Turnbull - New Liberal Leader

[2020hindsight]

PS Looks like the Libs are going to try to get old age pensioners more money by introducing a bill to the Senate and embarrassing the govt. Will they extent this to carers and other classes of pensions? single mothers etc ? - or aren't there enough votes there?

Will they simultaneously pass some bills in the senate - release some money to the coffers of govt ? or is the assumption that it comes out of reserves? And whence this sudden generosity by the Libs, who only about 18 months ago approx, (according to Costello's book) considered raising the pension, - DURING TIMES OF MILK AND HONEY - but knocked it back!.

 

[noirua]

PS Looks like the Libs are going to try to get old age pensioners more money by introducing a bill to the Senate and embarrassing the govt. Will they extent this to carers and other classes of pensions? single mothers etc ? - or aren't there enough votes there?

Will they simultaneously pass some bills in the senate - release some money to the coffers of govt ? or is the assumption that it comes out of reserves? And whence this sudden generosity by the Libs, who only a bit over a year ago, (according to Costello's book) considered raising the pension, - DURING TIMES OF MILK AND HONEY - but knocked it back!.

The way things are going the pensioners will probably find additional benefits harder to get. As a European financial disaster heads this way.

 

[Nashezz]

Interesting too that Turnball has held onto the Nelson ideal of taking 5c off the fuel excise after becoming leader. Hmmm. I understand and appreciate his desire to lead with some consensus but surely he could have persuaded his colleagues that particular policy is a tad silly.

 

[Calliope]

signed Kyoto
which you seem to mean "trivial" - then we ain't gonna agree on much Datsun..

Kyoto is now irrelevant. It is now all about Wall Street. The global financial crisis coming out of Wall Street will do more to more to reduce global emissions than the Kyoto converts ever dreamed of. Climate change mitigation is a luxury we can no longer afford.

Both Rudd and Turnbull will reach this conclusion before very long.

 

[2020hindsight]

Kyoto is now irrelevant. It is now all about Wall Street. The global financial crisis coming out of Wall Street will do more to more to reduce global emissions than the Kyoto converts ever dreamed of. Climate change mitigation is a luxury we can no longer afford.

Both Rudd and Turnbull will reach this conclusion before very long.

you've misquoted me there calliope
but what you are saying about recent crash having the same effect goes without saying ...
every cloud has a silver lining...
question is we will come out of this crisis one day, and we should have a system ready if not in place ... (imo).

 

[noco]

I am absolutley appalled at the childist tactics of many members of the Labor party since Malcolm Turbull became leader ot the Liberal Party.

Their name calling is the type of reaction you could expect from the Labor party when they are intimidated by this new leader, and it certainly does not do them or their party justice. They should go home, change their KHAKI NICKERS and have a cold shower.

Personal attacks will get them nowhere.

 

[2020hindsight]

I am absolutley appalled at the childist tactics of many members of the Labor party since Malcolm Turbull became leader ot the Liberal Party.

Their name calling is the type of reaction you could expect from the Labor party ....

name calling ?
noco, Maybe you can give us some examples - but here are some I just found on this thread at least ..

lol - yep - headlines tomorrow "CHIMNEY SWEEP MAKES GOOD - NEW LEADER OF THE LIBS!"

Meanwhile this is how the media refer to him...

..The media report Turnbull ..."spoilt little rich kid silvertail" from way back. ..

and Conversely, this is how the Liberal followers on this thread refer to Rudd

Rudd is like the old SAMPLEBAG joke -All show & colour on the outside & full of shyte on the inside

and you're absolutely appalled lol.

PS If you've got a problem with the second example, maybe you should take it up with Duckman lol.

PS "childist" - sheesh, another "ist" to watch out for .

 

[noco]

name calling ?
noco, Maybe you can give us some examples - but here are some I just found on this thread at least ..



Meanwhile this is how the media refer to him...



and Conversely, this is how the Liberal followers on this thread refer to Rudd



and you're absolutely appalled

PS If you've got a problem with the second example, maybe you should take it up with Duckman lol.

PS "childist" - sheesh, another "ist" to watch out for .

Thanks for the "ingleesh" lesson 2020, I happened to hit the wrong button.
I'll BE WATCHING YOUR ENGLISH IN FUTURE!

If you want to see how the Labor school kids act in parliament, suggest you watch question time 2pm ABC Monday to Thursday.

 

[The Mint Man]

2020, I have to agree with the general direction Noco is going here with his argument.
The fact is that Labor are now in power but they still appear to be acting like the hooligans that they were (and still seemingly are) in opposition.
Don't you think it's time they concentrate on doing good and running the country properly instead of behaving like slandering school kids in parliment/question time etc.?


Cheers

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised to see if they change their way today.
Watch here to see if I'm right http://webcast.aph.gov.au/livebroadcasting/

 

[Nashezz]

Thanks for the "ingleesh" lesson 2020, I happened to hit the wrong button.
I'll BE WATCHING YOUR ENGLISH IN FUTURE!

If you want to see how the Labor school kids act in parliament, suggest you watch question time 2pm ABC Monday to Thursday.

