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Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns. (Jay Godwin via Alamy)

Ken Burns on His Most Important Film


The documentarian takes on the U.S. and the Holocaust, and weighs in on what that dark period tells us about the chasm between our ideals and our reality.

By The Free Press

January 29, 2023

Ken Burns is the most famous documentary filmmaker in America. He has made 35 films over the past five decades on subjects like the Civil War, Vietnam, Jefferson, Franklin, the Roosevelts, the Statue of Liberty, baseball, jazz, Muhammad Ali, and many more.

He said of his most recent film, The U.S. and the Holocaust: “I will never work on a film more important than this one.”
No matter how many movies you’ve seen or books you’ve read about the Holocaust, Burns’ new film, which focuses on the U.S.’s response to the worst genocide in human history—what we did, and didn’t do—is bound to both surprise and horrify you.
In honor of Holocaust Remembrance Day, I spoke to Burns about why a filmmaker of American history takes on the Holocaust and what this dark period tells us about the chasm between our ideals and our reality. Below are some excerpts from our discussion, edited for length and clarity.

I went into this conversation to talk about FDR, the antisemitism inside the State Department, eugenics, immigration quotas, Charles Lindbergh, Father Coughlin, and more. What I didn’t expect was the intense exchange we had about the responsibilities of writing history, about the uses and misuses of the Holocaust as a political metaphor, and about the way Burns’ own worldview colors his work and how mine colors the way I see a film like this one.

 
It sounds as though the U.S is starting to ramp up the rhetoric, I wonder if the restrictions on China's access to high level chip technology, is bringing things to a head?

A top US general has reportedly warned his colleagues about the likelihood of a major military showdown with China in the coming two years.

Mike Minihan, a four-star Air Force general and head of the of the US Air Mobility Command (AMC), has issued the most dramatic forecast yet by a senior US military officer, predicting the two superpowers could come to blows in 2025.

He made the unsettling call in a memo addressed to all air wing commanders and and other Air Force personnel under his command, warning that a series of circumstances could embolden Chinese President Xi Jinping to make a move against Taiwan, triggering a heated conflict.

"I hope I am wrong. My gut tells me we will fight in 2025," he wrote.
 
Fetterman rumoured to be brain dead; that'll be interesting if true.

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Yes that was and still is the official story, but social media is still awash with the rumour.

I hope he is okay, but....

Smoke.
Fire?

Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
 
Yes that was and still is the official story, but social media is still awash with the rumour.
Indeed wayne. Social media is always awash with rumours. That is the point of just making up creative stuff that stirs the juices of people who want to believe it.

Of course if the default position is that the official story can't be trusted and that MSM doesn't find the truth then naturally Facebook and myriad feeds into it will be believed.
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Check out Cunk on Earth Wayne. I have it a heads up on teh TV thread. I mention it again because... just check it out and see how social media works.
 
Indeed wayne. Social media is always awash with rumours. That is the point of just making up creative stuff that stirs the juices of people who want to believe it.

Of course if the default position is that the official story can't be trusted and that MSM doesn't find the truth then naturally Facebook and myriad feeds into it will be believed.
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Check out Cunk on Earth Wayne. I have it a heads up on teh TV thread. I mention it again because... just check it out and see how social media works.
Oh for sure! It could be total bs.

Russia collusion and all that was the same deal, that's why I was careful to point out it is a rumour at this point. It is intriguing considering his medical history though.
 
Fox commentator Tucker Carlson did his own edit of the Jan 6th footage at the Capitol to "prove" it wasn't an insurrection but just "mostly peaceful chaos" . He somehow managed to overlook the deaths of 9 people on and after the day as result of the "peaceful chaos"

The family of police officer Brian Sicknick have torn a new one on Fox News and Tucker Carlson. Didn't leave anything behind.

