Turnbull - New Liberal Leader

[noco]

noco , fair point, … oops lol -
but the following additional points are also relevant ...

a) thanks for clarifying that your word "childist" was indeed a typo.
I mean there are "ageist" tactics for instance, (racist, sexist, etc)
.. so I figured you'd used "childist" tactics intentionally .



b) you claimed "you were appalled" without a single example. Hence I would say you were inviting some counter-comment - with or without pedantry.

c) Since I have acknowledged my error, will you acknowledge that you have latched onto a minor error in my response to you, without acknowledging the point that on this particular thread at least, the reverse is true, i.e. Liberal supporters use the more offensive adjectives / criticism. ?

d) Fortunately (for my argument) Paul Keating has moved on lol.

e) PS (I add PS's in the time for double-checking) - Should you call me a socialist, I'll reject that - though perhaps , like your typo .. " childist vs childish " , I am socialish

Good one 2020 but remember "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones". Gotcha.

 

[The Mint Man]

I extended parliamentarians to sit on Fridays too:

 

[2020hindsight]

Good one 2020 but remember "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones". Gotcha.

shinbone the day I don't make a typpo in my posts is miles out there in the future..
(but that wasn't the point of my post was it )

 

[justjohn]

Noco...you didn't have to wait long but remember DO NOT ANGER THE LABOR GODS

 

[The Mint Man]

Noco...you didn't have to wait long but remember DO NOT ANGER THE LABOR GODS

don't hassle the religion of Ruddtology. No respect

 

[2020hindsight]

Question for you blokes - how many Fridays were these parliamentarians asked to work? - (i.e. when they carried on as if the boss had asked them to work every day through their Xmas holidays for the next ten years , sheesh. )

 

[Nashezz]

They don't need to know the answer 2020, they have propaganda and bias as their ally... I mean surely that's enough to make a credible argument eh?

 

[noco]

Question for you blokes - how many Fridays were these parliamentarians asked to work? - (i.e. when they carried on as if the boss had asked them to work every day through their Xmas holidays for the next ten years , sheesh. )

Only one Friday 2020. Krudd got his fingers burnt and did not have the guts to seek a second Friday. Even some of his own party were critical of this prank since he did not turn up himself.

 

[2020hindsight]

Only one Friday 2020. Krudd got his fingers burnt and did not have the guts to seek a second Friday. Even some of his own party were critical of this prank since he did not turn up himself.

Pollies .... ask em to do a few days work without the headmaster, and they claim "unconstitutionality " lol

Looks like ..
16 days for the Reps (of which they worked 1) , 22 Feb.
12 for the Senate.

sheesh, I work that in unpaid overtime every year.
http://www.aph.gov.au/House/info/sittings/index.htm

PS example of typical pollie lurk:-
Iemma retires on an ongoing pension of $100K - now - don't you think, for those sort of lurks (typical) , they could work a few full weeks in a year?

PS noco ... You're starting to fall into your own trap .... the man's name is Rudd not Krudd - gee you one-eyed Liberal blokes and your foul tongues lol.

 

[Julia]

I think Rudd is about as likable as Turnbull (ie not at all) but thank god he has a level head on the economy without all the talking up and chasing unsustainable growth of the last govt.

And call me racist or whatever but I stronly prefer a christian PM like K Rudd. Not sure many christian countries elect jews or muslims nowadays.

Pepperoni, you might like to moderate the above comment. Apparently Mr Turnbull is a Catholic. Why did you assume, without checking, that he was a Jew? And for that matter, what do you have against Jews?

 

[2020hindsight]

Pepperoni, you might like to moderate the above comment. Apparently Mr Turnbull is a Catholic. Why did you assume, without checking, that he was a Jew? And for that matter, what do you have against Jews?

Maybe someone misunderstood this ... (where Turnbull's behaviour seems perfectly reasonable to me - probably clever politically as well of course) .. Protection for Israeli schools in Wentworth electorate ...

http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/Pages/Article.aspx?ID=906

i.e. he courted the Jewish vote in Vaucluse, and was called an "honourary Jew" ( not like his competitor, a real Jew, George Newhouse, lol)

http://www.crikey.com.au/Election-2007/20071025-Courting-the-Jewish-vote.html

The fight for the Federal seat of Wentworth is between the self-appointed, Honorary Jew (Malcolm Turnbull) and the proudly Zionist, True Jew (George Newhouse.)

But in any case (and speaking generally ) let's remember that General John Monash was an Aussie Jew - one of the best Aussies ever - and he won WWI for us (in fact for us all )

http://www.abc.net.au/overnights/stories/s1197866.htm

John Monash - the outsider who won a war
"Without question John Monash was the greatest commander of World War One!"
This is the claim of Roland Perry, author of "Monash, the Outsider who won a war" Perry, in conversation with Trevor Chappell went further and claimed he is the greatest Australian - greater than Don Bradman! - (which he can claim with some authority as he he is Bradman's biographer!)

