Resisting Climate Hysteria

[luutzu]

Al Gore's 10 year predictions in 2006 about Global Warming has come back to bite him......He now has egg on his face.


http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01...g-point-refuses-to-answer-enters-suv-in-snow/

Coleman’s Key Climate Facts:

• 97% of scientists do NOT agree that the science of climate change is settled. Not by a long shot. That oft-quoted statistic was totally fabricated as is the claim that the tiny fraction of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as a result of mankind’s use of fossil fuels to power our wonderful civilization of smart phones, heating and air conditioning and swift and safe transportation is in some magical way destroying our climate. The 97% claim has been disproved over and over again, but Gore, government and media continue to issue horrible scare claims.

• The oceans are not going to flood our cities.
• Massive killer storms are not going to sweep the Earth.
• Heat waves are not going kill millions.
• Our crops are not going to fail.
• (More on the latest climate science here:

The going orange bits is the Earth's way of welcoming Sun Emperor Trump.

 

[explod]

Things are really starting to burn up now.

Piles of dead turtle hatchlings are lining Queensland's famous Mon Repos beach amid a heatwave which has pushed the sand's temperature to a record 75 degrees Celsius.

While the majority of hatchlings break free from their nests at night when the sand is cooler, those escaping in the day face overheating.

"They can't sweat, they can't pant, so they've got no mechanism for cooling," Department of Environment and Heritage Protection chief scientist Dr Col Limpus said.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...s-hurting-in-heatwave-qld/8230036?pfmredir=sm

 

[noco]

Things are really starting to burn up now.



http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...s-hurting-in-heatwave-qld/8230036?pfmredir=sm

Perhaps you should listen and read the link below.....I don't think you should believe what is in your link put out by the ABC...The ABC are pro Global Warming.....Hatchlings only make to water at night when the sand is cooler......Only one in 1000 hatchlings survive to adulthood.....the link below is most interesting.

http://www.seeturtles.org/baby-turtles/

 

[noco]

Perhaps you should listen and read the link below.....I don't think you should believe what is in your link put out by the ABC...The ABC are pro Global Warming.....Hatchlings only make to water at night when the sand is cooler......Only one in 1000 hatchlings survive to adulthood.....the link below is most interesting.

http://www.seeturtles.org/baby-turtles/

There are thousands of rookeries though out Australia and the world......Mon Repos seems to be an isolated case, which I might add, has happened before over the past 5000 years...Some research by your good self will confirm will confirm this....We have lots of hutches on the Townsville beaches and to date I have not seen any news of this problem or from any other parts of Australia.
Hatchlings normally wait until the sand cools down before venturing down the beach to the open sea.....I have not heard of hatchings traversing over hot sands in the middle of the day.,

 

[noco]

The great Global Warming scam has finally been revealed by a whistle-blower from NOAA......NOAA have been caught out fiddling with data to influence the Paris agreement which Trump is preparing to tear up.

No doubt in my mind NOAA has been influenced by the corrupt United Nations.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...a/news-story/5081f9858ca53e43b9431fca453b4d54

 

[overhang]

The great Global Warming scam has finally been revealed by a whistle-blower from NOAA......NOAA have been caught out fiddling with data to influence the Paris agreement which Trump is preparing to tear up.

No doubt in my mind NOAA has been influenced by the corrupt United Nations.

As with everything there are two sides to the story

http://icarus-maynooth.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/on-mail-on-sunday-article-on-karl-et-al.html?m=1

The 'whistle blower' is John Bates who was not involved in any aspect of the work. NOAA's process is very stove-piped such that beyond seminars there is little dissemination of information across groups. John Bates never participated in any of the numerous technical meetings on the land or marine data I have participated in at NOAA NCEI either in person or remotely. This shows in his reputed (I am taking the journalist at their word that these are directly attributable quotes) mis-representation of the processes that actually occured. In some cases these mis-representations are publically verifiable.

And on the actual science side
https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-mail-sundays-astonishing-evidence-global-temperature-rise

 

[noco]

As with everything there are two sides to the story

http://icarus-maynooth.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/on-mail-on-sunday-article-on-karl-et-al.html?m=1


And on the actual science side
https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-mail-sundays-astonishing-evidence-global-temperature-rise

But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.


It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised...


In an exclusive interview, Dr Bates accused the lead author of the paper, Thomas Karl, who was until last year director of the NOAA section that produces climate data – the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) – of ‘insisting on decisions and scientific choices that maximised warming and minimised documentation… in an effort to discredit the notion of a global warming pause, rushed so that he could time publication to influence national and international deliberations on climate policy’.


Dr Bates was one of two Principal Scientists at NCEI, based in Asheville, North Carolina.

 

[overhang]

But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.

As I pointed out we can go tit for tat on this but there is no point as it won't alter your position. I love how Dr John Bates now has an "impeccable" reputation, I bet a week ago he was just another scientist standing in the way of the Daily Mails climate denial.

Do you consider it possible that climate change caused by man is real but also that certain authorities and powers (UN) are using it as a power grab to run an alternative political agenda?

 

[noco]

As I pointed out we can go tit for tat on this but there is no point as it won't alter your position. I love how Dr John Bates now has an "impeccable" reputation, I bet a week ago he was just another scientist standing in the way of the Daily Mails climate denial.

