Resisting Climate Hysteria

[explod]

The Secretary General 0f the united Nations Ban-Ki-Moon has been pushing this crap for years in an endeavor to form a World Government.

Ban-Ki-Moon is an out and out Greenie.

Years ago the temperature was messured out in the sun. But due to wind and humidity factors the weathermen created more consistent readings by placing the thermometer in the shade. Namely a uniform white box covered in a cloth material.

On a 47 degree day the thermometer can in fact hit 60c outside in the sun. An example of this is where children or animals perish very quickly in a car on hot days. That is why the cloth material is used as it does not trap the air and allows it to breathe.

You cannot compare historical readings with the type of readings today.

 

[wayneL]

Years ago the temperature was messured out in the sun. But due to wind and humidity factors the weathermen created more consistent readings by placing the thermometer in the shade. Namely a uniform white box covered in a cloth material.

On a 47 degree day the thermometer can in fact hit 60c outside in the sun. An example of this is where children or animals perish very quickly in a car on hot days. That is why the cloth material is used as it does not trap the air and allows it to breathe.

You cannot compare historical readings with the type of readings today.

If that is true the whole temp record is not worth a cracker and alarmist are massaging data artifact into what they want to see.

Hoist by your petard there Plod.

 

[explod]

If that is true the whole temp record is not worth a cracker and alarmist are massaging data artifact into what they want to see.

Hoist by your petard there Plod.

Agree, personal observations and knowledge that methane is escaping at unprecedented levels indicates that we need to go to 100%renewables as fast as we can.

Bring on more of those dirty and ugly wind farms.

Sorry about that clean coal, ole Pal

 

[basilio]

July was the warmest month on record across the globe. Ever.

And not by a small amount.

Ocean Temperatures are also at their highest.

Global Summary Information - July 2015
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Note: With this report and data release, the National Centers for Environmental Information is transitioning to improved versions of its global land (GHCN-M version 3.3.0) and ocean (ERSST version 4.0.0) datasets. Please note that anomalies and ranks reflect the historical record according to these updated versions. Historical months and years may differ from what was reported in previous reports. For more, please visit the associated FAQ and supplemental information.

July 2015 was warmest month ever recorded for the globe.
Global oceans record warm for July; January-July 2015 also record warm

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

 

[orr]

July was the warmest month on record across the globe. Ever.

And not by a small amount.

Ocean Temperatures are also at their highest.



http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

Ahh but Bas, focus on the positives... there I was toying with the unfavorable odds of truffles in the southern alpine region, whereas now, it's a no brainer to go with macadamia's in the Gippsland. While the irukandji's continue their southern infestation to the Sunshine coast then Cape Byron and beyond.
It's the physics... If more heat goes into the thing, than goes out of the thing, then the thing gets warmer.... What's left to say??? they just don't get it

The Gonski reforms would have, over time, reconciled the bulk of these type of educational deficiencies, so it's obvious why 'the coals good for inhumanity dolts' put the kybosh on that and broader progress toward critical thought. Of course you'd still be left with a rump...but of diminishing consequence.

 

[wayneL]

July was the warmest month on record across the globe. Ever.

And not by a small amount.

Ocean Temperatures are also at their highest.



http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

http://joannenova.com.au/2015/08/ho...test-july-since-2014-according-to-satellites/

Hottest July in 4000 years? Not even the hottest July since *2014* according to satellites

NOAA has a press release out being picked up around the world. For example, the DailyMail, UK, is saying July was the hottest month since records began in 1880 as heatwaves swept the Earth’s countries and oceans. Other silly tabloids have headlines about this being the hottest July in 4,000 years, as if we have even the remotest idea what the average July global temperature was in the days of Plato.

Better data shows July this year is the hottest since way back in… 2014. It’s not 4,000 years, not 135 years, it’s the hottest July since the last one.

 

[Knobby22]

The graphs are measuring different things.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration are measuring global surface temperature (oceans and land) while JoNova is showing lower troposphere averages. We aren't comparing apples with apples.

For clarity both graphs shown following.





I will let everyone come to their own conclusions but scientifically I think JoNova is being a little dishonest by pulling out one piece of data and not addressing the rest of it. Hey, but she is probably paid to do that.

 

[macca]

This will upset the greens ......................

Indigenous fire methods could slash global emissions: UN report

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3...could-slash-global-emissions-un-report/?cs=12

After all the years of having lovely green bush to drive past, (pity about the the fauna, the people or their houses when summer comes along) the UN have decided that the aborigines, the old bushies and farmers have been right all along.

The younger generation of my family will be miffed, we have had this discussion a number of times

 

[wayneL]

Knobby

Ocean temps have human artifact... Vis a vis recalibrations AKA adjustments. We shall have to wait and whether purported ocean temps manifest in the atmosphere like the last el Nino did. That will be telling....


...or not as the case may be.

 

[explod]

This will upset the greens ......................

Indigenous fire methods could slash global emissions: UN report

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3...could-slash-global-emissions-un-report/?cs=12

After all the years of having lovely green bush to drive past, (pity about the the fauna, the people or their houses when summer comes along) the UN have decided that the aborigines, the old bushies and farmers have been right all along.