If so, how did an Australian achieve this in WW1 and why is it that we know so little about him?. etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Monash

Troops later recounted that one of the most extraordinary things about the Battle of Hamel was not the use of armoured cars, or simply the tremendous success of the operation, but the fact that in the midst of battle Monash had arranged delivery of hot meals up to the front line.

By the end of the war Monash had acquired an outstanding reputation for intellect, personal magnetism, management and ingenuity. He also won the respect and loyalty of his troops: his motto was "Feed your troops on victory". Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery later wrote: "I would name Sir John Monash as the best general on the western front in Europe".

His face is on Australia's highest value currency note ($100).

Monash's success in part reflected the tolerance of Australian society, but to a larger degree his success - in the harshest experience the young nation had suffered - shaped that tolerance and demonstrated to Australians that the Australian character was diverse, multi-ethnic, and a blend of the traditions of the 'Bush' and the 'city'.

 

[2020hindsight]

PS lol
:topic Maybe I should add that the Palestinians fighting alongside Lawrence of Arabia in WWI (under promise of a homeland after the war - which was stolen from them by French expansionism after the war) also helped win the war - in fact (in my understanding anyway) they beat the Turks, where the Anzacs could not .

 

[Macquack]

Why did you assume, without checking, that he was a Jew?

1. Multi-millionaire ( worth $120 million )
2. Ex-banker
3. Lives in Vaucluse
An understandable mistake in my book.

One other point, I always believed Turnbull was set up by Howard to sabotage the "Australian Republic" campaign. He is a political opportunist.

 

[Nashezz]

Only one Friday 2020. Krudd got his fingers burnt and did not have the guts to seek a second Friday. Even some of his own party were critical of this prank since he did not turn up himself.

Of course if Johnny had made the policy and was away doing the business expected of a Prime Minister on the first day I am sure you would have thought the policy was a great one, and Johnny was pardonable in his absence. Hard working Johnny making those scamming pollies, particularly the lazy Labor bureaucrats, work like a good conservative does.......

 

[pacestick]

promoting a merchant banker at the moment may not have been wise as they seem to be rapidly getting the reputation of being a bunch of spivs

 

[Calliope]

After watching Mr Turnbull on Tony Jones's Q & A last night I think any doubts have been removed that he makes the Labor trio of Rudd, Gillard and Swan look very second rate. He was, as said on ABC News Radio this morning, "open, charming and funny." This is in stark contrast to the Labor trio who have made it an art form of not answering any questions whether on in Question Time or in interviews.

 

[Nyden]

I think Rudd is about as likable as Turnbull (ie not at all) but thank god he has a level head on the economy without all the talking up and chasing unsustainable growth of the last govt.

And call me racist or whatever but I stronly prefer a christian PM like K Rudd. Not sure many christian countries elect jews or muslims nowadays.

May I ask why you would want a christian (or any religious) leader? I would much rather an atheist leader; you know, someone who places hopes for the future in science ... as opposed to a make-believe over glorified Santa-clause floating on a cloud?

... Eeep, do I need to kiss beads now, or sacrifice a cow to appease the gods? : Sorry, but I am rather tired of all this in god we trust (guess that's American though) nonsense.

Oh, and a more on-topic comment; I believe Turnbull is so far doing a splendid job.

 

[adobee]

I dont think that politicians should bring any religous views to the table.. they are there to represent australia as a whole..

I have been a big Rudd fan, up to now i didnt think the libs had anything on him.. (howard, costello or nelson anyway) but I think Turnbull can bring it home.. he has me swung on personality, charisma, stating what he thinks with out reteric and being confident to say it and not steer away from any issues.. with a few good policies he will be next pm hands down..

 

[Calliope]

I dont think that politicians should bring any religous views to the table.. they are there to represent australia as a whole..

I have been a big Rudd fan, up to now i didnt think the libs had anything on him.. (howard, costello or nelson anyway) but I think Turnbull can bring it home.. he has me swung on personality, charisma, stating what he thinks with out reteric and being confident to say it and not steer away from any issues.. with a few good policies he will be next pm hands down..

I also now think that Turnbull is a laydown misere. In the personality stakes Rudd is like a ventriloquist's doll programmed with cliches and waffle, all coming out of that prissy little mouth.

 

[Nashezz]

lol - no doubt personality rather than policy is a good reason to vote a PM in.

Isn't that how Bush beat Al Gore, or how the Governator got in? You guys sure know how to pick 'em. I mean if he's charming and I can actually watch him on TV then yee haa - pick for the nation. I am sure the average Italian while they think they are on a good thing (because he is charming apparently) are lovin Silvio Berlusconi's work.