How come you barnacle Liberal voters are so frikkin blind. I do watch question time and there is plenty of banter and stupid name calling from the Liberal side of politics as well. 'Cardboard Kev' anyone? (no doubt that was just a bit of rollicking fun to you guys...)

FFS open your eyes and try to refrain from your worshipful commentary.

 

[justjohn]

20/20 thanks for the quote entry but seriously is there a chance to move Bananas in Pyjamas to a different time slot instead of following QT because yesterday I thought I was watching Peter Garrett in action but in fact it was B1 prancing around and funnily enough making better sense:

 

[The Mint Man]

How come you barnacle Liberal voters are so frikkin blind. I do watch question time and there is plenty of banter and stupid name calling from the Liberal side of politics as well. 'Cardboard Kev' anyone? (no doubt that was just a bit of rollicking fun to you guys...)

FFS open your eyes and try to refrain from your worshipful commentary.

I think the difference is that when liberals were in power they were much more restrained than Labor when they are in power.
In fact, the same goes when each are in opposition. Labor were much more boisterous in opposition than the Liberals.
Ok, fair enough, Labor want to rub it in but we are almost 1 year into their term now, its time to get serious, time to meet the standard guys.
Just saying that Labor is very hard to take seriously sometimes.
Cheers

 

[Nashezz]

Whereas the party that turned up with cardboard cutouts of Rudds face to stick over their face during question time were not wasting time - they were doing that cause they are the serious party for the nation, the only party we can take seriously! Oh please.

There is plenty of denigration from both sides and I think you are One-eyed Willy if you are trying to suggest one party has the monopoly on it or even does it more often. You find Labor hard to take seriously Mint man because you vote Liberal!!!! Those of us that vote on the left see the Liberal party as quite often a joke. I do try and keep both eyes open though.

 

[The Mint Man]

Those of us that vote on the left see the Liberal party as quite often a joke. I do try and keep both eyes open though.

Well you sure as hell have a hard time showing it then
Contradiction one sentence to the next did you go to the school of PM ruddy? ruddy ruddy ruddy!!!! yay!

Cheers

 

[justjohn]

That's a bit harsh Minty poor kev07 probably wasn't in Australia long enough to attend school:

 

[Timmy]

OK, lets not descend to parliamentary standards here ... or else I will reduce the size of stroganoff serving portions even further.

 

[Nashezz]

Well you sure as hell have a hard time showing it then
Contradiction one sentence to the next did you go to the school of PM ruddy? ruddy ruddy ruddy!!!! yay!

Cheers

Hows that Mint Man? I can look at people on merit, and my statement said 'Liberal party... quite often a joke' - can you explain the contradiction? I have not voted Labor for quite some time so I guess you can gather I never went to school of PM Ruddy no matter how many roll eye or winking smiley faces you put in your post.

I have posted in this very thread that Turnball comes across as an impressive character. It may be pure charisma (which there is no doubt he has) but I am also impressed by the type of policy he alluded would be his style before becoming leader. Time will tell, but I am willing to wait and see.

 

[noco]

PS Looks like the Libs are going to try to get old age pensioners more money by introducing a bill to the Senate and embarrassing the govt. Will they extent this to carers and other classes of pensions? single mothers etc ? - or aren't there enough votes there?

Will they simultaneously pass some bills in the senate - release some money to the coffers of govt ? or is the assumption that it comes out of reserves? And whence this sudden generosity by the Libs, who only about 18 months ago approx, (according to Costello's book) considered raising the pension, - DURING TIMES OF MILK AND HONEY - but knocked it back!.

Whoops 2020 did you mean EXTEND? Sheez best check your own post before you criticize others.

 

[2020hindsight]

Whoops 2020 did you mean EXTEND? Sheez best check your own post before you criticize others.

noco , fair point, … oops lol -
but the following additional points are also relevant ...

a) thanks for clarifying that your word "childist" was indeed a typo.
I mean there are "ageist" tactics for instance, (racist, sexist, etc)
.. so I figured you'd used "childist" tactics intentionally .

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ageist
age•ism –noun 1. discrimination against persons of a certain age group.

b) you claimed "you were appalled" without a single example. Hence I would say you were inviting some counter-comment - with or without pedantry.

c) Since I have acknowledged my error, will you acknowledge that you have latched onto a minor error in my response to you, without acknowledging the point that on this particular thread at least, the reverse is true, i.e. Liberal supporters use the more offensive adjectives / criticism. ?

d) Fortunately (for my argument) Paul Keating has moved on lol.

e) PS (I add PS's in the time for double-checking) - Should you call me a socialist, I'll reject that - though perhaps , like your typo .. " childist vs childish " , I am socialish

 

[noco]

How come you barnacle Liberal voters are so frikkin blind. I do watch question time and there is plenty of banter and stupid name calling from the Liberal side of politics as well. 'Cardboard Kev' anyone? (no doubt that was just a bit of rollicking fun to you guys...)

FFS open your eyes and try to refrain from your worshipful commentary.

Cardboard Kev was well justified due to the fact that on one occassion he extended parliamentarians to sit on Fridays and then did not turn up himself.
He deserved what was dished out to him. He soon learnt his lesson!