‘Sleaze-slinging’ Fox News denounced by family of January 6 officer who died

Condemnation of ‘so-called news network’ comes after Tucker Carlson shares footage courtesy of Kevin McCarthy

Martin Pengelly in New York

@MartinPengelly
Tue 7 Mar 2023 15.29 ESTFirst published on Tue 7 Mar 2023 10.53 EST


The family of Brian Sicknick, the US Capitol police officer who died the day after the January 6 attack on Congress, condemned Tucker Carlson and Fox News as “unscrupulous and outright sleazy”, after the primetime host made first use of security footage from the riot bestowed by Kevin McCarthy, the Republican House speaker.
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A statement on Tuesday said: “The Sicknick family is outraged at the ongoing attack on our family by the unscrupulous and outright sleazy so-called news network of Fox News.”

Fox and Carlson, the family said, “will do the bidding of [Donald] Trump or any of his sycophant followers, no matter what damage is done to the families of the fallen, the officers who put their lives on the line and all who suffered on January 6, due to the lie started by Trump and spread by sleaze-slinging outlets like Fox”.

 
Fox commentator Tucker Carlson did his own edit of the Jan 6th footage at the Capitol to "prove" it wasn't an insurrection but just "mostly peaceful chaos" . He somehow managed to overlook the deaths of 9 people on and after the day as result of the "peaceful chaos"

The family of police officer Brian Sicknick have torn a new one on Fox News and Tucker Carlson. Didn't leave anything behind.

‘Sleaze-slinging’ Fox News denounced by family of January 6 officer who died

Condemnation of ‘so-called news network’ comes after Tucker Carlson shares footage courtesy of Kevin McCarthy

Martin Pengelly in New York

@MartinPengelly
Tue 7 Mar 2023 15.29 ESTFirst published on Tue 7 Mar 2023 10.53 EST


The family of Brian Sicknick, the US Capitol police officer who died the day after the January 6 attack on Congress, condemned Tucker Carlson and Fox News as “unscrupulous and outright sleazy”, after the primetime host made first use of security footage from the riot bestowed by Kevin McCarthy, the Republican House speaker.
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A statement on Tuesday said: “The Sicknick family is outraged at the ongoing attack on our family by the unscrupulous and outright sleazy so-called news network of Fox News.”

Fox and Carlson, the family said, “will do the bidding of [Donald] Trump or any of his sycophant followers, no matter what damage is done to the families of the fallen, the officers who put their lives on the line and all who suffered on January 6, due to the lie started by Trump and spread by sleaze-slinging outlets like Fox”.

A medical examiner said he died of natural causes but his name remains linked to January 6.

Thats all you need out of that mess of an article.

Jan 6 was real. Most of the idiots that went in had to plea bargain for a reduced sentence. But something else was definitely going on with that whole mess.
 
A medical examiner said he died of natural causes but his name remains linked to January 6.

Thats all you need out of that mess of an article.

Jan 6 was real. Most of the idiots that went in had to plea bargain for a reduced sentence. But something else was definitely going on with that whole mess.
Really ? Something else going on ? WTF .. Brian Sicknick was hit with a fire extinguisher in the "light hearted chaos" of Trumps goons wrecking havoc in the Capitol. Small detail. Had 2 strokes the next day and died.

But you think it's a mess of an article ? Fine mate. Go right ahead

You'll believe whatever you want moXjo . Trump still says he wuz robbed. Millions of people still parrot that line.

Black is White. War is Peace. "Truth" is whatever comes out of the SunGod's gob. :rolleyes:
 
Really ? Something else going on ? WTF .. Brian Sicknick was hit with a fire extinguisher in the "light hearted chaos" of Trumps goons wrecking havoc in the Capitol. Small detail. Had 2 strokes the next day and died.

But you think it's a mess of an article ? Fine mate. Go right ahead

You'll believe whatever you want moXjo . Trump still says he wuz robbed. Millions of people still parrot that line.

Black is White. War is Peace. "Truth" is whatever comes out of the SunGod's gob. :rolleyes:
Your track record so far concerning Trump stories that turned out to be lies has been pretty atrocious. Guardian promoted a lot of the rubbish that's getting exposed now.

