Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[Julia]

When bleating on about the rights of asylum seekers, the Greens and Labor should pause to consider that many, many Australians, a large proportion of whom have paid into the tax system, are unable to access Legal Aid.

The Left wants to take care of people who find their way here other than through official channels, but couldn't care less about the genuinely disadvantaged Australians.

 

[drsmith]

When bleating on about the rights of asylum seekers, the Greens and Labor should pause to consider that many, many Australians, a large proportion of whom have paid into the tax system, are unable to access Legal Aid.

The Left wants to take care of people who find their way here other than through official channels, but couldn't care less about the genuinely disadvantaged Australians.

:iagree:

Useless Labor Party.

 

[Calliope]

So, they decide to leave their country, pay people smugglers thousands of $$$, and are now stuck in Indonesia.

Why don't they just stay there and raise their family there?

This might give you a clue.

. A Department of Immigration survey in 2011 confirmed that 85 per cent of refugees were on social security payments even after five years here – including 94 per cent of all Afghan refugees.

 

[drsmith]

After a lot of tooing and froing, it seems that agreement on resettlement has finally been reached with PNG.

Papua New Guinea will now resettle all asylum seekers who are found to be refugees and the Australian Federal Police will assist the investigation into the death of asylum seeker Reza Barati if requested, it was announced on Thursday.

The announcement comes only weeks after Prime Minister Peter O'Neill made plain that PNG would only resettle "some" of those whose refugee claims are recognised, insisting other countries in the region should "carry the same burden as we do".

Now all asylum seekers who are found to be refugees will be resettled in PNG, with the first group of refugees moving into temporary accommodation as early as June, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison said.

"They will then move into a resettlement phase and we have been building transitionary accommodation at east Lorengau on Manus Island now for some months," Mr Morrison told Sky News on Thursday afternoon.

Those who are not found to be refugees will either be sent back to their country of origin, or will be resettled in another country, he said. But not one asylum seeker will be resettled in Australia.

It will be interesting to see how many achieve refugee status. Not many I suspect.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ugees-and-afp-offers-help-20140403-zqqcq.html

Meanwhile, the UN may not like it but they have acknowledged the success of the current government's policies,

A UNITED Nations expert on people smuggling and human trafficking says Canberra's tough but "questionable" policy on dealing with asylum seekers arriving by boat has successfully destroyed the current migrant smuggling model into Australia.

Sebastian Baumeister, from the UN's Office on Drugs and Crime, says the government has halted the boats heading to Australia, but questions remain over the whereabouts of thousands of asylum seekers stranded in Asia.

"With the changes in Australian migration asylum policies, there's now been a significant drop of arrivals by boat to Australia," Mr Baumeister told AAP.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...by-abbott-policy/story-fni0xqll-1226873799399

 

[drsmith]

Customs today has been a little tardy with this week's OSB update.

The Australian reported a boat leaving Indonesia last week but nothing further in the media since.

Nothing from Shaz on Xmas Island (via Michael Smith) either.

 

[noco]

After a lot of tooing and froing, it seems that agreement on resettlement has finally been reached with PNG.



It will be interesting to see how many achieve refugee status. Not many I suspect.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ugees-and-afp-offers-help-20140403-zqqcq.html

Meanwhile, the UN may not like it but they have acknowledged the success of the current government's policies,



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...by-abbott-policy/story-fni0xqll-1226873799399

Doc, having visited PNG 2 or 3 times per year over some 18 years, I can tell you now that my prediction is those refugees will want to go back to their own country of origin within 12 months or less.

It is most unlikely they will meld into the PNG community.....they will not dare go out at night and they would have to exercise vigilance during the day......Work will be hard to come by so I would say they will be still living on Australian social security for the entire period of their stay......more cost to the Australian tax payer.

 

[drsmith]

Doc, having visited PNG 2 or 3 times per year over some 18 years, I can tell you now that my prediction is those refugees will want to go back to their own country of origin within 12 months or less.

That I suspect is what they're being encouraged to do and THE total that have returned to country of origin from an offshore processing centre since the commencement of OSB is now 199.

Last Friday's OSB update is now published. The number of weeks without a boat is now 15.

The reporting period is from 9.00am 28 March 2014 to 9.00am 4 April 2014.

During this reporting period there were no illegal maritime arrivals transferred to Australian Immigration authorities.

Twenty illegal maritime arrivals were transferred to offshore processing centres—all to Nauru.

One illegal maritime arrival transferee returned voluntarily to Lebanon after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre.

Fourteen illegal maritime arrival detainees were voluntarily removed—11 to Iran, one to Lebanon, one to Vietnam and one to Iraq.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/chan...ign-borders-joint-agency-task-force-update-14

 

[noco]

That I suspect is what they're being encouraged to do and THE total that have returned to country of origin from an offshore processing centre since the commencement of OSB is now 199.

Last Friday's OSB update is now published. The number of weeks without a boat is now 15.



http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/chan...ign-borders-joint-agency-task-force-update-14

Yes the detainees are being whittled downed one by one...less cost burden to the Australian tax payer.

I repeat what I said on previous threads and posts, Julia Gillard and the Greens were hell bent on wrecking the economy of Australia and by accepting 50,000 asylum seekers thus adding $11 billion to that burden along with many other bad ideas.....This is the overall ideology of socialism (communism)............this is just one of many ways of how it works.

 

[SirRumpole]

Looks like we have to keep them even if they are crims

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-...nment-decision-on-asylum-seeker-visas/5378510

The Federal Court has quashed a government decision to refuse protection visas to a group of refugees who were convicted of offences while in detention.

In 2011, under the Labor government, a new clause was added to the character test allowing the government to refuse a protection visa to a refugee if they were convicted of a crime in detention.