Do you consider it possible that climate change caused by man is real but also that certain authorities and powers (UN) are using it as a power grab to run an alternative political agenda?

Climate Change (it used to be Global Warming) is a scam set up by the United Nations to scare people into believing UN led World government is the answer......The UN is so corrupt and disorganized and to the point of collapse and that event will be assisted by the USA when they pull out of the UN within the next 2 years...The USA provides 22% of the finances to the UN.

The information on Climate Change is a fiddle with the truth which has now been proven over and over again.

 

[Tisme]

I see the turtle population is declining because the nesting beaches are too hot for the eggs to incubate.

Eggs are being moved under shade cloth shelters.

I'm guessing the prolonged degree days are causing major heat soak into the sand.

 

[noco]

I see the turtle population is declining because the nesting beaches are too hot for the eggs to incubate.

Eggs are being moved under shade cloth shelters.

I'm guessing the prolonged degree days are causing major heat soak into the sand.

That is at Mon Repo near Bundaberg and is an isolated case....They don't say how many have perished...Is it 200 or 500?..... it really does not matter as only one in 1000 survive to adult hood, so they were probably in the 999 group.

Once again another beat up on Global Warming justification.

We have heaps of rookeries on the Townville beaches and lots of others beaches in NQ....No problem up this way......

 

[overhang]

Climate Change (it used to be Global Warming) is a scam set up by the United Nations to scare people into believing UN led World government is the answer......The UN is so corrupt and disorganized and to the point of collapse and that event will be assisted by the USA when they pull out of the UN within the next 2 years...The USA provides 22% of the finances to the UN.

The information on Climate Change is a fiddle with the truth which has now been proven over and over again.

This would be a greater con job than if man didn't actually walk on the moon or the whole jet fuel can't melt steel beams conspiracy. There is no way they have been able to manipulate multiple agencies around the world and peer reviewed papers into some climate change hoax.

But hypothetically if they're wrong a world with low emissions is still a much better world to live in than one that continues to pollute the air we breathe.

 

[Tisme]

This would be a greater con job than if man didn't actually walk on the moon or the whole jet fuel can't melt steel beams conspiracy. There is no way they have been able to manipulate multiple agencies around the world and peer reviewed papers into some climate change hoax.

But hypothetically if they're wrong a world with low emissions is still a much better world to live in than one that continues to pollute the air we breathe.

So we have to cleanup the legacy of our forefathers for the benefit of our descendants? I can't see that happening soon .... it's so unfair and nuisance factor = high.

 

[explod]

So we have to cleanup the legacy of our forefathers for the benefit of our descendants? I can't see that happening soon .... it's so unfair and nuisance factor = high.

So just give up and party hey

 

[Tisme]

So just give up and party hey

I think so. We have to leave something for the next generation to solve. And why should Australia take a hit for the excesses of USA, China, India, Europe, etc?

If 19.2590° S, 146.8169° E is fine then the whole thing must be a hoax.

 

[luutzu]

I think so. We have to leave something for the next generation to solve. And why should Australia take a hit for the excesses of USA, China, India, Europe, etc?

If 19.2590° S, 146.8169° E is fine then the whole thing must be a hoax.

That's slightly better than policy makers and makers of policy makers thinking that if their mansions in X, Y and Z are fine, CC doesn't really matter.

 

[noco]

Darling Downs is losing it's crops due to heat...13 years ahead of schedule. Hottest summer ever.

Expect high grocery prices.

Next seven days more record breaking temps expected

Hottest summer ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......Not according to past records.

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/ex...he-outback-on-special-trains-as-hundreds-die/

 

[luutzu]

Hottest summer ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......Not according to past records.

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/ex...he-outback-on-special-trains-as-hundreds-die/

I'll be really impressed if you can show me another period of time where each and every consecutive year is the hottest ever recorded. That is, average yearly temperature keep on rising for 15 years in a row.

I heard from scientist who study these stuff that the chances of these set of records are one in some billion.

So we can point to one day in the past that has been hotter, show 15 consecutive years please.

 

[noco]

I'll be really impressed if you can show me another period of time where each and every consecutive year is the hottest ever recorded. That is, average yearly temperature keep on rising for 15 years in a row.

I heard from scientist who study these stuff that the chances of these set of records are one in some billion.

So we can point to one day in the past that has been hotter, show 15 consecutive years please.

I'll be really impressed if you can show me another period of time where each and every consecutive year is the hottest ever recorded. That is, average yearly temperature keep on rising for 15 years in a row.

I heard from scientist who study these stuff that the chances of these set of records are one in some billion.

So we can point to one day in the past that has been hotter, show 15 consecutive years please.

We are talking about heat wave conditions.......The 15 years you included is a scam and NOAA have been proven to be fiddling with the grafts to please the UN...Go back to some of the previous posts and it will be confirmed as to what I am saying.

 

[Tisme]

About time the public were educated about the difference between peak daily dry bulb temps and actual total daily enthalpy.

If they did they would understand why a 32degC day in Brisbane summer is ~just as uncomfortable as a 38degC in, say Adelaide, maybe worse.

It's undeniable that the tropics are marching south and pushing the coastal rains of Southern Australia south too, a gradual desertification of S/W through to S/E Oz.

I just have look at how the Pilbra is looking greener and greener each year.