Resisting Climate Hysteria

[cynic]

You could read them and decide for yourself, if you could be bothered.

I did take a quick glance at those opinion pieces that you represented as "A few more inconvenient facts.."

Hence I consider it reasonable to direct the question at the entity making the claim, namely your good self.

 

[trainspotter]

This sums it up for me ....



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...riticised-for-taking-private-jet-from-cannes/

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/21/leonardo-dicaprio-takes-private-jet-accept-environmental-award

According to The New York Post, the private jet flights expanded his carbon footprint by 8,000 miles.

During his Oscar acceptance speech earlier this year, DiCaprio had said, “Climate change is real. It is happening right now. It is the most urgent threat facing our entire species.”

Robert Rapier, an environmental analyst, told the Post that DiCaprio's history of private jets and yachts "diminishes his moral authority to lecture others on reducing their own carbon emissions."

“[He] demonstrates exactly why our consumption of fossil fuels continues to grow," Rapier said. "It’s because everyone loves the combination of cost and convenience they offer. Alternatives usually require sacrifice of one form or another. Everybody says, ‘I’ve got a good reason for consuming what I consume’ ... It’s the exact same rationalization for billions of people."

He must be getting his temperature readings from the wrong side of the inlet valve of the steam engine with a Mercury thermometer attached?

 

[basilio]

How can we make Climate Change "go away " ?

Really if your the Federal Liberal Government of De Nile it's simple. You just make sure no one publishes anything about the impact of CC on Australia.

Da Da !! It's all gone away.

Now that may sound like a fairy tale that not even the most brain dead, idiotic, denialist could muster up. But of course that doesn't do justice to the exquisitely brain dead, idiotic, denialists we have in our current government. Check out their efforts .

Australia scrubbed from UN climate change report after government intervention

Exclusive: All mentions of Australia were removed from the final version of a Unesco report on climate change and world heritage sites after the Australian government objected on the grounds it could impact on tourism

Revealed: Guardian Australia has obtained the Unesco report Australia didn’t want the world to see. Read it now
Great Barrier Reef

Michael Slezak


Friday 27 May 2016 06.07 AEST

Every reference to Australia was scrubbed from the final version of a major UN report on climate change after the Australian government intervened, objecting that the information could harm tourism.

Guardian Australia can reveal the report “World Heritage and Tourism in a Changing Climate”, which Unesco jointly published with the United Nations environment program and the Union of Concerned Scientists on Friday, initially had a key chapter on the Great Barrier Reef, as well as small sections on Kakadu and the Tasmanian forests.

But when the Australian Department of Environment saw a draft of the report, it objected, and every mention of Australia was removed by Unesco. Will Steffen, one of the scientific reviewers of the axed section on the reef, said Australia’s move was reminiscent of “the old Soviet Union”.

No sections about any other country were removed from the report. The removals left Australia as the only inhabited continent on the planet with no mentions.

Explaining the decision to object to the report, a spokesperson for the environment department told Guardian Australia: “Recent experience in Australia had shown that negative commentary about the status of world heritage properties impacted on tourism.”

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...e-change-report-after-government-intervention

 

[bellenuit]

How can we make Climate Change "go away " ?

Really if your the Federal Liberal Government of De Nile it's simple. You just make sure no one publishes anything about the impact of CC on Australia.

Da Da !! It's all gone away.v

Now that may sound like a fairy tale that not even the most brain dead, idiotic, denialist could muster up. But of course that doesn't do justice to the exquisitely brain dead, idiotic, denialists we have in our current government. Check out their efforts .


http://www.theguardian.com/environm...e-change-report-after-government-intervention

Which raises the question, how can these reports be taken seriously when they are subject to the whims of government. I am sure the story is true, but what does it say about UNESCO. Can what it says be taken seriously anymore?

 

[basilio]

Which raises the question, how can these reports be taken seriously when they are subject to the whims of government. I am sure the story is true, but what does it say about UNESCO. Can what it says be taken seriously anymore?

Well in this case UNESCO said (through gritted teeth) "OK" and then promptly made sure that that this supremely stupid effort at Soviet style censorship was made public. And of course the full report is now in the open and will attract even more attention that it otherwise might have.

I think your point Bellenuit however is more subtle. How can we be sure that UNESCO reports aren't massaged to suit particular countries interests? For example if the Environment Department had tried to offer an alternative story for publication ? In point of fact that does happen in a number of circumstances.

Overall this has to be the most boneheaded, sackable action I have ever seen by a Minister. In the world of real politick I can understand dubious efforts at disinformation, lying, cover ups. But when one analyses such actions the key questions are "Can we get away with it ? And "If it turns to merde do we have plausible deniability" ?

In what universe did Minister Hunt think he could instruct (or allow) such an action and keep it secret or keep his fingerprints off it ? It is so manifestly incompetent I cannot see how he can keep his position.

In the same vein I struggle to see how Malcolm Turnball can deal with the fallout. This will make the Government a laughing stock for it's political stupidity as well as earning widespread contempt for it's dishonesty.

Good luck to the political spinners today.

 

[basilio]

For those interested in what the excised report on the Great Barrier Reef said check out this URL. Quite interesting.

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...ef-that-australia-didnt-want-the-world-to-see

 

[basilio]

This story is growing quickly. SMH is now covering it. As is the ABC.

Somehow it appears that Minister Greg Hunt had absolutely nothing to do with the demand that the offending report be removed. He knew NOTHING according to the Department of the Environment. Not told, not briefed.

Let's see how the principles of Ministerial accountability holds up here. I don't believe it will pass the pub test.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/a...id-damaging-reef-tourism-20160526-gp4zzo.html
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4470533.htm

 

[orr]

This story is growing quickly. SMH is now covering it. As is the ABC.

