection authorities are in the process of tracking down an asylum seeker boat seen in waters between Java and Ashmore Reef.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-susilo-bambang-yudhoyono-20140502-zr3kz.html

ABC,

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has abandoned a planned trip to Indonesia due to an "on-water operation" which Australian Government sources believe has the potential to cause "embarrassment" to president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

Mr Yudhoyono had invited Mr Abbott to attend the Open Government Partnership Conference in Bali next week and plans were in place to make it happen.

But the trip has been cancelled because of a current asylum seeker operation.

Consistent with policy under Operation Sovereign Borders, the Government will not comment on details of the "on-water operation", but the West Australian newspaper has been reporting that a Border Protection Command boat had spotted and was planning to intercept a boat in waters between Java and Ashmore Reef.

I'd suggest one of those 34 bright orange lifeboats is about to be called into service.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-02/abbott-cancels-bali-trip-after-on-water-incident/5427384

 

[Ferret]

Scott Morrison has done a fine job as immigration minister. Can we please have him as prime minister.

 

[drsmith]

Another fresh attempt, this time from Sri-Lanka. They didn't get very far.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/05/02/23/20/sri-lanka-arrests-aust-bound-boat-people

 

[drsmith]

Mum's the word from Indonesia too despite another round of futile hyperventilation from Labor and the Greens.

Finance Minister Mathias Cormann is providing a different explanation saying Mr Abbott's cancelled visit to Bali falls close to the budget, which is due to be delivered in just over a week's time.

The date the budget is handed down is fixed every year to the second Tuesday in May.

Mr Yudhoyono's spokesman Teku Faizasyah says the Indonesian government is "well aware" of the Australian Government's upcoming budget and will not comment on whether or not an asylum seeker operation is taking place.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-...explain-reasons-behind-cancelled-trip/5428278

 

[banco]

Mum's the word from Indonesia too despite another round of futile hyperventilation from Labor and the Greens.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-...explain-reasons-behind-cancelled-trip/5428278

LOL so they were unaware that the budget was going to be handed down on that date. ****ing liars and not very good ones.

 

[drsmith]

LOL so they were unaware that the budget was going to be handed down on that date. ****ing liars and not very good ones.

Sour grapes won't help.

The success of this government's border protection policies after the mess it was left by Labor speaks for itself.

 

[drsmith]

Today we have another but with Tony Abbott declining an offer from his Indonesian counterpart to attend a conference in Bali next week, it might have more substance.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-susilo-bambang-yudhoyono-20140502-zr3kz.html

I'd suggest one of those 34 bright orange lifeboats is about to be called into service.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-02/abbott-cancels-bali-trip-after-on-water-incident/5427384

As it turned out, a bright orange lifeboat wasn't required and it seems crew and passengers were sent back in their own boat with a few extras.

The asylum seeker boat that allegedly deterred Tony Abbott from meeting Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono this week has been found in Indonesia after the Australian navy reportedly put three extra people on board and then turned it back.

People on board the wooden boat have told authorities in Indonesia that the Australian navy loaded two Albanians and one Indonesian onto the boat before sending it back to a remote island in eastern Indonesia.

There is no further information about the extra passengers, but there is speculation that they may be the two asylum seekers who were taken to Christmas Island for “urgent medical treatment” after another tow-back operation in February. The third may be an Indonesian crew member.

If the two were medically treated on Australian soil then loaded onto the next available boat to be pushed back to Indonesia, it would represent a controversial new turn in Australia’s tow-back policy.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...oading-three-extra-people-20140506-zr55k.html

The Fairfax press though is still having a lot of trouble coming to terms with the success of this government's border protection policies. Despite the above, the following this morning is the top story on the SMH's online front page.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-t...-big-chill-with-indonesia-20140505-zr4zy.html