The younger generation of my family will be miffed, we have had this discussion a number of times

What a load of rubbish. It is well documented and proven that before the indigenous arrived in Australia abouf 45,000 years ago that Australia was an oasis of forrests and heavy pasture. The burning off since turned most of it into desert. Newzealand were heading the same way as did Christmas Island totally.

The BS served up to try and justify our current direction and lifestyle never ceases to amaze.

 

[wayneL]

What a load of rubbish. It is well documented and proven that before the indigenous arrived in Australia abouf 45,000 years ago that Australia was an oasis of forrests and heavy pasture. The burning off since turned most of it into desert. Newzealand were heading the same way as did Christmas Island totally.

The BS served up to try and justify our current direction and lifestyle never ceases to amaze.

Cites please Plod

 

[sptrawler]

Years ago the temperature was messured out in the sun. But due to wind and humidity factors the weathermen created more consistent readings by placing the thermometer in the shade. Namely a uniform white box covered in a cloth material.

On a 47 degree day the thermometer can in fact hit 60c outside in the sun. An example of this is where children or animals perish very quickly in a car on hot days. That is why the cloth material is used as it does not trap the air and allows it to breathe.

You cannot compare historical readings with the type of readings today.

I tend to think, there will be more to worry about, over the next few years.

World climate, might take a second seat, to welfare sustainability.IMO

 

[explod]

Cites please Plod

It is common knowlege.

Did you go to school?

We learnt all that at Hawkesdale Primary No. 766

 

[wayneL]

It is common knowlege.

Did you go to school?

We learnt all that at Hawkesdale Primary No. 766

We were all taught lots of crap in school.

Cites please

 

[explod]

We were all taught lots of crap in school.

Cites please

Tim Flannery's digging in the dirt.

Not going to bother getting his books out now but covered in his first one. In fact a lot of his excavations were around our area.

 

[Tisme]

What a load of rubbish. It is well documented and proven that before the indigenous arrived in Australia abouf 45,000 years ago that Australia was an oasis of forrests and heavy pasture. The burning off since turned most of it into desert. Newzealand were heading the same way as did Christmas Island totally.

The BS served up to try and justify our current direction and lifestyle never ceases to amaze.

I'm guessing Bill Gammage would disagree. But Bill has written a book and that makes it true.

 

[trainspotter]

Did someone say Sydney is in a drought?

45,000 years ago ...Pfftttttttttt puleeeeeeeeeze this has been going on for millions of years !



http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/

It is obvious from the graph that we are now living in the coldest period of Earth’s history for the last 65 million years. Despite recent rumors of global warming, we are actually in a deep freeze.

 

[macca]

What a load of rubbish. It is well documented and proven that before the indigenous arrived in Australia abouf 45,000 years ago that Australia was an oasis of forrests and heavy pasture. The burning off since turned most of it into desert. Newzealand were heading the same way as did Christmas Island totally.

The BS served up to try and justify our current direction and lifestyle never ceases to amaze.

Yes, 45000 years ago the climate was very different. For example, the weather patterns that currently travel along the Great Australian Bight used to travel about where the Tropic of Capricorn is. Mungo National Park was a then a string of lakes with that much food it was a paradise, now it is a desert.

The reasons are mainly twofold, after eating all the slow animals the aboriginals found it hard to hunt the fast ones through the bush so they burnt it. This was the start of the outback as we know it now but at the same time the Earth has been through many climate cycles, when it is in an ice age the weather patterns move closer to the Equator and when it warms they expand back towards the poles.

We are left with what we have got, so how do we keep it as is or improve it ? The main thing that will make a global difference is to get every country involved to reduce pollution, that is what is damaging the World, all this frantic waffle about Co2 is a mere smoke screen so that the real, tangible, visible, breathable pollution is off the radar.

I would not be at all surprised if the Co2 bandwaggon is encouraged by the Polluters so that the world does not suddenly start looking at them.

The world needs Co2, it does not need air that burns our throats, poisoned rivers or lakes !

 

[basilio]

It is always interesting delving into the Mad Hatters world of CC on ASF.

The world has had its warmest July on record. Thats it. End of story. The temperature readings across the world on land and sea are the evidence of this simple matter of fact.

And the response from the usual suspects ? Oh we can find some average figures from satellites in the lower troposphere. Lets dish these up to offer an alternative reality to the thousands of on the ground measurements from meteorlogists around the world.

It leaves genuine scepticism at home and takes denial to a new art form.

And you want us to take you seriously ? Totally deluded or completly deceptive. Your choice.

 

[noco]

It is always interesting delving into the Mad Hatters world of CC on ASF.

The world has had its warmest July on record. Thats it. End of story. The temperature readings across the world on land and sea are the evidence of this simple matter of fact.

And the response from the usual suspects ? Oh we can find some average figures from satellites in the lower troposphere. Lets dish these up to offer an alternative reality to the thousands of on the ground measurements from meteorlogists around the world.

It leaves genuine scepticism at home and takes denial to a new art form.

And you want us to take you seriously ? Totally deluded or completly deceptive. Your choice.

Was this an email direct from Ban-Ki-Moon, Al Gore or Tim Flannery.