Somehow it appears that Minister Greg Hunt had absolutely nothing to do with the demand that the offending report be removed. He knew NOTHING according to the Department of the Environment. Not told, not briefed.

Let's see how the principles of Ministerial accountability holds up here. I don't believe it will pass the pub test.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/a...id-damaging-reef-tourism-20160526-gp4zzo.html
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4470533.htm

Cnut trying to hold back the tide.

 

[dutchie]

Looks like a good idea to put our economy in jeopardy with a carbon tax (or whatever).

Meanwhile......

Bangladesh, regarded by many as the nation most vulnerable to the impacts of global climate change, is on track to construct two coal-fired power plants.

A major driver behind these new power power plants is to increase electricity resources for Bangladesh’s 157 million people and achieve its goal of becoming a middle-income country by 2021. Currently, the country produces 8,000 megawatts of electricity but the demand strongly outweighs supply, with regular power outages that last for hours.

https://news.mongabay.com/2016/02/b...l-power-plant-project-despite-major-backlash/

Japanese to bankroll $4.6bn Bangladesh coal-fired power plants

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/...4-6bn-bangladesh-coal-fired-power-plants.html



No doubt the bad climate will hang over Bangladesh for a long time.

 

[luutzu]

Looks like a good idea to put our economy in jeopardy with a carbon tax (or whatever).

Meanwhile......

Bangladesh, regarded by many as the nation most vulnerable to the impacts of global climate change, is on track to construct two coal-fired power plants.

A major driver behind these new power power plants is to increase electricity resources for Bangladesh’s 157 million people and achieve its goal of becoming a middle-income country by 2021. Currently, the country produces 8,000 megawatts of electricity but the demand strongly outweighs supply, with regular power outages that last for hours.

https://news.mongabay.com/2016/02/b...l-power-plant-project-despite-major-backlash/

Japanese to bankroll $4.6bn Bangladesh coal-fired power plants

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/...4-6bn-bangladesh-coal-fired-power-plants.html



No doubt the bad climate will hang over Bangladesh for a long time.

These two must do well for coal stocks ey Dutch.

Why can't we be as brave and desperate as Bangladesh.

 

[dutchie]

Why can't we be as brave and desperate as Bangladesh.

Because we are already a "middle-income country" - whoopeee

 

[Logique]

My bolds. Save that the alarmists can, like a rabbit out of a hat, produce a new Galileo of climate science..their story is told, just another thought bubble from the Arts faculty.

It's hot, no it's cold..only Left wing politics can save us..

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/29/a-major-malaise-of-climatology-is-pervasive-in-science/
...Here is what former United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015 said.

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,”

“We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy...

 

[orr]

My bolds. Save that the alarmists can, like a rabbit out of a hat, produce a new Galileo of climate science..their story is told, just another thought bubble from the Arts faculty.

It's hot, no it's cold..only Left wing politics can save us..

On my reading of what I think is your take on redistribution, you make the assumption that there's some type of centralized socialist detemanant at the heart of this.... But you are wrong.
As an example;
If we take the redistribution in terms of power generation that applies today to an induvidual, they can now power their home and increasingly their car from power from the sun on their roof. This is a distribution of wealth that technology has produced and that capital, (forward thinking capital) has take up to its advantage, and costs are plummeting, that empowers individuals at the cost of centralised conglomerates.
The climate is threatened by industrial policy. Policies determined by powerful entrenched industrial interests and they are now threatened by the distribution of Sun light on the planet.

 

[explod]

OMG, can't believe the pollies of both parties saying they can save the reef with money. 16 billion, yee haarrrrr. everyone will take that as convincing. What a joke.

Nothing but a total change of world lifestyle NOW can provide any help at all and we can see that is not going to happen. The reef is stuffed, now we just need to stich up the skin and sit it up in the museum with our pollies.

 

[wayneL]

Maybe Leo could lead by example

 

[cynic]

Maybe Leo could lead by example

A solar powered electrical motor, fixed to a hang glider, might make for an alternative mode of aerial solo transport. Provided the weather forecast favours sunny weather and is not based on cc computer model projections.

 

[Logique]

Thank goodness Tim Flannery is on station to save the Reef! He's never been wrong before.

The Great Barrier Reef is losing its adjective and it's our fault - June 3, 2016 - Tim Flannery
SMH:http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-g...-our-fault-20160602-gp9qsh.html#ixzz4AUsQJMAc

...A green turtle passes by. As the dead reef breaks down, its habitat will be eroded to rubble...

...This great organism, the size of Germany and arguably the most diverse place on earth, is dying before our eyes. Having watched my father dying two years ago, I know what the signs of slipping away are. This is death, which ever-rising temperatures will allow no recovery from. Unless we act now...

 

[wayneL]

The classic contrarian signal. Go long on the reef folks, it's about to make an impressive recovery (as it always does after el ninos)

 

[noco]

The classic contrarian signal. Go long on the reef folks, it's about to make an impressive recovery (as it always does after el ninos)

As it has done for 500,000 years...As I have personally observed for over 80 years.....The reef is NOT dying as those radical Greens try to make out.....What utter propaganda to strengthen their stupid argument about Global warming.

 

[macca]

As it has done for 500,000 years...As I have personally observed for over 80 years.....The reef is NOT dying as those radical Greens try to make out.....What utter propaganda to strengthen their stupid argument about Global warming.

Even the pro green SMH has published an article that illustrates how the truth is distorted by the greens

"When we say .... 'only 7 per cent [of the reef] has no bleaching', that sometimes gets reported as '93 per cent of the reef is dead'," he said.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...rier-reef-is-mostly-dead-20160603-gpb6af.html