Sicknick wasn't killed on Jan 6.
 
Really ? Something else going on ? WTF .. Brian Sicknick was hit with a fire extinguisher in the "light hearted chaos" of Trumps goons wrecking havoc in the Capitol. Small detail. Had 2 strokes the next day and died.

But you think it's a mess of an article ? Fine mate. Go right ahead

You'll believe whatever you want moXjo . Trump still says he wuz robbed. Millions of people still parrot that line.

Black is White. War is Peace. "Truth" is whatever comes out of the SunGod's gob. :rolleyes:
The problem is, no one has been able to provide anything that backs up the story that Sicknick was ever hit with a Fire extinguisher.
The NY Post was one of the first to initiate the story.
Dramatic new video shows the moment a US Capitol rioter hit an officer in the head with a fire extinguisher during Wednesday’s chaotic siege.

The footage obtained by Storyful from Wednesday’s siege shows droves of violent demonstrators storming past a barricade as US Capitol Police desperately try to keep them corralled on the west side of the building at about 2:30 p.m.

“They broke through, it’s on!” one man is heard yelling as the chaotic clip begins.

Moments later, a rioter tosses the fire extinguisher toward a group of officers below, striking one on the helmet. It’s unclear if the cop who was plunked was Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, 42. He died at a hospital Thursday after being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher during the melee, two law enforcement sources told the Associated Press.
Unfortunately, there is nothing to identify that Sicknick was the person hit with the fire extinguisher, indeed footage shows him without riot gear spending most of his time in the capitol building.
The coroners report did not see any evidence of blunt force Trauma.
There is long article fromYahoo News reporter who had originally followed the NY Times lead story about Sicknick being killed.
He goes through the various reports and highlights the lack of evidence supporting the Sicknic was killed by rioters on Jan 6th.
It does not condone the behaviour of right wing dorks, but it does demand that before people parrot news stories , facts and backup material need to be established first.
What it does to is provide some comfort to Trump that allows both him and his supporters to keep pushing the "we wuz robbed" line.
They can point out how the MSM make things up, and do not follow up with any facts, kinda similar to Trump.
MSM materially failed in this story, and people who keep pushing the line that Sicknic was killed as a result of getting hit with a fire extinguisher give the MSM comfort to keep producing fake news as trump so famously said.
The problem was, in this case, he was correct.
mick
 
There you are. Snopes agrees with you all.


Sort of fascinating really. The driving force behind this riot was the barrage of election lies made up by Trump to gee up his base and the millions of people who now parrot anything he says - because he says it. As far as I can tell the reality of Trumps repeated deliberate lying to undermine the electoral system in the US and set the stage for the Jan 6th events is still not acknowledged.

If it was he would not be in a position to even try and run for President again.

Anyway at least one of the lawyers he used to present his lies have had to fess up.

Donald Trump's former lawyer Jenna Ellis censured over claims 2020 election was 'fraudulent'

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Jenna Ellis has been formally censured by a judge after admitting she made repeated misstatements about the 2020 US election. (AP Photo: Jacquelyn Martin)
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A high-profile member of former US president Donald Trump's legal team that challenged his 2020 election loss, agreed to be censured by a Colorado court after admitting to making false claims about voter fraud.

Key points:​

  • Lawyer Jenna Ellis acknowledges making 10 "misrepresentations" about the 2020 election
  • Ms Ellis was regularly identified as a member of Mr Trump's post-election legal team
  • A group that files ethics complaints says a public censure is inadequate punishment

Under an agreement with Colorado attorney disciplinary officials released on Wednesday, lawyer Jenna Ellis acknowledged that she made 10 "misrepresentations" on television and Twitter about the 2020 election .
The misrepresentations included saying Mr Trump's legal team could "prove" the election was stolen and that the results were "fraudulent," according to the the state's presiding disciplinary judge, Bryon Large.
Ms Ellis and state officials agreed that the statements violated a Colorado rule against attorneys engaging in conduct "involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation", the opinion by Judge Large said.

 
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