The Federal Court has been considering the cases of five people from Afghanistan and Iraq found to be refugees.

One was convicted after spitting on a Serco officer and four others were convicted after damaging Commonwealth property while being held in a Darwin immigration detention centre.

Despite being recognised as refugees, they were all denied protection visas by the Labor government under the clause.

At the time, the government argued the decision would send a message to other asylum seekers but the Federal Court has found the refugees were denied natural justice.

The court has quashed the decision, arguing it fails to take into account Australia's obligations regarding indefinite detention.

 

[drsmith]

Looks like we have to keep them even if they are crims

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-...nment-decision-on-asylum-seeker-visas/5378510

Labor's incompetence knows no bounds when it comes to border protection.

 

[SirRumpole]

Labor's incompetence knows no bounds when it comes to border protection.

I thought you would say that, but Labor did make an effort to get rid of them

Despite being recognised as refugees, they were all denied protection visas by the Labor government under the clause.

 

[drsmith]

I thought you would say that, but Labor did make an effort to get rid of them

That unfortunately doesn't match particularly well with the results of Labor's efforts.

 

[drsmith]

Today's weekly update is pleasingly monotonous.

No boats.

 

[noco]

I thought you would say that, but Labor did make an effort to get rid of them

Yes Labor got rid of 1100 ........death by drowning.

 

[drsmith]

The following outlines the scale of the panic within Labor on this issue as last year's election approached.

In the dying days of her prime ministership, Ms Gillard made a last ditch bid to salvage Labor's border protection policies, with an approach to the Indonesian government to accept failed Iranian asylum seekers.

Australia would fly the Iranians back to Jakarta for their eventual repatriation to their homeland.

The proposal, hatched in June last year, was in response to Iran's refusal to accept returnees direct from Australia. It was met with scepticism by Mr Carr, given the time frame to negotiate a deal.

Even so, he was charged with letting the Indonesians know Ms Gillard would raise it directly with the country's President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, at a meeting scheduled for July 5.

By the time Mr Carr was in Jakarta to spruik the plan, Mr Rudd was prime minister. And Indonesia's Foreign Minister, Marty Natalegawa, rejected the idea of accepting planeloads of aggrieved Iranians rejected by Australia.

“Marty makes the point, an altogether reasonable one, that Indonesia can't be seen to be doing anything like this at the request of another country,” Mr Carr writes.

There was one victory though. Indonesia agreed to terminate its visa-on-arrival program for Iranians landing at Jakarta airport, a people-smuggling hub.

Mr Carr later hails Mr Rudd's PNG solution as a “masterstroke”.

Having put the sugar on the table, it was fanciful to expect Indonesia to take them back by plane. As for Kevin Rudd's half hatched so-called masterstroke, it was only funded till January this year and it remains to be seen how many are actually resettled in PNG.

The true masterstroke as the numbers have shown has been turning back the boats and in particular, the IMA's with those bright orange lifeboats. Turning back the boats is the policy element Labor railed against the most.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...olicies-on-asylum-seekers-20140409-36dmd.html

Meanwhile, at a protest against the current government's asylum policies, it's all smiles for the camera.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2014/04/how-dare-the-government-stop-people-dying-at-sea.html

 

[IFocus]

These guys better not be political excuses just doesn't seem quite right to me that so many could have gotten it so wrong.


Navy chief sacks commanding officer involved in Indonesian incursions

One officer stripped of command and another sanctioned in announcement made same day Guardian Australia revelations cast doubt on investigation's findings

The chief of the Australian navy has sacked a senior commanding officer involved in one of the incursions into Indonesian waters.

Vice Admiral Ray Griggs announced on Thursday that one commanding officer would be removed from command and another would be administratively sanctioned in relation to a series of incursions into Indonesian waters that occurred in December and January.

“Each of the commanding officers conducted these activities with the best of intent; however, I expect nothing but the highest standards of those in command,” Griggs said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ing-officer-involved-in-indonesian-incursions

 

[drsmith]

These guys better not be political excuses just doesn't seem quite right to me that so many could have gotten it so wrong.

Navy chief sacks commanding officer involved in Indonesian incursions

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ing-officer-involved-in-indonesian-incursions

How many boats have we had in the past 16-weeks ?

How many does that compare to under Labor during the previous 12-month corresponding period ?

The parrot isn't now only plucked, It's just dropped off the perch.

 

[noco]

The silence form the comrades of the Greens is deafening.

They are not happy with the coalitions success......something comrades of the Greens said could not be done.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...n-by-80-per-cent/story-fn59niix-1226888420960

 

[drsmith]

The silence form the comrades of the Greens is deafening.

And whoever maintains the ABC's OSB log-of-boat-arrivals-and-other-asylum-seeker-incidents seems to have gone on leave.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-25/log-of-boat-arrivals-and-other-asylum-seeker-incidents/5014496

Very quiet indeed.

17 weeks now without a boat and in the past week, another 10 IMA's were voluntarily returned to their country of origin after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre—all to Iran. This takes that total now to 213 since the commencement of OSB.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/channels/operational-updates/releases

 

[noco]

And whoever maintains the ABC's OSB log-of-boat-arrivals-and-other-asylum-seeker-incidents seems to have gone on leave.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-25/log-of-boat-arrivals-and-other-asylum-seeker-incidents/5014496

Very quiet indeed.

17 weeks now without a boat and in the past week, another 10 IMA's were voluntarily returned to their country of origin after electing to go home from an offshore processing centre””all to Iran. This takes that total now to 213 since the commencement of OSB.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/channels/operational-updates/releases

Where is that Greens comrade Richard Marles the shadow Minister for Immigration?.. ....He seems to have gone into smoke.